What do you think of Edward Snowden?

[Douglas Carpenter]

13 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	He is a great hero
	2 (15%)
	He is a traitor against the United States of America
	3 (23%)
	Neither hero or traitor - but a pathetic attention seeking loser
	1 (8%)
	It doesn't matter - The issue is not about him. The issue is about the U.S. Intelligence services engaging in a massive surveillance campaign that is intrusive and unconstitutional
	7 (54%)
	It doesn't matter. The issue is not about him. It is about how his actions might contribute to the underming of the Obama Administration
	0 (0%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[hamster]

1. I like Jimmy Pillowfort better than Edward Snowden

[Douglas Carpenter]

2. for some more results

[one_voice]

3. I think it's funny that a shit load of people...

that were calling him a hero and talking about how courageous he is and hoping he does well; high fives all around are all of a sudden meh on him and screaming it's not about him from the top of their lungs all the while calling others hypocrites.

If you trashed threads with his name there'd be slim pickin's for reading.

As for what I think, I'm don't think anything yet, still waiting for all the whole cookie to crumble. We haven't heard everything yet.

[Whisp]

5. light speed disownment

almost beautiful to see, the physics of that.

And they all have one thing in common. Letya guess.

[Electric Monk]

8. I'll take a guess what they* have in common: Fewer hidden posts than you (9 in the last 90)

* people...
that were calling him a hero and talking about how courageous he is and hoping he does well; high fives all around are all of a sudden meh on him and screaming it's not about him from the top of their lungs all the while calling others hypocrites

I'll take another guess too, while I'm at it, that that's not the thing in common that you had in mind

[Whisp]

13. only 9? woah, you guys are slacking.

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but thanks for playing and showing what is the really important thing to you. My Hides! Nevamind the NSA, or Eddie or Glennie, or whether the moon is made of cheese. It's my Hides!!!

lordy.

[Douglas Carpenter]

11. if Bush was President - everyone here would have been calling him a hero

[arely staircase]

20. if my aunt had testicles - she'd be my uncle.

nt

[Douglas Carpenter]

4. surely there must be at least one person with the intellecutal honesty to answer #5

even I'm worried that this could in some way undermine some of the more positive aspects of the Obama Administration, And it might in only the short run. I just think that defending our country against authoritarianism takes precedence and is far more important than partisan politics. Besides, I really don't believe that these revelations will in the long run benefit the Republicans. "How can Obama be a terrorist or a terrorist sympathizer or at least soft on terrorism if he is overstepping the bounds and going too far in fighting terrorism?" The Republicans (outside of the fringe Paulite wing) can't make a big issue out of this. That would completely undermine their self-image as the only real terrorist fighters and their delusional manufactured image of liberals as terrorist sympathizers.

[Tx4obama]

10. Well, if there had been a #6...

Say a combination of #2 and #5...

He is a traitor against the United States of America AND his actions might contribute to the underming of the Obama Administration.

I would have voted for that one

[Douglas Carpenter]

12. another kick for more results

[flamingdem]

6. Pass because he's a guy over his head now owned by the Chinese

He might have started out one way but this is going to be his permanent state now.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

7. Hero for shining a light on our secret government, but it's not about him but what he revealed to us

[Whisp]

16. That light was on for many years. Snowden shone nothing

except the light that shows he and Greenwald make shit up to fit their stories.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. Is that why Obama made a CYA statement about it?

And, if it's all so well known and harmless why are they pursuing Snowden and why is the program secret?

[Whisp]

19. are you serious? why is the program secret?

yah, we should all have problems with some of the things our governments and corporations do to us. I can fully accept that. But saying the National Security Agency shouldn't have secrets? That's over the top silly.

They should have had Morning Joe announce that the Seals were after Bin Laden and give co-ordinates and all as soon as the plan was fixed? How many were going in and what tactics they were using? that should have been public knowledge before the fact?

woah.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

21. But, you just said everyone knew. That what Snowden released was common knowledge.

I agree, somewhat, that what he revealed about the NSA spying on our country's citizens was somewhat known. The important thing is that someone did reveal the obvious. Like the kid in the "Emperor's new clothes" story. Which now opens the eyes of the citizens being spied on to the extent of surveillance state and the dangers of giving up their liberties for the illusion of security.

[moondust]

9. Ron Paul fanboy. n/t

[HappyMe]

14. Paulbot, traitor, attention seeker.

[DCBob]

15. Two bit hacker/con man looking to make headlines..

and money.

[sibelian]

17. I don't, particularly.

Neither should anyone else, particularly.