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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:58 PM Jun 2013

Booze Allen Hamilton are looking for a System Admin, Junior Job in Hawaii - Secret Clearance needed

So...this verifies what I thought..he really didn't have much access to shit..prob a deck of Powerpoint slides and local PC's and that's it...



The same day that Snowden was officially terminated, Booz Allen posted a listing for a “Systems Administrator, Junior Job” based in Hawaii. “Secret clearance is required.”

The specific government agency is not named but the successful applicant will have a “[k]nowledge of DoD Secure System Configuration tools and methods, including STIG’s, VMS, and Gold Disk to scan and remediate systems to maintain compliancy.”

The job description says that the systems administrator will “support current information security technology disciplines and practices to ensure the confidentiality, integrity, and availability of corporate information assets in accordance with established standards and procedures.”


Snowden, who is hailed as a hero by some privacy rights advocates and lambasted as a traitor by others, is still believed to be in Hong Kong. On Thursday, FBI Director Robert Mueller indicated that Snowden is under investigation, though he did not name him. According to Reuters, Mueller testified at a House Judiciary Committee hearing that “the individual who has admitted making these disclosures ... is the subject of an ongoing criminal investigation.”

James Fisher, a Booz Allen spokesman, said he could not comment about the Hawaii job posting or say anything about the matter beyond the statements that the company has already put out.

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Booze Allen Hamilton are looking for a System Admin, Junior Job in Hawaii - Secret Clearance needed (Original Post) HipChick Jun 2013 OP
He had the Verizon court orderr too. That's pretty significant. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #1
Yes...but also easy grabs HipChick Jun 2013 #2
this verifies nothing whatsoever. In any case, except for those who have a creepy cali Jun 2013 #3
ah, so Creepy Obsession over Him is over now? Whisp Jun 2013 #5
But..But...he's a national hero... HipChick Jun 2013 #7
sorry hon, but anyone who has posted dozens and dozens and dozens of posts about cali Jun 2013 #12
make it personal! Whisp Jun 2013 #14
It's not my fault that you got taken in by a con man HipChick Jun 2013 #15
One more time, in simple language: cali Jun 2013 #25
Where was your outrage 8yrs ago...this isn't exactly breaking news...Why do you think all the HipChick Jun 2013 #27
I have an obsession with people who don't answer simple questions snooper2 Jun 2013 #17
General Alexander was troubled nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #4
Confirmed exactly what access? HipChick Jun 2013 #6
Look for the testimony on the span nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #9
Alexander is far from the most powerful man in DC HipChick Jun 2013 #16
Of course nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #18
Alexander LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #20
What does that prove? Nothing.. HipChick Jun 2013 #22
Sigh. I get that you are trying not to understand this but LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #23
I haven't said a word about his looks.. HipChick Jun 2013 #32
"this guy looks more and more like the IT guy that fixes your printer" LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #35
And you look like someone determined to piss people off. randome Jun 2013 #38
Semantics...Does a human looks like a printer? HipChick Jun 2013 #41
OK, fair enough LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #42
Read below.. HipChick Jun 2013 #44
I think you dismissed something important... Whisp Jun 2013 #31
Knowledge of PowerPoint a plus. Octafish Jun 2013 #8
Hell, based on Snowden's meager resume, his girlfriend Lindsay could apply for the job! randome Jun 2013 #10
LMAO! HipChick Jun 2013 #11
Historically, there have been many self-taught computer experts... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #26
I agree completely with you. I, myself, have no college degree. randome Jun 2013 #33
It is easy to bamboozled someone, if you are not an IT aware person yourself HipChick Jun 2013 #45
You just have to talk in acronyms and maintain a distracted disposition. randome Jun 2013 #46
I've worked with people who knew all the buzz words.. HipChick Jun 2013 #48
They go by what is on your resume though... HipChick Jun 2013 #34
Would you really take a job like this? Generic Other Jun 2013 #13
Six figures in Hawaii? MattBaggins Jun 2013 #37
LOL! You could always send them FANTASTIC Christmas and birthday gifts! randome Jun 2013 #39
So, the information is harmless and incosequetial...that's why it's secret. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #19
This supports my theory the guy was a low level two bit hacker type DCBob Jun 2013 #21
Even if the OS is secure... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #24
USB ports are supposed to be disabled for these types of projects HipChick Jun 2013 #28
Well sure they are... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #29
I thought he had at least TS or SCI NightWatcher Jun 2013 #30
Exactly...Been saying this for some time.. HipChick Jun 2013 #36
He's a little Paulbot who wet his pants when he got a peek behind the curtain NightWatcher Jun 2013 #40
Agree....I think he'll get out of China...he's not smart enough for them HipChick Jun 2013 #43
They forgot to add one more qualification: eissa Jun 2013 #47
Lmao! DUzy! HipChick Jun 2013 #49
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. this verifies nothing whatsoever. In any case, except for those who have a creepy
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:06 PM
Jun 2013

obsession with him, Snowden isn't the point.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
5. ah, so Creepy Obsession over Him is over now?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:09 PM
Jun 2013

There were many here creepily obsessing about his so called herosim a couple days ago.

But now it's not okay to talk about him.

ok! got that!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. sorry hon, but anyone who has posted dozens and dozens and dozens of posts about
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jun 2013

him- and you have- is a wee bit obsessed.

I've posted largely on the issues entailed? YOU? Gossip shit.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
14. make it personal!
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jun 2013

yeh, get so mad you were duped by some asshole liar you thought was a hero, you just go ahead and scream at someone else.

That always works.



HipChick

(25,485 posts)
15. It's not my fault that you got taken in by a con man
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:26 PM
Jun 2013

hook line and sinker and need to resort to personal attacks

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
25. One more time, in simple language:
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:51 PM
Jun 2013

This isn't about him, nor did I get taken in by him. As I wrote, "hero or devil's spawn, I don't give a shit".

This is about the massive surveillance state and how it is growing at an exponential rate. It's about terrorism: Terrorism as big business for U.S. corporations. It's about what the military industrial state is morphing into and why. It's about why we need the kind of security government says we do. In short, it's about policy and what sort of society we are and will be.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
27. Where was your outrage 8yrs ago...this isn't exactly breaking news...Why do you think all the
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:53 PM
Jun 2013

lawmakers in DC when they leave office go to work for companies like BAH

DOD contracting is the biggest growth sector...

It's profitable to stay in a 'war'...

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
4. General Alexander was troubled
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jun 2013

At the access he had. The good general confirmed his access before Congress yesterday.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
9. Look for the testimony on the span
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:14 PM
Jun 2013

Or the guardian...but pretty much closing the barn door at the moment.

And Alexander is one of the most powerful men in DC...the fact he admitted it was significant.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
16. Alexander is far from the most powerful man in DC
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:27 PM
Jun 2013

but of course there are a lot of armchair experts here..

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
20. Alexander
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:34 PM
Jun 2013

1) You might want to read this: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/general-keith-alexander-cyberwar/3/

2) I did not see the testimony, but IF Alexander said what nadin said he said, would you agree your agrument about Snowden's level of access is wrong?

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
22. What does that prove? Nothing..
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:39 PM
Jun 2013

Lots of folks have Top Secret access - about 500,000 - does not mean they all have access to NSA systems or any system access - period...this guy looks more and more like the IT guy that fixes your printer, but had to have a secured clearance to work at that facility

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
23. Sigh. I get that you are trying not to understand this but
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jun 2013

1) Nadin posted that Alexander was a very powerful man. You misquoted her, saying he wasn't "the most powerful" man in Washington. The article linked to shows that he is indeed, very, very powerful...meaning nadin was right and you were wrong.

2) You claimed in your OP that it was proof Snowden didn't have the access he claimed. Nadin stated that Alexander testified that he was indeed troubled by the level of access (again, I did not personally see this testimony) Snowden had. Yet, without looking at either of these pieces of information you've come to the ironclad conclusion Snowden didn't have the access. Based on the fact that he looks "like the IT guy that fixes your printer".

That's some top flight logic.

You just keep obsessing about his looks, it makes your statements highly credible.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
35. "this guy looks more and more like the IT guy that fixes your printer"
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jun 2013

Do you even know what is in your own posts?

And let me see if I can actually get a reply to this:
2) I did not see the testimony, but IF Alexander said what nadin said he said, would you agree your agrument about Snowden's level of access is wrong?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
38. And you look like someone determined to piss people off.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:12 PM
Jun 2013

That doesn't mean I know anything about your actual appearance. Do you see how the word 'looks' works now?

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LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
42. OK, fair enough
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:16 PM
Jun 2013

I misunderstood that portion of your statement.

Do you have an answer for me on question #2 now?
2) I did not see the testimony, but IF Alexander said what nadin said he said, would you agree your agrument about Snowden's level of access is wrong?

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
44. Read below..
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:23 PM
Jun 2013

Anybody that has had a Top Secret or Secret Clearance knows he is lying his arse off..

In the same way, President Obama is the head of the country, he won't know what low level IRS bean counter is doing with Tea Bagger tax returns..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3010897

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. Hell, based on Snowden's meager resume, his girlfriend Lindsay could apply for the job!
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:14 PM
Jun 2013

Whoops. I meant ex-girlfriend.

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ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
26. Historically, there have been many self-taught computer experts...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:53 PM
Jun 2013

...I've worked with several smart people who did not have college degrees. Now some of them were immature twits, but then so were some of my more highly-educated colleagues.

It is less common now to employ such people, but it still happens. I would guess he had some serious skills.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
33. I agree completely with you. I, myself, have no college degree.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jun 2013

But when I worked for a newspaper, I wrote an application that so impressed my boss, he quit to start his own company based on a version I wrote for him.

He gave me very generous royalties for several years until he asked me to sell him the code so he could expand his company.

That application, much, MUCH changed from its original form, is now in media companies across the planet. I have some small satisfaction in knowing that I helped put it there.

Snowden's girlfriend described him as an IT genius and that would give me a small measure of sympathy for him. Geniuses -and I'm not claiming the title myself- don't often fit in our cookie-cutter world.

But she also said she didn't understand IT so I wonder if Snowden bamboozled everyone up and down the line. Eventually we'll learn the truth.

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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
45. It is easy to bamboozled someone, if you are not an IT aware person yourself
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:26 PM
Jun 2013

I suspect his peers though would have laughed him out the door ..which is why he was only at BAH a few months...

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
46. You just have to talk in acronyms and maintain a distracted disposition.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:28 PM
Jun 2013

As if your brain is solving a dozen problems at once!

Maybe Snowden didn't have peers to speak of. Maybe he kept to himself.

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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
48. I've worked with people who knew all the buzz words..
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:30 PM
Jun 2013

If someone was not technical I can see how they would be impressed

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
34. They go by what is on your resume though...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:08 PM
Jun 2013

Often you won't even have a technical person on an interview either..

The Top Secret clearance has priority over the skill set..

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
39. LOL! You could always send them FANTASTIC Christmas and birthday gifts!
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jun 2013

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DCBob

(24,689 posts)
21. This supports my theory the guy was a low level two bit hacker type
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jun 2013

that had just enough clearance and skill and brains to hack into the servers that had the juicy files.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
24. Even if the OS is secure...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:50 PM
Jun 2013

...and supports compartmented security, systems administrators may have broader access in the course of performing their duties.

Secure systems will often define different roles, such as analyst vs. operator; and the operator will have some form of operational access to data they can't really see -- for example, they may have the ability to perform backups on Top Secret files while not being able to open the files and read them. One hopes there was some of this going on... but even so, sysadmins (not operators) may have broader access than that.

Anyway, we are talking about an installation where they had USB ports open -- that's how Snowden was able to copy material onto a thumb drive. For some reason, that makes me think he might have had the access he claims.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
28. USB ports are supposed to be disabled for these types of projects
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jun 2013

I do wonder why BAH is not coming under much more examination

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
29. Well sure they are...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:57 PM
Jun 2013

...but apparently they weren't. Based on that, I am unwilling to surmise that he did not have the access he claims he had.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
30. I thought he had at least TS or SCI
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jun 2013

Shit, I had SCI access and was read into a few instances. This guy had very little access and anything he got I bet he got through means not related to his job.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
36. Exactly...Been saying this for some time..
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jun 2013

But none of the DU Snowden fanclub want to hear it...

I've had TS/SCI - this guy didn't have diddly squat..

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
40. He's a little Paulbot who wet his pants when he got a peek behind the curtain
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jun 2013

And thought that he'd be a libertarian hero for exposing what we do and thus striking a blow against the US Empire. Instead he got in way too deep. I foresee a prison cell in his future if he's lucky enough to get out of china.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
43. Agree....I think he'll get out of China...he's not smart enough for them
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:18 PM
Jun 2013

They already have him figured out and will hand him over...unless they can use him for an bargaining tool

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