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Revealed: Hundreds of words to avoid using online if you don't want the government spying on you (Original Post) Generic Other Jun 2013 OP
So we can only "safely" speak of inane celebrities in all their 'glorious' superficiality.... hlthe2b Jun 2013 #1
I keep checking to see if I should shut up Generic Other Jun 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Jun 2013 #29
Yes, unless they have listeria Renew Deal Jun 2013 #31
Phew! I see the words "Britney," "Lindsay," and "Paris Hilton" didn't make the list. reformist2 Jun 2013 #2
Just don't call them a "trainwreck" Generic Other Jun 2013 #13
whew. "tomato" still seems to be OK NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #3
Depends on how you pronounce it Generic Other Jun 2013 #15
Let's call the whole thing off! NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #19
For now, Smilo Jun 2013 #16
Tomato is OK as long as it's not within three words of "bacteria." Renew Deal Jun 2013 #33
For a more complete list please see Savannahmann Jun 2013 #4
doubleplusfunny! Generic Other Jun 2013 #8
wouldn't real terrorists or spies use codewords? arely staircase Jun 2013 #5
I would think so. HappyMe Jun 2013 #14
You mean like, "The tomato is in the soup"? Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #20
The carrots are in the pig. hunter Jun 2013 #25
The weather looks like 27C in Amsterdam, 26C in Budapest, 17C in Nuremberg, 14C in Cuba, 10C in Pau arely staircase Jun 2013 #26
The chare is agenst the wall! Dash87 Jun 2013 #51
like that moose and goose quote that police chief read on air Generic Other Jun 2013 #28
missed that, could you post? arely staircase Jun 2013 #32
I am sorry that was confusing! LOL Generic Other Jun 2013 #44
Ixnay on the codesay Renew Deal Jun 2013 #35
And if you avoid using any of these words, that will be suspicious, too. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #7
Oh boy! Are you in trouble now. longship Jun 2013 #9
How can there be a "bad word" list DontTreadOnMe Jun 2013 #10
Maybe the terrorists can all learn to speak and write Klingon. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #11
Or sinply use UK slang dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #21
It had a whole different meaning for OWS Generic Other Jun 2013 #30
Different kettle dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #38
Interesting Generic Other Jun 2013 #45
an english friend once tried to explain cockney rhyming slang to me arely staircase Jun 2013 #36
Non exhaustive list here dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #49
Try and understand this dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #64
Well they have that article and this thread, thanks to image recognition. onehandle Jun 2013 #12
Then they know we don't approve Generic Other Jun 2013 #40
al capone...... any spelling ? dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #17
Are they trying to find his real vault? Dash87 Jun 2013 #58
This appears to be about media/news reports, not emails and phone calls, etc arcane1 Jun 2013 #18
Interesting story... TlalocW Jun 2013 #22
Are you saying that if I send an email with those words the government will send the feds? tridim Jun 2013 #23
looks like post 22 is saying that Generic Other Jun 2013 #43
They probably won't send the feds on the first offense. They don't have the manpower totodeinhere Jun 2013 #78
So you're saying that in this "police state" all of my emails are sniffed for keywords... tridim Jun 2013 #81
The parallels are obvious. The supporters of our surveillance totodeinhere Jun 2013 #83
So no link. Thanks. tridim Jun 2013 #84
No, you can Google the PRISM the program and get thousands of hits. totodeinhere Jun 2013 #86
They are spying on you whether you use these words or not. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #24
Everybody needs to use these words, and frequently ... Auggie Jun 2013 #27
Have they cracked igpay atinlay yet? NightWatcher Jun 2013 #34
They had the high school drop-out working on it Generic Other Jun 2013 #46
Well...i think it is safe to assume everyone on DU is under surveillance davidn3600 Jun 2013 #37
I should think they would have added pressure cooker. Frustratedlady Jun 2013 #39
I am sure it's on their list and now you just said it. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #47
Help? Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #41
I had subway for lunch! Dash87 Jun 2013 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #42
What did they do to Kenny? Generic Other Jun 2013 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Dash87 Jun 2013 #50
I'm definitely being watched then. Jamastiene Jun 2013 #52
Because you might be blaming an oil company Generic Other Jun 2013 #69
I was going to ship a bin laden with fresh fruit, but not now. Orrex Jun 2013 #53
Dammit! LadyHawkAZ Jun 2013 #54
How about the government should quit spying on us. Apophis Jun 2013 #55
People who play video games must be constantly setting off their "alarms." nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #57
Wow, I must be real scary nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #59
Then it's safe to assume that all of us are being watched apples and oranges Jun 2013 #60
There were only 7 you couldn't use on TV. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #61
So if you're in bed with flu dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #62
Not Flo! Generic Other Jun 2013 #68
.... and don't write your emails in Farsi JPZenger Jun 2013 #63
Maybe it's time to start communicating via .gifs and .jpgs Matariki Jun 2013 #65
Jefferson and Madison speak to us. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #66
I'll take one from Column A, two from Column B, and one from Column C. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2013 #67
George Carlin had it easy, BarbaRosa Jun 2013 #70
Uh oh, I'm in trouble on several counts. William769 Jun 2013 #71
This list is utter bullshit. So is the Daily Mail. zonkers Jun 2013 #72
Well a terraist who can't spell felix_numinous Jun 2013 #73
They anticipate the bad spelling on google Generic Other Jun 2013 #74
Good point felix_numinous Jun 2013 #75
I guess we're all in trouble... The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2013 #76
It has got to the point where we have to watch what we say in fear of the totodeinhere Jun 2013 #77
Buffy, bridge is cancelled because Angel has flu symptoms! Shrike47 Jun 2013 #79
Scary words SamKnause Jun 2013 #80
With all due respect: Fuck the government... JackRiddler Jun 2013 #82
I'm a writer, so I use and/or look-up most of these. WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #85
that would bring up another issue treestar Jun 2013 #87
Too late. I can't undo what's already done. Quantess Jun 2013 #88

Response to Generic Other (Reply #6)

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
13. Just don't call them a "trainwreck"
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:57 PM
Jun 2013

Actually that wasn't on the list. Too many celebs in rehab would overwhelm even the NSA.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
28. like that moose and goose quote that police chief read on air
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:13 PM
Jun 2013

before they found the shooters in DC sleeping at a gas station?

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
44. I am sorry that was confusing! LOL
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:32 PM
Jun 2013

I misremembered. In fact, a Chief Moose was forced to read cryptic messages from the DC Snipers: 'We have caught the sniper like a duck in a noose'. After he read this one, the snipers were captured sleeping at a gas station.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltway_sniper_attacks

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
10. How can there be a "bad word" list
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jun 2013

I keep hearing that EVERYTHING is being recorded. And if EVERYTHING is recorded, how can they be targeting every single email with a "bad word".

This is just bullshit. More faux outrage to make you scared and paranoid. Its seems to work well on the American public. We can be scared to believe anything... even be scared enough to go to war!

This is a prime example of how easily the public is being manipulated.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
38. Different kettle
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:19 PM
Jun 2013

which describes a shape. Origin of what I said is thought to be "a watched kettle never boils"............its old criminal slang.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
49. Non exhaustive list here
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:38 PM
Jun 2013
http://www.thornton-cleveleys.co.uk/cockney.htm

Inevitable problems arise for occasional users where expressions have been abbreviated / reduced to a single word. For example butchers hook for look reduced to just butchers long ways back leaving the expression for "give us a look" as "give us a butchers".........actually sounds like gissa butchers.

Other oddities occur with context. Pony and trap did mean crap but these days pony simply means rubbish.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
12. Well they have that article and this thread, thanks to image recognition.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 01:56 PM
Jun 2013

Which converts bitmapped text to real text.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
40. Then they know we don't approve
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:21 PM
Jun 2013

of this kind of data collection. I envision my file is mostly full of all the products I have purchased online and a longer list of all the products I am likely to purchase in the future. But somewhere deep in my cyber DNA, beyond the obvious records lie the holy grail -- my high school records -- the ones that have been following me for life...

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
58. Are they trying to find his real vault?
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:52 PM
Jun 2013

I knew it. They just sent Geraldo to a fake one. Obvious CIA op!

Possibly the chair incident too. CIA hitman!?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
18. This appears to be about media/news reports, not emails and phone calls, etc
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:02 PM
Jun 2013

Though I admittedly didn't read the entire document. Besides, the smart thing to do, if this was a list of online bad words, would be to use every single one of them, every single time you write an email.


http://www.scribd.com/doc/82701103/Analyst-Desktop-Binder-REDACTED

TlalocW

(15,388 posts)
22. Interesting story...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jun 2013

I was friends with a guy who was a math and computer genius. When the internet was just starting to proliferate in the mid-90s, he had been hacking for quite a while. He found... not sure what you want to call it... a hub or location that he couldn't figure out what it was, but he guessed that it was military. So he wrote a program that would compose an email made of words randomly selected from a list like above and have it sent to himself, but he would direct it through that hub. Even then some places had scrubbers that would look for sensitive words in an email. Well, after a day or two of doing that (and apparently setting off various alarms and alerts), he was contacted by them and told in no uncertain terms to knock it off, or they would make things difficult for him.

He quit. He was happy because he was right in his guess.

TlalocW

tridim

(45,358 posts)
23. Are you saying that if I send an email with those words the government will send the feds?
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:07 PM
Jun 2013

Sure sounds like it.

I'll run an experiment if you really want to know and report back when the jack-booted thugs don't show up at my door.

This OP is FUD.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
78. They probably won't send the feds on the first offense. They don't have the manpower
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:06 PM
Jun 2013

for that. But you will be put on a watch list much like the lists that Stalin kept. It's a common police state tactic.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
81. So you're saying that in this "police state" all of my emails are sniffed for keywords...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:19 PM
Jun 2013

...without a warrant, and I will automatically be put on a Stalinesque watch list if I use any of those words in my emails?

I assume you've seen a link outlining the illegal program you have just described, please post it. Thanks.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
83. The parallels are obvious. The supporters of our surveillance
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:31 PM
Jun 2013

state are saying it's legal because it was signed off on by a rubber stamp secret FISA court. And when Stalin was running his police state that was "legal" too. He also had the courts in his hip pocket.

I am not saying that this will "automatically" happen but the potential is certainly there for it to happen. In a country that killed off President Kennedy because he did not toe the line I think that anything is possible.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
86. No, you can Google the PRISM the program and get thousands of hits.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jun 2013

Or Google the government's collecting meta data on it's citizens and you will get a lot of hits. It has been well established that this is happening and what I am saying is my own interpretation of that information. Charles Bolden has conformed this in testimony before Congress. You can also Google the transcript of his remarks if you wish.

Auggie

(31,182 posts)
27. Everybody needs to use these words, and frequently ...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:13 PM
Jun 2013

Overwhelm them with BILLIONS and BILLIONS of posts and e-mails until the words virtually lose their meaning.

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Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
52. I'm definitely being watched then.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:46 PM
Jun 2013

I talk about the weather all the time, almost on a daily basis. I don't get why the weather terms are on that list though. Can anyone explain why they would monitor people who use weather terminology?

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
54. Dammit!
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:48 PM
Jun 2013

I text about infrastructure security and maritime domain awareness to everyone I know, all the time!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
59. Wow, I must be real scary
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jun 2013

In the course of the day I will use at least some of them...and hazmat enters often.

I feel safer already.

apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
60. Then it's safe to assume that all of us are being watched
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 02:56 PM
Jun 2013

I can't imagine anyone above the age of 21 avoiding all of those words while online.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
66. Jefferson and Madison speak to us.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 03:36 PM
Jun 2013

Thomas Jefferson on Educating the People
Collected by: Reid Cornwell
The Center for Internet Research (TCFIR)
http:/tcfir.org

The information of the people at large can alone make them the safe as they are the sole depositary of our
political and religious freedom.
--Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 1810.

http://tcfir.org/opinion/Thomas%20Jefferson%20on%20Educating%20the%20People.pdf

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.
James Madison

The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.
James Madison

It is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.
James Madison

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/james_madison.html

These were men who lived through the American Revolution and who were to survive the War of 1812. They knew danger, yet Madison WROTE the Bill of Rights or much of it.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,189 posts)
67. I'll take one from Column A, two from Column B, and one from Column C.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 03:39 PM
Jun 2013

What do I win?

Tell him what he's won, Johnny...

You've won an all-expense-paid trip to beautiful GUANTANAMO BAY, CUBA! (Audience applauds.)

I can't see any one of these words marking you for a visit from Agent Mike (hi, Mike! ). Maybe if you manage to work ten or more into the same sentence...?

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
73. Well a terraist who can't spell
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:05 AM
Jun 2013

will slip through the noose! Teabaggers are off the hook, see how that works?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,810 posts)
76. I guess we're all in trouble...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:59 PM
Jun 2013

Terror! Bacteria! Forest fire! China! Power outage!

Come and get me, Agent Mike.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
77. It has got to the point where we have to watch what we say in fear of the
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:03 PM
Jun 2013

government going after us. For all I know they are flagging me for saying this. It's getting to be no different from living in East Germany in the 1960's. It really sucks living in a police state but that is what we have.

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
80. Scary words
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:12 PM
Jun 2013

Too late.

I have already crossed that bridge thousands of times.

I have probably been flagged by every government data base in the U.S., and all the ones they control in foreign countries.

I tend to speak out for Liberty and Justice.

My government really frowns on that.

How is that insider trading working out for all you DC politicians and your staff ?

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
82. With all due respect: Fuck the government...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:26 PM
Jun 2013

whether UK or US, & Fuck the Daily Mail and its word list.

Fuck the complaisant mentality. We are free human beings and we have an inalienable human right to speech without monitoring by the government or any other authority. Laws cannot take away this right. Our rights are higher laws, they are constitutional.

If you don't want the government spying on you, get out in the streets in your millions and shut down the entrances to the spying agencies.

If you don't want the government spying on you, support and seek to reward the whistleblowers who have brought out some of the truth at great personal sacrifice, like Manning and Snowden.

If you are a free human being,

USE ALL OF THESE WORDS AS YOU LIKE ALL THE TIME.

WeekendWarrior

(1,437 posts)
85. I'm a writer, so I use and/or look-up most of these.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:38 PM
Jun 2013

A hazard of the profession. But you know what? I don't give a damn.

Anyone who ever assumed we have privacy online is an idiot. And it isn't just the government that's spying on us. There are entire businesses built around knowing our likes, dislikes, searches, etc.

What people don't seem to understand is that the majority of this stuff is completely ANONYMOUS. It only becomes attached to names when the flow of metadata goes from random to suspicious. I honestly believe it's the fundamental lack of understanding about how technology works that has people creating ridiculous "spying" scenarios.

All they're looking for are data patterns. And if they weren't, and we got attacked because of it, the very same people who are complaining now would be screaming, "Why didn't the government protect us?"

treestar

(82,383 posts)
87. that would bring up another issue
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jun 2013

Those words are too obvious. Shouldn't it be more sophisticated than that?

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
88. Too late. I can't undo what's already done.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:40 PM
Jun 2013

NSA has wasted some of their time on me, possibly. If so they are idiots, because I lead a pedestrian life.

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