Edward Snowden, the NSA source, is in Hong Kong!

[MineralMan]

He is not any of the Edward Snowdens who show up in Google searches and who are in the US.

[randome]

1. Leak and run! Leak and run!

I thought he said he didn't care about repercussions.

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[MineralMan]

4. The Guardian article reveals where he is.

He's been there, I guess, since the leaking started.

[treestar]

6. lol

Is there an extradition treaty with Hong Kong!!!!???

To Ecuador post haste!!!!

[randome]

14. I'm betting on an emergency conference right now between Pres. Chun-ying and Pres. de Kirchner...

...regarding the difficulties of removing stones from shoes.

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[MineralMan]

15. I'm sure there are lots of phone calls being made.

Mr. Snowden will be receiving visitors shortly, if they haven't already dropped by.

[randome]

16. He may be in disguise, though.

What with the red hood and all.



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[MineralMan]

18. I imagine the Hong Kong authorities keep an

eye on foreigners who are there. Still, I suppose he could be in hiding somewhere. I doubt it, though. I imagine he expects to be very thoroughly questioned. He took the step of allowing his identity to be disclosed. I don't know if he's smart enough to disappear, though.

[pnwmom]

20. Who's paying for his credit cards? n/t

[randome]

27. Intriguing question. If Greenwald or the Guardian is...

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[treestar]

30. The usual crowd is already committing themselves:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022978352

They were in love in less than 5 minutes.

[randome]

38. Some jilted lovers never give up searching for 'Mr./Ms. Right'.

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[MNBrewer]

36. You must not have watched the interview, then.

[randome]

37. Why would I trust anyone who works for the NSA?

I still haven't heard him specify what 'abuses' he witnessed. You would think he'd have something specific to talk about other than 'my country is evil'.

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[MNBrewer]

40. Wow, that's an amazingly odd thing to say.

And he didn't say "my country is evil". That's what you wanted to hear him say.

[Rex]

2. Really?

How could you possibly know that?

[MineralMan]

3. His location is specified in the Guardian article.

He's in Hong Kong. There are a number of others with the same name, and we've seen what happens when people go searching for people's names. His location is known, and I'm just posting it to forestall people finding the wrong person with that name.

[Rex]

7. Oh HA...thought you went through the phone book.

I was like...wow...you got a super secret spy cam in his trousers? Ya blowback could be dangerous for like named individuals.

[MineralMan]

9. The name was just posted on DU, but not his

location. So I went to the Guardian source and found that information. I thought someone should post it on DU, to prevent others with that name from being hassled, at least by DUers.

Others will probably not pay any attention. There are at least three Facebookers with that name. It's likely to be a problem for them. I've seen that happen before when some name is released.

[Bluenorthwest]

5. Greenwald has an interview with him in the Guardian, MM follows Greenwald ardently

nt

[MineralMan]

8. Actually, I found that out only after someone posted

the name of the source. I actually don't follow Greenwald at all, except to click through to links on DU. I clicked the link after reading that the source had revealed himself, and found that he was in Hong Kong. I posted to make sure people knew that, and didn't start looking at the many others with that name.

[Bluenorthwest]

17. It was a joke, based on the fact that this story is public knowledge and you are a known Greenwald

critic. And you are repeating his story. It's mildly amusing stuff.

[MineralMan]

19. OK. Nobody had posted the location on DU, so I posted it

to prevent confusion. Still, it's always nice to see that my posts are being read and answered, as always.

[FarCenter]

10. From the Guardian

In the three weeks since he arrived, he has been ensconced in a hotel room. "I've left the room maybe a total of three times during my entire stay," he said. It is a plush hotel and, what with eating meals in his room too, he has run up big bills.

He is deeply worried about being spied on. He lines the door of his hotel room with pillows to prevent eavesdropping. He puts a large red hood over his head and laptop when entering his passwords to prevent any hidden cameras from detecting them.

Also, not the sharpest knife in the drawer:

After that, he got his first job in an NSA facility, working as a security guard for one of the agency's covert facilities at the University of Maryland. From there, he went to the CIA, where he worked on IT security. His understanding of the internet and his talent for computer programming enabled him to rise fairly quickly for someone who lacked even a high school diploma.

By 2007, the CIA stationed him with diplomatic cover in Geneva, Switzerland. His responsibility for maintaining computer network security meant he had clearance to access a wide array of classified documents

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

Fanatic narcissist - Including paranoid features

An individual whose self-esteem was severely arrested during childhood, who usually displays major paranoid tendencies, and who holds on to an illusion of omnipotence. These people are fighting delusions of insignificance and lost value, and trying to re-establish their self-esteem through grandiose fantasies and self-reinforcement. When unable to gain recognition or support from others, they take on the role of a heroic or worshipped person with a grandiose mission.

[MineralMan]

11. My only point is that there are others with the same name.

They should not be bothered by anyone. That happens a lot when a name is released, without enough information to identify which person with that name is the person being discussed.

The one in the story is currently in Hong Kong. That's the only information I'm posting.

[FarCenter]

12. The Guardian has his picuture up, so that should limit mistaken idenities

Booz Allen probably discourages its employees from putting their CV on LinkedIn.

[MineralMan]

13. It should, assuming people click through to the

story. Many people will not. Truly, I would not want to have that name for the next week or so. I remember too many other cases where people got dragged into public view by mistake through overzealous, but stupid, Googling.

[Junkdrawer]

32. How does a guy like that get the clearance to have access to the documents he did?

[FarCenter]

35. From the Guardian article, it looks like he was probably a system adminstrator

He did not have a high school diploma. After the Army, he got a job in physical security with the CIA. Then got into IT system security.

He probably has a combination of on-the-job training and self taught skills around how to adminster security and maintain the operating sytem and LAN operations of Windows and/or Unix servers and workstations. He could have become extremely skilled, and therefore well paid, especially with his clearances, but I'd bet that his expertise is highly practical and narrow.

The documents were probably stored on the file servers he had access to. A flaw in many operating systems is that once you have administrator or root privileges, you also have the privileges of other users. An administrator should have access only to the commands, programs, and data needed to carry out the adminstration tasks.

Its almost parallel to script kiddie hackers who are self-taught about programming, operating systems, security, etc.

[Junkdrawer]

39. I have two contradictory theories now:

Both involve him having help.

I'm SURE we'll hear more.

[FarCenter]

42. Google Greenwald Poitras and either Snowden, Manning or Assange

Greenwald and Poitras are the common thread.

[warrior1]

21. who really believes he is in Hong Kong?

[MineralMan]

23. I do. I think he's gone public and will

soon be talking more. There are a number of people who are not him, though, but who have the same name. This post is just to point that out to would-be Google sleuths.

[HiPointDem]

22. and is he any relation to the snowdens connected to the british royals?

[MineralMan]

24. No idea.

So far, we don't know much of anything about him. We have his photo and his name, and a disclosed location. That's it.

[randome]

26. The hood! Don't forget the red hood!

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[HiPointDem]

41. ok. they spell it differently, so maybe not.

[kentuck]

25. Very interesting!

[DesMoinesDem]

28. When you google a persons name it tells you where they are currently located?

I've never seen this feature. He may currently be in Hong Kong, but he doesn't live in Hong Kong.

[FarCenter]

31. He was last in Hawaii

There are lots of Snowden's in eastern NC, near his home town of Elizabeth City. Bet their phones are ringing off the hook, with reporters wanting interviews.

[xchrom]

29. What. Ever. Nt

[cali]

33. and fuck those who are already trying to demonize Snowden

[WestStar]

34. I'm sure that's what this guy is saying

Because of MORONS with the "Google powers"



But, What. Ever.