Is NSA leaker the same Edward Snowden in Hawaii who is a Ron Paul supporter?

[pnwmom]

Who is paying for his "plush" hotel room in Hong Kong? How is he going to fund the rest of his life?

http://www.dailypolicyjournal.com/was-nsa-whistleblower-edward-snowden-a-ron-paul-supporter/

Evidence to that effect can be found in a contribution receipt report filed by the Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign Committee Inc., which shows a $250 contribution received from an Edward Snowden who also has a Hawaii address.

If this is indeed the same Edward Snowden who is behind the leaks reported by The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald over the course of the last few days, it would give some additional insight and context to what motivated him to come forward.


SNIP

[warrior1]

1. You just blew my mind

[Fumesucker]

3. I just blew milk all over my keyboard

Damn near choked.

[warrior1]

4. Ha

[treestar]

2. Maybe he saved up a lot on his job with a contractor

Funny how it will be OK for him to have been a corporate employee.

[warrior1]

5. It got awfully quiet in here

[LittleBlue]

6. Shameful thread. nt

[cali]

7. who the fuck cares? I'm sure little minds think that discredits him

and just how do YOU fucking know that his hotel room is plush?

[BeyondGeography]

102. It's Hong Kong

There's no middle class, nor is there a mid-priced tourism market, You're either at a four-star hotel in Central or on the Kowloon side of the harbor, or a fleabag like Chungking Mansion on Nathan Road. Helluva place; they used to have a sign that read, "WHEN there is a fire, descend this staircase."

[boston bean]

8. McCarthyism! It's for Democrats too, don't forget! nt

[Luminous Animal]

90. No shit.

[Rex]

9. /|/|

Really now!?!?! Oh my this is going to get interesting!


YOU DON"T SAY!?!

[RainDog]

10. LOL. a 250.00 dollar contribution to a libertarian from a computer geek?

wow.

never could've seen THAT ONE coming....

[boston bean]

19. adding... in his twenties. What are we going to banish all libertarians from the USofA now?

i don't agree with them much of the time, but they have their place in our democracy.

[FarCenter]

28. Wonder whether he was a Booz Allen employee?

The $200K job sounds more like contractor pay, especially for the type of work he seems to have been doing.

Plus he also worked for Dell in the last few years.

[RainDog]

35. fwiw, computer geeks are a large subset of libertarian party supporters

I was just laughing at the reality that a lot of libertarian party supporters may be found within the ranks of computer geeks and have probably contributed to the same.

...sort of like finding out that someone made a contribution to the Democratic Party who works for a non-profit trying to improve the lives of those with disadvantages.

[AnalystInParadise]

41. That is in line with contractor pay

I am one and he made more than I do, but that is in the ball park. Also living here in Hawaii most contractors get a Cost of Living Adjustment due to the expensive nature of living in paradise. It's funny he worked right down the road from me. I am more on the All source side though........

[MNBrewer]

11. What the HELL difference does that make?

Ad hominem much?

[FarCenter]

12. One narcissitic paranoid libertarian supporting another?

Edward Snowden fits the psychological profile of a tea bagger.

[former9thward]

79. The Smear Machine has received their marching orders.

[UTUSN]

96. Totally agree, and R#8 & K for the O.P.'s daring to pose an unpopular question.

(from another thread: )

*************QUOTE*************

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022979420
[font size=5]PRISM was an effective program and a good balance with civil liberties. Snowden should go to jail.[/font]

*************UNQUOTE*************

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

13. What is his motivation? He answers your questions right here (VIDEO)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

Fortunately for us Americans, their are those who are working on the inside willing to show the rest of us what is really going on.

psst... pass the word

[leveymg]

63. Before they jump to conclusions, people should read the article. This is what moved him to

do this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

He said it was during his CIA stint in Geneva that he thought for the first time about exposing government secrets. But, at the time, he chose not to for two reasons.

First, he said: "Most of the secrets the CIA has are about people, not machines and systems, so I didn't feel comfortable with disclosures that I thought could endanger anyone". Secondly, the election of Barack Obama in 2008 gave him hope that there would be real reforms, rendering disclosures unnecessary.

He left the CIA in 2009 in order to take his first job working for a private contractor that assigned him to a functioning NSA facility, stationed on a military base in Japan. It was then, he said, that he "watched as Obama advanced the very policies that I thought would be reined in", and as a result, "I got hardened."

The primary lesson from this experience was that "you can't wait around for someone else to act. I had been looking for leaders, but I realised that leadership is about being the first to act."

Over the next three years, he learned just how all-consuming the NSA's surveillance activities were, claiming "they are intent on making every conversation and every form of behaviour in the world known to them".

[Major Nikon]

93. So Obama getting elected gave him "hope", but he contributed to the Ron Paul campaign

[leveymg]

94. I've met plenty of people like that around DC.

It's not at all unusual.

[Major Nikon]

95. You've met people who sent Ron Paul $250, yet had hope for Obama?

Every hard core looneytarian I've ever known hated Obama, and if this is true it makes it hard to believe this guy is anything but a hard core looneytarian.

[leveymg]

103. Yes, in '08 there were many former GOP voters torn between the two.

There still are. I talked to 4000 voters in a key swing district in VA, a very purple state. The ones who expressed this aren't loons.

[Major Nikon]

106. If you say so

Ron Paul is a neoconfederate bigot. How anyone would get that a slavery lover would be a champion of liberty seems to fall well inside the borders of Looneyville.

Just sayin'

[struggle4progress]

112. "I didn't like Obama enough to vote for him, but now I'm really really angry at him

because I feel he did not live up to all the hope I invested in him!"

[Major Nikon]

116. Maybe his hope went to Obama, but his cash appears to have gone to Ron Paul

[ucrdem]

118. "He left the CIA in 2009 in order to take his first job working for a private contractor"

In other words, he left the Bushler CIA when Obama took office to work for an equally criminal private Bushler CIA. Whose existence I've suspected for a while but didn't really have confirmation of until now. So thanks for this.


p.s. the other post was in the wrong place, sorry.

[giftedgirl77]

14. His coming out article

describes Dick Cheny's biography sitting next to the bed.

Between that & supporting the Paul asylum , I say good day.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. Want to know why? How about reading his own words?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistleblower-surveillance

"I don't want public attention because I don't want the story to be about me. I want it to be about what the US government is doing."

[DevonRex]

16. Now Rand Paul is doing a campaign stunt

with this issue. Pretending to sue, etc. I'm sure it's in preparation for his presidential run in 2016.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

82. Good.

[DevonRex]

86. Haha. So you love Rand Paul now. That was tooo fast. nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

87. If you don't like the FISA law, change it, right? Isn't that what you & others have said?

Yes, Rand Paul is a shithead. Yes, Republicans in congress are guilty as sin too. And yes, Rand Paul is making a naked political play. But, at least it sounds like there's some political will to stop this, and raise a discussion of the issue. If it has to be a freaking 'bagger who does it for his own self-aggrandizing reasons, it's better than nothing. Many people here who have been defending this totalitarian spying program have sung the chorus, if you don't like the law, get it changed. Well, they should feel hopeful now, because this may be a vehicle to do exactly that. Obama really shouldn't have let a reptilian teabagger get in front of him on this.

So I'd be very interested in hearing why you plan to keep supporting a secret and totalitarian spy program.

[DevonRex]

89. I'm sure as hell smart enough not to support Rand Paul to change PRISM. nt

[DisgustipatedinCA]

91. Addressed in post. When you're dodging, you're not doing it right. Bye.

[deminks]

17. Has he picked who will play him in the movie?

nt

[cali]

20. projection, dear. shows us how your mind works.

[B2G]

18. And so what if he did?

Libertarians have some very valid points in regards to government intrusion into our lives.

How does who he voted for make an ounce of difference? The reason this shit keeps happening is because we constantly divide ourselves over party affiliation, allowing our masters to run rough-shod over us. It's a great distraction really.

But do go on...

[baldguy]

42. Because it calls into question his motives & his characterization of the program.

There is a massive difference between a run-of-the-mill libertarian, who might recognize some legitimate concerns of civil liberties vs. national security, and a coocoo-cloudlander Randian Objectivist, who supports & is supported by the Drs Paul, and who views the exercise of any govt authority or any govt responsibility - legitimate or not, intentional or not, imaginary or not - as a direct physical assault on their person.

He's supposedly worried about the govt gathering metadata on our phone calls & reading our emails. But says nothing about multinational corporations doing the exact same thing.

If his objective is to destroy the govt - and make no mistake, that's exactly what Randians want to do - what better way than to allow the admittedly limited & imperfect security apparatus that helps protect it (and us, BTW) to be dismantled?

[B2G]

49. thanks for laying out the demonization game plan

Now I know what to expect from the operatives.

[leeroysphitz]

83. Paid operatives?

[friendly_iconoclast]

76. Contrast this to what *you* were saying during the Bush regime:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3031131#3032492

baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:31 PM
Response to Original message
25. People are harassed, investigated & arrested for their political beliefs.

Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 09:34 PM by baldguy
Held anonymously without charge, trial, or communication with the outside world.

The President's press secretary says that people should watch what they say, or else - and the press is too afraid to say anything.

People are prevented from traveling freely because they are on a gov't list.

During his most recent inauguration, Bush faced the largest number of protesters at such an event in 35 years. People were herded into cages, tear gassed en masse, and arrested for the crime of exercising their 1st Amendment rights.

What do you think?

Has your position evolved, or is this sort of intrusion acceptable under 'one of our guys'?

[baldguy]

78. Who is Obama "holding anonymously without charge, trial, or communication with the outside world".?

Who are Obama's political prisoners? Anyone we're holding now are leftovers from the Bush Regime that Congress won't let him release.

And what does this have to do with NSA spying, anyway?

[BlueCaliDem]

97. Lots of Libertarians-Rand-Ron-Paul operatives at DU these days, baldguy.

And they won't listen to anything or anyone no matter the facts. Obama is a dictator, doncha know? Glenn Greenwald is a true Liberal, and Ron and Rand Paul are the messiahs who never lie or do anything that doesn't promote their political careers. I believe these "DUers" are horribly lost.

[flamingdem]

98. They appeared during the Occupy days

on DU as well.

[Bobbie Jo]

113. ^^this^^

[DesMoinesDem]

21. That would make sense.

[Marr]

22. This is just... embarrassing.

The excuses and attempts at distraction I've seen here over the last few days has me honestly *hoping* the apologists are being paid for their efforts. It's actually depressing to me to think of people trying so hard to excuse such violations of their own rights, purely out of loyalty to a politician.

[Mojorabbit]

29. Same here. It has been an eye opener for sure. sad isn't it? nt

[suffragette]

31. + 1,000 Marr

[graham4anything]

33. This is the same as Tom DeLay sening in people to disrupt the 2000 recount if the above is correct

This could go down as the biggest dirty trick of all time

(the thing that always got me about the Paul family, is the location of the district of Ron to Tom DeLay, It was parallel to DeLay
and the thought that if the Paul's were not part of the republican party, he would have been primaried out years and years ago.

[AnalystInParadise]

38. ^^^This

I have made a lot of enemies in a short time here because I called Manning a traitor, and I still stand by that. I am a retired Army Analyst same MOS as Manning and I stand by my opinion on that one.

HOWEVER

This guy is a freaking hero because he exposed real crimes and real threats to our civil liberties and knew exactly what he was releasing. Watching some people here defend the destruction of the civil liberties has been almost as terrifying as this program. Line up like good little Germans and do whatever your government tells you to do. You were born free, as I was born free and now more than ever before our birth right is almost gone. I won't say President Obama (my President and a man I voted for twice is worse than Bush, but he is almost equal to him at this point). And yes for those who are just itching to alert, I am still a Democrat and I will still work my ass off for my party, but I also won't be a part of this madness that excuses collection on American citizens. It seems to have started under Bush, but I don't see my guy doing anything to stop it.

[LeftInTX]

64. I've got one question:

Why didn't he go directly to Iceland?
Why is he in Hong Kong when he says he wants to go to Iceland?

Kinda makes me nervous that he went to China.
I don't really care about the Ron Paul stuff.

[AnalystInParadise]

66. Was in Hawaii

very easy to get to Hong Kong. Iceland is very difficult to get to from Hawaii and most likely would have had to go through Washington D.C. to get there. I know he could have gone through NYC also, but the point is that it is very easy to go to Hong Kong from here. I might have gone the same route if I was in his shoes. Anything that keeps me as far away from Washington D.C. as possible is a good thing in a situation like this.

[LeftInTX]

73. If he had the FISA warrant on his computer, I guess this makes sense.

I don't travel much and have no idea if his computer could be searched if he went through NYC. I kinda didn't think airport security (TSA or whatever) routinely does this, but since he had a security clearance and was going on an international flight, it might be a different scenario.

[AnalystInParadise]

80. Also he had no way of knowing

what the government did and did not know about him and his plans to leak this information. Why go to the heart of the problem if you can go somewhere else. Any domestic flight to Iceland would have taken him to NYC, or D.C. WAY too close to the flagpole. Besides many, many contractors in Hawaii go to East Asia for vacation all the time, no suspicions would be raised. Hell I have been to Thailand and the Philippines in the year I have worked out here in Hawaii.

[DirkGently]

70. It's pathetic and disgusting.

[leftstreet]

71. +1 Let's hope they're also getting dental with that n/t

[graham4anything]

24. Wow, if this is true, Rand Paul SHOULD BE IMPEACHED from his senate seat.

Rand Paul should do the honorable thing and resign immediately if this is true.

[LondonReign2]

107. Rand Paul should be impeached because someone contributed $250 to his campaign?

You're really firing on all cylinders today g4a

[Berlum]

25. This whole NSA thing got RepubliStank all over it

[DirkGently]

72. Right. Because they hates them some spying programs!

Please. They're Bush's programs. What kind of thought doughnut does it require to think the inventors of this insidious nonsense want it exposed?

[whatchamacallit]

26. So it begins...

[AnalystInParadise]

27. I don't care

if he gave 500 dollars to Chairman Mao's ghost. This is potentially the biggest scandal in our lifetime. Bigger than Watergate, Watergate was spying on a political party. This is spying on the entire citizenry of this country. And I am no shrinking violet on this subject. I have been incredibly harsh on Bradley Manning calling him a traitor, because he is one. This guy however is a hero, and this guy has exposed real crimes. And it is fucking embarrassing watching Liberals, Democrats, Progressives whatever title you want to call yourselves support tyranny. Spin it however you want, this is tyranny. And if you support it, that is your right, but enjoy being a slave.

[villager]

30. "Is Edward Snowden now, or has he ever been....!?"

[Life Long Dem]

32. Yep

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden

[kenny blankenship]

34. Is he now or has he ever been a member of the Communist Party?!?

Do you ever think what you SOUND like?

[Monkie]

120. love this post! n/t

[ElizabethWarren2016]

36. Ron Paul is a lot better than Barack Obama on a lot of civil liberties issues.

This, the War on Drugs, etc.

[pnwmom]

39. Not if you're a woman, or a minority, or LGBT or a union member.

I guess if you're a white non-union male . . .

http://www.fightbacknews.org/2012/1/28/ron-paul-no-friend-99

SNIP

It gets worse. Paul states that he’s against the Civil Rights Act. The Civil Rights Act was one of the greatest victories in the struggle for equality for African-American, Chicano, Asian American and other oppressed nationalities. While it is true that all sorts of discrimination and inequity still exist, it is also a fact that the 1964 Civil Rights Act provided the legal framework that ended Jim Crow - including outlawing separate and unequal schools, banning employment discrimination against oppressed nationalities and women, and desegregating restaurants, buses, and hotels. But Ron Paul says it “destroyed privacy” - meaning white business owners should be able to discriminate against African-Americans and others, in the ‘privacy’ of their own businesses.

Ron Paul's views on immigration are sure to appeal to the worst sort of racist. Paul is against any sort of legalization that would fix the problem, even for immigrants who have been in the country for decades. Paul favors tougher enforcement of immigration laws, breaking up families and expelling hardworking people. He even favors eliminating birth right citizenship, which was written into the 14th Amendment to the Constitution in order to guarantee rights to African Americans. This means children born in the U.S. would not automatically be citizens, which was a racist demand by the anti-Chinese movement in the 1880s and is still pushed by those opposed to immigration from Mexico and Central America today. Ron Paul places the blame for what he sees as the “immigration problem” on the U.S. "welfare state,” instead of a system that destroys the economies of other countries and exploits low cost labor. Ron Paul’s view flies in the face of the obvious fact that immigrants are among the most hardworking people in the United States. Immigrants often do the most unpleasant, most dangerous and lowest paid jobs in the U.S. and deserve full equality and legalization.

Ron Paul's newsletters were just as offensive to the GLBTQ community. A news article bearing his name said: “Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities.” Despite claiming to be for civil liberties, his current positions on gay rights are not much better. In 2005, Ron Paul sponsored a bill called the “We the People Act”, to prevent federal courts from enforcing any civil rights claim relating to sexuality. Ron Paul also supported the Federal Defense of Marriage Act. Until this law was passed in 1996, a marriage that was carried out in one state was valid in any other state. But under this law, that is not true for marriages between two people of the same sex.

On women's rights, Ron Paul's record is also dismal. While claiming to stand for individual freedoms, Paul would take away a woman’s right to choose. Ron Paul would undo Roe v. Wade and allow states to make abortion illegal again. Paul also says there should be no legal protection against sexual harassment at work, opening the door for an employer to coerce or intimidate an employee to have sex with him or lose their job.

[AnalystInParadise]

43. How does the War on Drugs

affect gender? This should be good.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

46. It affects race, that's fer sure.

But if Obama's waging the war, that's okely dokely!

[pnwmom]

47. He has many other positions that affect women, minorities, LGBT and union members.

He opposes the Civil rights act, for example. He opposes women's right to choose, and anti-discrimination laws.

[AnalystInParadise]

52. I am asking about the Drug War

you obfuscate with other shit no one asked about. Nice tactic.

[pnwmom]

57. The drug war is a single issue.

Ron Paul is the right-winger politician for pro-drug legalization people.

But his economic policy is the same as any Rethug.

[AnalystInParadise]

59. And our questions

are on civil liberties issues, of which the war on drugs is an issue on that list of issues. So again, how does the war on drugs affect gender and thus make President Obama better on all civil liberties issues?

This is very entertaining watching you contort yourself into such pretzel logic

[pnwmom]

60. Pro-drug legalization is a small issue compared to the rights of women

to control their own bodies and the rights of all humans to be free from discrimination in the workplace.

[AnalystInParadise]

62. Ah.....

so no you will not be honest. Ok I just wanted to be sure. You will spin into infinity rather than be consistent or honest, I understand now.

[rastaone]

77. Totally irreleveant

I bet Hitler was better than Obama in some subject. I heard he was big on the arts. Hmmm

[AnalystInParadise]

85. LOL

But we aren't talking about Hitler, a fascist dictator. We are talking about an American President (and man I voted for) and an American Senator (who I also respect for his stance on drones and drugs) And respecting him for those stances in no way shape or form, makes me any less committed to electing Democrats or supporting Democrats.

The point is that some people will stretch into any shape to defend their guy, even when he is dead wrong.

[MNBrewer]

45. Are only males having their phone records trolled by the NSA?

Interesting. How nice of the President to be better on civil liberties issues for women.

[pnwmom]

48. The right to control our own bodies is an essential civil liberty for women

that Ron and Rand Paul would deny.

And their view of civil liberties protects employers who want to discriminate against women and other groups.

[MNBrewer]

50. Not just for women

Are women the only people who need the right to control their own bodies??

So, the Pauls are better on SOME issues of civil liberties and the Obamas are better on other issues of civil liberties.

[pnwmom]

51. Ron Paul is in favor of men controlling their own bodies -- just not women. n/t

[MNBrewer]

54. where has he said that?

Is he against forced circumcision or something?

[AnalystInParadise]

55. So then it is true

that President Obama is better on some civil liberties issues and the Paul's are better on other civil liberties issues? Or are you going to stick with your current tactic and ignore any facts to the contrary?

[boston bean]

56. Well, hell. I voted for Obama, what does that make me?

A person who invites infringements on my 4th amendment rights? yeah, I know bush started them, but Obama continued them obviously.

You cannot extrapolate that this guy is a rabid anti choicer because he gave to Ron Paul in 2008.

I can't stand libertarians on most social issues, I do however, agree with them sometimes on government intrusions. What the hell kind of people do you think give money to the ACLU.

[geek tragedy]

58. Only heterosexual men. nt

[graham4anything]

108. Ron and Rand Paul are in 2013 the John Birch society. More need not be said.

what an amazing post you wrote here, simply amazing.

If I am not mistaken the SOP of this site specifically states NO PAULites are welcome here.

[Bobbie Jo]

114. There you have it, folks.

Explains much of the absolute nonsense that passes for "criticism"'around here.

[JTFrog]

121. Fuck Ron Paul. n/t

[think]

37. Yep, it's all a Libertarian publicity stunt

[WorseBeforeBetter]

44. "Impeach RAND Paul!"

is right.

[Logical]

40. I HEARD HE FUCKING SMOKED POT ALSO! NO SHIT. DRUGS!!!!!! n-t

[G_j]

53. who cares?

hilarious post though..

[Warpy]

61. Hardly.

He's former CIA (so we've been told) and his web presence for casual searchers is zero.

There is one with the same name and close to the same age who has been involved in telecomm companies, but that one doesn't appear to be the right one, either.

This is just something we're going to have to wait and see how it develops.

All I know now is what we see is not what we're actually getting.

[AnalystInParadise]

65. Many intel people

that know what the capabilities are make it very difficult to find them on the internet. Some people especially in the field of Cyber Intelligence erase their digital footprints completely because they know what is going on.

[nebenaube]

67. or you merely see what you are allowed to see...

Which is why this program fails from the onset...

[RobinA]

117. Too Bad

Petraus seems not to have had the same ability.

[DirkGently]

68. Shame on you. (nt)

[ananda]

69. Darrell Issa should support him for the rest of his life.

Well, just sayin ....

[TheKentuckian]

74. Who the fuck cares? How desperate is it to try character assasination on someone

who reported a program that isn't only not disputed but defended?

"None of this matters cause...RON PAUL!...Quick look over there" is not a valid answer here.

[appleannie1]

75. And now Rand Paul wants to file a class action suit. Go figure. This has been going on since 2002.

Now all of a sudden it is such a terrible thing. Somehow I doubt that the loved ones of 9-11 victims or the survivors of the Boston attack think it is such a terrible thing.

[Maven]

81. How pathetic.

[dipsydoodle]

84. The headline is no more than a question.

So - is the answer yes or no ?

[uponit7771]

88. ***NSA LEAKERS COMPANY, BOOZ ALLEN, OWNED BY CARLYLE GROUP***

[AnalystInParadise]

105. Peddling this crap

on multiple threads now?

Booz Allen made 6 billion for CG last year.....why would they risk all that money to give President Obama a black eye......Be serious please

[RetroLounge]

92. Wow, this is one of the most pathetic things I've seen here on DU.

One of many, and coincidentally, you were OP in several.



RL

[woo me with science]

99. [phone]

[Bonobo]

100. You would have attacked him for his political support

whether he was a Libertarian or a Republican.

It is simply irrelevant to the act itself, but I will hasten to point out that if he IS a Paul supporter, it is easy to see why. He has probably seen that both Dems and Repubs are not that far apart on issues like this NSA spying thing.

In that he is demonstrably correct.

[hughee99]

101. Ah, so the information he leaked is not true then?

Thank god! I was concerned because between the WH and others telling me that this was a matter of national security and shouldn't have just been leaked, and also telling me this is "old news" that was known for years, I thought they were discussing it as if it was true information. I'm glad to see that this guy donated $250 to Ron Paul, because now I can be sure that none of it is true.

[uponit7771]

104. NO IT WAS NOT, Buncha bullshit and Greenwald, another winger, KNOWS it!!

[GeorgeGist]

109. Shoot the messengers.

[JoeyT]

110. Do you currently own or know someone that currently owns a Ron Paul bumper sticker? n/t

[Skittles]

111. STOP IT JOEYT

[tiffany_willis]

115. YIKES!

That explains a lot.

[ucrdem]

119. Ron Paul + Carlyle = BFEE operative

Well well well. So the hidden hand is revealed at last. Thanks pnwmom, uponit7771, and everyone else with enough good sense not to drink the tea.



p.s. what a surprise to find Goldenboy Glenn and the Guardian in the Texas tent. So much for their fake leftist cred.


K/R, bookmarking.

[SomethingFishy]

122. No but he is the same one who barbecues puppies

on his stainless steel grill while drinking the blood of virgins out of a an ivory glass made from an elephants trunk.


Hangin's too good for him... burnin's too good for him.. he should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!

[pnwmom]

123. No, he's the one who's been giving classified info to the Chinese newspaper

and will soon, no doubt, be showing it to the government there.