Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:44 PM Jun 2013

Can Edward Snowden prove he didn't

rape and murder a young girl in 1990?

It's a legitimate issue that should be vetted.

I'm not saying this should influence your opinion on the NSA leak but I'm just asking the question.

What is he hiding?

32 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Can Edward Snowden prove he didn't (Original Post) Capt. Obvious Jun 2013 OP
I thought Glenn Beck did that, not Snowden.. Mr. David Jun 2013 #1
I have seen no evidence that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #13
It's Joe Scarborough...that dead girl in his office where he didn't run for Congress Again! KoKo Jun 2013 #26
I heard his preacher has said some radical things ... DirkGently Jun 2013 #2
"Preachers" have Huge Influence.....Armageddon is coming! It's actually HERE! KoKo Jun 2013 #27
He would have been 9 or 10 year old. Or, is that the point? leveymg Jun 2013 #3
Or the Lindbergh kidnapping Capt. Obvious Jun 2013 #4
So are you implying legitimate questions should not be asked about him? I am not talking about your still_one Jun 2013 #5
Are you saying this is not a legitimate issue? Capt. Obvious Jun 2013 #11
DOB: June 21st, 1983 - he was seven years old in 1990. Divernan Jun 2013 #6
Yes, and six years old in 1989 during the Tiananmen Square protests. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #10
Interesting reorg Jun 2013 #14
Hong Kong is part of China, the same China that killed Tienanmen Square protesters. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #16
perhaps he chose Hong Kong instead of Shanghai reorg Jun 2013 #17
OFFS, even Snowden now realizes he was stupid about Hong Kong. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #18
The safeguards in the extradition treaty with respect to political offences reorg Jun 2013 #19
China reports uptick in Rape of Pit Bulls...that's why he sought Refuge there... KoKo Jun 2013 #22
true that reorg Jun 2013 #29
Well, Snowden couldn't have sought refuge in Hong Kong because he objects to surveillance... SunSeeker Jun 2013 #32
Just rape and murder? LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #7
I hear that he was in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. n/t QC Jun 2013 #8
I hear that he was in Dallas and was the "Umbrella Man" KoKo Jun 2013 #23
Can he prove he didn't wear a condom? n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #9
He wore it and it was "torn" and his partner kept it and carried it to the Police! KoKo Jun 2013 #24
we need more information. Whisp Jun 2013 #12
I see what you did there bigtree Jun 2013 #15
i heard he was personally responsible for faking the moon landing too! n/t Monkie Jun 2013 #20
Wasn't there a post here that he "Raped a Pit Bull?" Devastating! KoKo Jun 2013 #21
There is a rumor he once ate a sea bass with Al Gore. DirkGently Jun 2013 #25
OMG...thought you were Lying...but..I GOOGLED IT..and IT's TRUE! KoKo Jun 2013 #28
Incredible VENT POST...it was helpful..I think for many of us. KoKo Jun 2013 #30
I thought we had to prove that he did. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #31
 

Mr. David

(535 posts)
1. I thought Glenn Beck did that, not Snowden..
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:46 PM
Jun 2013

but I could be wrong as I heard that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
26. It's Joe Scarborough...that dead girl in his office where he didn't run for Congress Again!
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:43 PM
Jun 2013

Maybe the poster confused the two...

Don't know about Glenn Beck, though. I've never watched that show...and don't really know what he's about.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
2. I heard his preacher has said some radical things ...
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:49 PM
Jun 2013

... and he once worked with a former bomber of empty buildings.

All adds to up to "Trust the NSA" if you ask me.









KoKo

(84,711 posts)
27. "Preachers" have Huge Influence.....Armageddon is coming! It's actually HERE!
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:47 PM
Jun 2013

"THEY" are going after our TELECOMS, OUR INTERNETS, our FOX NEWS..

Them Leftists are MORANS! Their TERRAISTS Activities are BRINING DOWN OUR AMURICA...and I CAINT STAND IT!

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. He would have been 9 or 10 year old. Or, is that the point?
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:51 PM
Jun 2013

Can he prove he wasn't the Captain of the U-boat that sank the Lusitania?

still_one

(92,303 posts)
5. So are you implying legitimate questions should not be asked about him? I am not talking about your
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:53 PM
Jun 2013

not so clever remark about rape

I am talking about real flaws in his story

We should not take anyone or a government view on anything without full evaluation

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
11. Are you saying this is not a legitimate issue?
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 03:44 PM
Jun 2013

This may be more legitimate than his dropping out of high school.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
6. DOB: June 21st, 1983 - he was seven years old in 1990.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 02:55 PM
Jun 2013

You forgot the sarcasm icon - and the true believers/apologists who don't sully their "minds" with pesky facts will spread this falsehood far and wide.

The Guardian. Retrieved 10 June 2013. "The army did confirm Snowden's date of birth: June 21, 1983."

SunSeeker

(51,607 posts)
10. Yes, and six years old in 1989 during the Tiananmen Square protests.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 03:22 PM
Jun 2013

Maybe that is why he stupidly said that "Hong Kong has a strong tradition of free speech."

reorg

(3,317 posts)
14. Interesting
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 04:40 PM
Jun 2013

I was under the impression that Hong Kong was still under British rule in 1989.

Wikipedia stupidly(?) states that:

Hong Kong law provides for freedom of speech and press, and the government generally respects these rights in practice. Freedom of expression is well protected by the Hong Kong Bill of Rights.

SunSeeker

(51,607 posts)
16. Hong Kong is part of China, the same China that killed Tienanmen Square protesters.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 04:54 PM
Jun 2013

Way to miss the point. Even before Hong Kong switched over from British rule, it was no free speech mecca. It is simply wrong to claim, as Snowden does, that Hong Kong has a praiseworthy "tradition of free speech," even though it is part of China and has been ruled by the authoritarian Chinese government for decades now, the same government that committed the Tienanmen Square atrocity.

reorg

(3,317 posts)
17. perhaps he chose Hong Kong instead of Shanghai
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jun 2013

because it is a "Special Administrative Region" and "has a different political system from mainland China" which provides "constitutional protection on various fundamental human rights and freedoms. Specifically, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights is given a constitutional status through the basic laws."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong#Human_rights
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Hong_Kong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_country,_two_systems

SunSeeker

(51,607 posts)
18. OFFS, even Snowden now realizes he was stupid about Hong Kong.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:02 PM
Jun 2013

He has skedaddled from his fancy hotel room in Hong Kong, hot on the heels of the Chinese government hinting they would extradite him.

“He won’t find Hong Kong a safe harbor,” Ms. Ip said. “Those agreements have been enforced for more than 10 years. If the U.S. submits a request, we would act in accordance with the law.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/11/world/asia/edward-snowden-hong-kong-extradition.html?_r=0

reorg

(3,317 posts)
19. The safeguards in the extradition treaty with respect to political offences
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:17 PM
Jun 2013

are similar to those in the extradition treaties with European countries. You may remember that all the Assange haters here have been screaming at the top of their lungs that he'd be safe in Sweden because they would never extradite him, due to the fact that the alleged offense was political in nature. The extradition treaty with Hong Kong makes the same exception. In addition, China could object to any extradition from Hong Kong if they chose to do so:

China does not have an extradition treaty with the United States.

According to notes on the treaty submitted to the US Senate, the Hong Kong negotiators had insisted on including clauses making it easily possible to deny extradition to the US, arguing that such a clause was essential in obtaining mainland Chinese approval for the treaty.

As such, article 3 of the treaty allows the Chinese government to refuse surrendering a person if it thought the surrender "relates to (its) defense, foreign affairs or essential public interest or policy".

Hong Kong can also refuse if the city or the mainland have begun proceedings for the prosecution of that person. Hong Kong can reject an application if the city felt that the request was "politically motivated" or that Snowden would be prosecuted for his political opinions.

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1257639/treaty-gives-hong-kong-option-reject-snowden-extradition-us

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
22. China reports uptick in Rape of Pit Bulls...that's why he sought Refuge there...
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:25 PM
Jun 2013

He was after Choice Pit Bulls to Rape.... Sheesh...Poster posts without link to cast "seeds of evil weeds" and thinks we here are clueless.

SunSeeker

(51,607 posts)
32. Well, Snowden couldn't have sought refuge in Hong Kong because he objects to surveillance...
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 04:22 PM
Jun 2013

Hong Kong has some of the most expansive civilian surveillance laws in the world.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/06/world/asia/06cnd-hong.html?_r=1&

So much for Snowden's stupid praise of Hong Kong's "strong tradition of free speech." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/10/edward-snowden-basic-liberties_n_3414824.html

And looks like the only country that appears to be entertaining the idea of giving him asylum is Russia, where you can't fart without Putin knowing about it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/11/edward-snowden-russia-asylum_n_3420576.html

Are those enough links for you?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
24. He wore it and it was "torn" and his partner kept it and carried it to the Police!
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:36 PM
Jun 2013

There was semen DNA in it...and she preserved it in her freezer!

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
12. we need more information.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jun 2013

I am going to take the word of President Obama over Glen Greenward's or this Snowden guy. Most likely like all the bagger hatched 'scandals' against the President for all these years, and especially now that he is in his last term this one too will fizzle out to be concocted of half lies and half truths.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
25. There is a rumor he once ate a sea bass with Al Gore.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:40 PM
Jun 2013

Obviously the whole "vast domestic spying" thing is therefore balderdash.





KoKo

(84,711 posts)
28. OMG...thought you were Lying...but..I GOOGLED IT..and IT's TRUE!
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:52 PM
Jun 2013

Can you imagine...breaking "SeaBass Flesh" with AL GORE! He must have done TWEETS to FAUX News about that One! It SPREAD ALL OVER THE INTERNETS!

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Can Edward Snowden prove ...