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FEMA denies more funds to Texas... (Original Post) clarice Jun 2013 OP
my conservative roomate said the state should be responsible riverbendviewgal Jun 2013 #1
IMHO... a disaster is a disaster is........nt clarice Jun 2013 #2
I disagree with you riverbendviewgal Jun 2013 #3
As to FEMA, we will have to agree to disagree. clarice Jun 2013 #4
half right SoCalDem Jun 2013 #13
low housing costs, low food costs, clarice Jun 2013 #14
Yup.. I've been there.. costs have to be low.. low wages SoCalDem Jun 2013 #16
Low wages? That is absurd. PS... clarice Jun 2013 #19
They took a new-born Texan back with them, so something good came of their adventure SoCalDem Jun 2013 #23
OMG...how CUTE !!! I want to eat that baby up !!! congrats. I know you're proud. clarice Jun 2013 #26
Off subject, but do you have a link to the exchange in your sig line? madinmaryland Jun 2013 #35
I don't think I still have it.. It was a very long time ago SoCalDem Jun 2013 #36
You forgot a couple. CokeMachine Jun 2013 #18
I'll take that as a compliment cowboy........ clarice Jun 2013 #20
You can take that as a compliment and double it for a total of two. CokeMachine Jun 2013 #37
wooooo hoooo ! ride 'em cowboy. nt clarice Jun 2013 #40
And you can kill anyone on sight if they steal from you. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #24
Oh shoot... I forgot that one....thanks geek. nt clarice Jun 2013 #27
it's a unique Texas tradition. nt geek tragedy Jun 2013 #28
No place but Texas.....yeeee hawwwww nt clarice Jun 2013 #31
NO mention of the company's responsibility or liability loyalsister Jun 2013 #6
I agree that the company should shoulder the responsibility.. clarice Jun 2013 #8
god will provide datasuspect Jun 2013 #5
which God are you referring to? There are many.. clarice Jun 2013 #7
The lord of Texas riverbendviewgal Jun 2013 #10
I am the official Lordess of Texas. nt clarice Jun 2013 #12
The Almighty Dollar - the Official Lord of Texas meow2u3 Jun 2013 #15
And what do YOU use to barter for goods? Keebler elf cookies?nt clarice Jun 2013 #17
The Lord God Almighty datasuspect Jun 2013 #11
Yes, that is Texan way riverbendviewgal Jun 2013 #9
FEMA denies disaster funds for West, Texas. Is that unusual? DreamGypsy Jun 2013 #21
good gathering of info riverbendviewgal Jun 2013 #22
Let the company pay for it all. No federal bailout for them. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #25
LOL...very progressive thinking.nt clarice Jun 2013 #29
As opposed to doing things on the cheap and then asking geek tragedy Jun 2013 #30
Nice one....BTW...if you ever decide to get a job...you're more than welcome here. clarice Jun 2013 #32
Retorts almost as sharp as safety scissors, madame. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #33
What kind of ice cream do you sell ? nt ps You are dismissed. clarice Jun 2013 #34
Is not NT mean nice thread - referring to the OP that is created. riverbendviewgal Jun 2013 #38
Nt means - no text - meaning that I didn't type anything in the message box. nt clarice Jun 2013 #39

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
3. I disagree with you
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:02 PM
Jun 2013

The company is responsible and should have carried insurance to cover these accidents...and the town , county (district) and state are the next in line to assist.


FEMA is assisting individuals. and 75 percent of the clean up.

A disaster is weather caused or war/terror caused. This is negligence . The company chose to not be inspected and keep up its standards. The state chose to not have regulations for the company to comply with.

The state also does not like Federal government interfering. Remember less /small Federal government is what Texas wants.
The can not have it both ways.


I watched CNN this morning and there was NO mention of the company's responsibility or liability.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
4. As to FEMA, we will have to agree to disagree.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:10 PM
Jun 2013

As to the little remark about Texas

"The state also does not like Federal government interfering. Remember less /small Federal government is what Texas wants. "

Maybe that's why so many people and companies are relocating here.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
13. half right
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:35 PM
Jun 2013

companies who want to be "free of regulations" and who like "low wages & right-to-fire" are going there.. and then there's the no-taxes thing.. Taxes pay for this sort of thing.

States who go off willy-nilly , bragging about their lack of regulation, should reap what they sow.. and perhaps should be setting up disaster funds for situations like this.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
14. low housing costs, low food costs,
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:45 PM
Jun 2013

good schools,
multi cultural communities,.
low un-employment rate,
incentives for minority owned businesses
great artistic communities
great live music environment
handsome cowboys
great restaurants
thriving micro-brewery business
cool winters

Have you ever been here Cali? Didn't think so.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
16. Yup.. I've been there.. costs have to be low.. low wages
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:54 PM
Jun 2013

My son moved there and as soon as he could, he skedaddled back to Seattle

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
23. They took a new-born Texan back with them, so something good came of their adventure
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:25 PM
Jun 2013

Our first and only grandchild

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
36. I don't think I still have it.. It was a very long time ago
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:06 PM
Jun 2013

I could not resist capturing that snippet

 

CokeMachine

(1,018 posts)
18. You forgot a couple.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jun 2013

Friendly people
Family Orientated
Gorgeous Cowgirls
Dallas Cowboys and Cowgirls
Wide open spaces
etc.

Spent a lot of time in DFW on projects for a couple of years and loved it. The only problem was trying to figure out where to buy beer on Sunday.

Did I mention: Gorgeous Cowgirls!!!


 

CokeMachine

(1,018 posts)
37. You can take that as a compliment and double it for a total of two.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jun 2013

I love your posts!! Have a great day!!

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
6. NO mention of the company's responsibility or liability
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:11 PM
Jun 2013

I saw that on MSNBC can't remember which show. Two republicans were saying the feds should pony up. No one mentioned the responsibility of the company. That should make for a huge class action suite.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
8. I agree that the company should shoulder the responsibility..
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:16 PM
Jun 2013

I was thinking more of those poor people affected by the disaster.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
7. which God are you referring to? There are many..
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:14 PM
Jun 2013

Jehovah ?
Shiva ?
Allah ?
Dambalah the snake God of Haiti ?
Zeus ?

BTW...nice thinly veiled sarcasm...very progressive thinking.

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
21. FEMA denies disaster funds for West, Texas. Is that unusual?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:20 PM
Jun 2013

From the Christian Science Monitor article FEMA denies disaster funds for West, Texas. Is that unusual?:

FEMA said the agency and the US Small Business Administration have approved more than $7 million in aid and low-interest loans to West residents impacted by the blast, which killed 15 people. FEMA also is paying 75 percent of the costs of debris removal and will reimburse the state and the municipality for the initial emergency response.

While the ruling means that residents won’t get as much assistance as is typically given to victims of tornadoes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters, it isn’t unprecedented. FEMA has turned down that level of assistance for emergencies not stemming from natural disasters before, such as in 2010 when officials denied a request for millions in aid after a gas pipeline explosion in northern California.


Lots of information about the FEMA procedures for disaster assistence is available.

The FEMA disaster declaration for West TX is here Texas Explosion.

What is a Declaration?

Based on the Governor's request, the President may declare that a major disaster or emergency exists, thus activating an array of Federal programs to assist in the response and recovery effort. Not all programs, however, are activated for every disaster. The determination of which programs are activated is based on the needs found during damage assessment and any subsequent information that may be discovered.

Some declarations will provide only individual assistance or only public assistance. Hazard mitigation opportunities are assessed in most situations.


News Releases
June 7, 2013
FEMA Working With Plant Explosion Survivors to Identify Unmet Needs
June 4, 2013
FEMA Registration Deadline Two Weeks Away for West, Texas Plant Explosion Survivors
May 30, 2013
WEST, TEXAS FEDERAL DISASTER ASSISTANCE TOPS $5 MILLION
May 20, 2013
CONTACT FEMA WITH INSURANCE SETTLEMENT DOCUMENTATION
May 5, 2013
FEMA TRANSITIONAL SHELTERING ASSISTANCE LAUNCHED IN WEST, TEXAS
May 4, 2013
FEMA TEAMS BLANKET WEST, TEXAS NEIGHBORHOODS
May 3, 2013
DISASTER RECOVERY CENTER OPENS SATURDAY IN WEST, TEXAS
May 2, 2013
TEXANS URGED TO REGISTER FOR FEDERAL DISASTER ASSISTANCE
May 1, 2013
President Expands Emergency Declaration for Texas to Include Assistance to Individuals
April 19, 2013
President Declares Emergency for Texas
April 19, 2013
Federal Aid Programs for Emergency Declaration for Texas


The earliest release states:

Following is a summary of key federal disaster aid programs that can be made available as needed and warranted under President Obama’s emergency declaration issued for Texas.

Assistance for the State and Affected Local Governments Can Include as Required:

FEMA is authorized to provide appropriate assistance for required emergency measures, authorized under Title V of the Stafford Act, to save lives and to protect property and public health and safety, or to lessen or avert the threat of a catastrophe in the designated areas.

Specifically, FEMA is authorized to provide emergency protective measures (Category B), including direct Federal assistance, under the Public Assistance program at 75 percent Federal funding. (Source: FEMA funded, state administered.)

How to Apply for Assistance:

Application procedures for commonwealth, tribal and local governments will be explained at a series of federal/state applicant briefings with locations to be announced in the affected area by officials. Approved projects are paid through the state from funding provided by FEMA and other participating federal agencies.

FEMA’s mission is to support our first responders and ensure that as a nation we work together to build, sustain, and improve our capability to prepare for, protect against, respond to, recover from, and mitigate all hazards.


About Public Assistance

The Federal share of assistance is not less than 75% of the eligible cost for emergency measures and permanent restoration. The grantee (usually the State) determines how the non-Federal share (up to 25%) is split with the subgrantees (eligible applicants).


Yes, the game of politics is being played with the West disaster. Rick Perry is doing the playing.


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
25. Let the company pay for it all. No federal bailout for them.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:28 PM
Jun 2013

Also, if Texans are so fucking proud of Rick Perry's Texas Miracle they should be more than willing to pick up the tab for the inevitable death and destruction that result from a lack of government safety functions.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
32. Nice one....BTW...if you ever decide to get a job...you're more than welcome here.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:39 PM
Jun 2013

as you have figured out by now, my retorts are sharper than
a mamba's fang. Now , Go away , or I will taunt you for a second time.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
33. Retorts almost as sharp as safety scissors, madame.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:45 PM
Jun 2013

I have the privilege of not only having a job, but living in a state where the state policy isn't to let poor people die of malnutrition or preventable disease.

The education officials in my state don't believe Jesus rode a dinosaur.

The officials in my state believe scientists over oil lobbyists.

And, folks in my state value human life over that of money. In my state, if someone snatches your purse or wallet and is running away, it's actually illegal to shoot them in the back. Unlike Texas, where killing an unarmed thief in the process of fleeing is specifically allowed and encouraged by the legislature.

Though, in terms of elected officials, I must admit that the Texas All-Star team of Louie Gohmert, Rick Perry, John Cornyn and Ted Cruz are quite an entertaining bunch. You must be so proud.

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
38. Is not NT mean nice thread - referring to the OP that is created.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:35 PM
Jun 2013

are you not, Clarice, praising your own OP?

Please correct me if I am wrong.

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