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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:00 PM Jun 2013

Letter: Felon Thanks the NRA

LETTER: Felon Thanks The NRA

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As a lifelong career criminal, although I no longer enjoy the right to keep and bear arms, I'd like to take a moment to express my appreciation to the National Rifle Association for nonetheless protecting my ability to easily obtain them through its opposition to universal background checks.

Upon release in a few years from my current federal sentence on bank robbery and weapons charges, I fully anticipate being able to stop at a gun show on my way home to Connecticut -- where new laws have made it nearly impossible for a felon to readily purchase guns or ammunition -- in order to buy some with which to resume my criminal activities.

And so, a heartfelt thank you to the NRA and all those members of Congress voting with them. I, along with tens of thousands of other criminals, couldn't do what we do without you.

Gary W. Bornman,
The writer is an inmate at the federal "Supermax" prison in Florence, Colo.

http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/letters/hcrs-15241hc--20130605,0,4878261.story

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This was in the Hartford Courant. My instincts tell me it's satire, but I can't find any evidence of that...so unless anyone can tell me different, this looks legit.

Which is all the awesome if so.

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Letter: Felon Thanks the NRA (Original Post) WilliamPitt Jun 2013 OP
Yeah, it's probably satire. premium Jun 2013 #1
Yeah , and we all know that it is impossible and against the law to purchase guns. bahrbearian Jun 2013 #5
I told you that? premium Jun 2013 #6
Yeah you did . do your own search. bahrbearian Jun 2013 #7
See, this is how it works, premium Jun 2013 #8
You want him to prove to himself what he DIDN'T say? EOTE Jun 2013 #20
He's for real. Brickbat Jun 2013 #2
I've spent time at AdMax in Florence and have an understanding of the population there.. pipoman Jun 2013 #3
Whether it's true or not, it still illustrates the point BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #4
Yes, what's wrong with telling a lie in order to find the truth? Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #10
Ask Mark Twain...? LanternWaste Jun 2013 #21
Satire is most effective when it is profound, or shocking, or humorous Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #23
Every new firearm manufacturered Grisbald Jun 2013 #15
And when they're resold? BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #17
Thats good, I like your play on words, very clever, instead of every GUN how about PEOPLE. Rebellious Republican Jun 2013 #18
It's obviously a hoax on the form of satire, or simply a hoax. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #9
Interesting ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #11
Or he could just move to Texas. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #12
Career criminal was what I was thinking ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #13
It isn't a hoax, in all likelihood. An inmate who's trolling productively nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #14
Neither satire, nor a hoax. Robb Jun 2013 #16
Correct me if I'm wrong jmowreader Jun 2013 #19
So... Serve The Servants Jun 2013 #22
This Guy Did Rob My Bank Way Back When Billsmile Jun 2013 #24
let me get this straight...... virginia mountainman Jun 2013 #25
Background checks for private sales makes obtaining a ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #26
"Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA" Occulus Jun 2013 #29
Most recidivist felons are psychopaths, and have never been thankful for or geckosfeet Jun 2013 #27
"Favorite group: Gun Control & RKBA" Occulus Jun 2013 #28
And your point is? geckosfeet Jun 2013 #30
Exactly what you're thinking it was. Occulus Jun 2013 #31
I am thinking that you feel like you are offering a public service by announcing that. geckosfeet Jun 2013 #33
LOL, good catch. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #32
If I were the prosecutor that sent this guy away Jenoch Jun 2013 #34
 

premium

(3,731 posts)
1. Yeah, it's probably satire.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:02 PM
Jun 2013

If your in Florence ADX, chances are you're in for life, only the worse of the worse go there.

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
5. Yeah , and we all know that it is impossible and against the law to purchase guns.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:16 PM
Jun 2013

without a background check, at least thats what you tell me.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
6. I told you that?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:22 PM
Jun 2013

Show me just one post where I said that. Are you sure you replied to the correct person?

I've said all along that I want UBC, a mag. limit modeled on CO law, better reporting from states to NICS, stricter enforcement of straw purchases, better mental health system.

I've never said that it's impossible to and against the law to buy a firearm w/o a background check.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
8. See, this is how it works,
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:28 PM
Jun 2013

you made the accusation, you provide the proof, but I understand, you can't, so you try to throw it on me.

Sorry. Not. Going. To. Work.

I provide the proof of your accusation

EOTE

(13,409 posts)
20. You want him to prove to himself what he DIDN'T say?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jun 2013

Is that not the least little bit ummm, insane? Nice game you've got there.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
2. He's for real.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:06 PM
Jun 2013

ETA: As in, there's a guy named Gary Bornman who's a little more interesting than the average bank robber.

http://articles.courant.com/2001-06-13/news/0106130065_1_fbi-agents-bank-robber-suicide-attempt

I'm betting the paper checked that letter several times.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
3. I've spent time at AdMax in Florence and have an understanding of the population there..
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 12:18 PM
Jun 2013

nobody in AdMax is "getting out in a few years", unless "a few years" means 10 or 20. I don't believe anyone is released from AdMax..if they are actually eligible for release they are put in the neighboring max for some time prior to release where they are monitored closely for violations. Every piece of mail going out is thoroughly screened and this letter wouldn't make it out, nor would someone in there write such a letter if they really believed they were ever getting out. Simply not buying it at all...I am the opposite, someone is going to have to prove it is legit before I would believe a single word of it.

edit..The article above says 2022 is his release date...maybe he wrote it, maybe not..it seems consistent with other writings..I still find it difficult to believe the letter could get through the screen at AdMax..

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
4. Whether it's true or not, it still illustrates the point
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:05 PM
Jun 2013

Guns are easy to get and the NRA likes it that way. The gun manufacturers themselves have admitted they do not support any restrictions because selling illegally is part of their profit structure. Profits over people!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Ask Mark Twain...?
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jun 2013

Ask Mark Twain...? Or Sartre? Or Steven Colbert? Or William Thackeray? Or Anthony Burgess?

I imagine nuance, satire, and context are indeed, quite difficult concepts for sub-literate idiots to understand, but they all do exist. Yes, indeed. They do exist.

 

Nimajneb Nilknarf

(319 posts)
23. Satire is most effective when it is profound, or shocking, or humorous
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 07:19 PM
Jun 2013

The bogus prisoner letter is none of those.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
17. And when they're resold?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 06:11 PM
Jun 2013

Why are states and Congress trying to pass laws for background checks if they are all being checked?

 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
18. Thats good, I like your play on words, very clever, instead of every GUN how about PEOPLE.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jun 2013

I suppose you keep a gun nearby to protect yourself from career criminals and mentally incompetent people. What are the chances of you getting to that gun before you realize what is happening to you, by being surprised by said folks.

Need to educate yourself, here are the laws....

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/safety-justice/gun-show-firearms-bankground-checks-state-laws-map.html

Here are some stats......
http://www.minnpost.com/second-opinion/2012/12/health-risk-having-gun-home



 

Nimajneb Nilknarf

(319 posts)
9. It's obviously a hoax on the form of satire, or simply a hoax.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:32 PM
Jun 2013

The astute user of Google can find references to the piece back at least to January 2007.

ismnotwasm

(41,989 posts)
11. Interesting
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:34 PM
Jun 2013

There is a Gary W. Bornman referenced in this book 'To Serve and Protect" by Bruce L Benson, the quote is about criminals taking 'responsibility'fot their own actions, from 1995. No way to tell if its the same guy. It's still a pretty awesome letter


http://books.google.com/books?id=RD9w0bKW_Z4C&pg=PA227&lpg=PA227&dq=gary+W+bornman&source=bl&ots=fvMeTUhajz&sig=FoBN3QWhRMjjyU9N07vKobleV8Q&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JQG6Ucu-EomSiAKy14D4Dw&ved=0CDgQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=gary%20W%20bornman&f=false


jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
19. Correct me if I'm wrong
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jun 2013

Wouldn't the fact that this gentleman has publicly announced his intention to purchase a gun and resume his crimes be justification for the feds to not let him out?

Serve The Servants

(328 posts)
22. So...
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 06:14 PM
Jun 2013

Convicted felons who have stated they have every intention of further breaking the law upon release, (but will then blame the NRA for their crimes,) have the support of DU gun control advocates?

Ok. Got it. Thanks

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
25. let me get this straight......
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 05:31 PM
Jun 2013

only one more law would stop him from getting a gun? what about all the other laws he has broken? I thought criminals by definition did not obey the law?


ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
26. Background checks for private sales makes obtaining a
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 05:41 PM
Jun 2013

firearm much more difficult for felons. Right now, all they have to do is look up local gun shows.

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
27. Most recidivist felons are psychopaths, and have never been thankful for or
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jun 2013

to anyone in their entire lives. I find it difficult to believe that a psychopath could have and express a thankful sentiment. Then again they are absolute masters at manipulating others.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
34. If I were the prosecutor that sent this guy away
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 07:05 PM
Jun 2013

I'd add conspiracy to commit a felony and get an easy conviction and keep the guy behind bars.

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