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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBooze Allen Hamilton are looking for a System Admin, Junior Job in Hawaii - Secret Clearance needed
So...this verifies what I thought..he really didn't have much access to shit..prob a deck of Powerpoint slides and local PC's and that's it...
The same day that Snowden was officially terminated, Booz Allen posted a listing for a Systems Administrator, Junior Job based in Hawaii. Secret clearance is required.
The specific government agency is not named but the successful applicant will have a [k]nowledge of DoD Secure System Configuration tools and methods, including STIGs, VMS, and Gold Disk to scan and remediate systems to maintain compliancy.
The job description says that the systems administrator will support current information security technology disciplines and practices to ensure the confidentiality, integrity, and availability of corporate information assets in accordance with established standards and procedures.
Snowden, who is hailed as a hero by some privacy rights advocates and lambasted as a traitor by others, is still believed to be in Hong Kong. On Thursday, FBI Director Robert Mueller indicated that Snowden is under investigation, though he did not name him. According to Reuters, Mueller testified at a House Judiciary Committee hearing that the individual who has admitted making these disclosures ... is the subject of an ongoing criminal investigation.
James Fisher, a Booz Allen spokesman, said he could not comment about the Hawaii job posting or say anything about the matter beyond the statements that the company has already put out.
BenzoDia
(1,010 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)not actual access that he was bragging about
cali
(114,904 posts)obsession with him, Snowden isn't the point.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)There were many here creepily obsessing about his so called herosim a couple days ago.
But now it's not okay to talk about him.
ok! got that!
HipChick
(25,485 posts)and a liar to boot..
cali
(114,904 posts)him- and you have- is a wee bit obsessed.
I've posted largely on the issues entailed? YOU? Gossip shit.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)yeh, get so mad you were duped by some asshole liar you thought was a hero, you just go ahead and scream at someone else.
That always works.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)hook line and sinker and need to resort to personal attacks
cali
(114,904 posts)This isn't about him, nor did I get taken in by him. As I wrote, "hero or devil's spawn, I don't give a shit".
This is about the massive surveillance state and how it is growing at an exponential rate. It's about terrorism: Terrorism as big business for U.S. corporations. It's about what the military industrial state is morphing into and why. It's about why we need the kind of security government says we do. In short, it's about policy and what sort of society we are and will be.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)lawmakers in DC when they leave office go to work for companies like BAH
DOD contracting is the biggest growth sector...
It's profitable to stay in a 'war'...
snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)At the access he had. The good general confirmed his access before Congress yesterday.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Access and access to an actual system are two different things..
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Or the guardian...but pretty much closing the barn door at the moment.
And Alexander is one of the most powerful men in DC...the fact he admitted it was significant.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)but of course there are a lot of armchair experts here..
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Whatever
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)1) You might want to read this: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/general-keith-alexander-cyberwar/3/
2) I did not see the testimony, but IF Alexander said what nadin said he said, would you agree your agrument about Snowden's level of access is wrong?
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Lots of folks have Top Secret access - about 500,000 - does not mean they all have access to NSA systems or any system access - period...this guy looks more and more like the IT guy that fixes your printer, but had to have a secured clearance to work at that facility
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)1) Nadin posted that Alexander was a very powerful man. You misquoted her, saying he wasn't "the most powerful" man in Washington. The article linked to shows that he is indeed, very, very powerful...meaning nadin was right and you were wrong.
2) You claimed in your OP that it was proof Snowden didn't have the access he claimed. Nadin stated that Alexander testified that he was indeed troubled by the level of access (again, I did not personally see this testimony) Snowden had. Yet, without looking at either of these pieces of information you've come to the ironclad conclusion Snowden didn't have the access. Based on the fact that he looks "like the IT guy that fixes your printer".
That's some top flight logic.
You just keep obsessing about his looks, it makes your statements highly credible.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Must be some strong tea you are drinking mate..
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Do you even know what is in your own posts?
And let me see if I can actually get a reply to this:
2) I did not see the testimony, but IF Alexander said what nadin said he said, would you agree your agrument about Snowden's level of access is wrong?
randome
(34,845 posts)That doesn't mean I know anything about your actual appearance. Do you see how the word 'looks' works now?
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HipChick
(25,485 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)I misunderstood that portion of your statement.
Do you have an answer for me on question #2 now?
2) I did not see the testimony, but IF Alexander said what nadin said he said, would you agree your agrument about Snowden's level of access is wrong?
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Anybody that has had a Top Secret or Secret Clearance knows he is lying his arse off..
In the same way, President Obama is the head of the country, he won't know what low level IRS bean counter is doing with Tea Bagger tax returns..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3010897
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Hawai'i. Who'd give up a job like that?
randome
(34,845 posts)Whoops. I meant ex-girlfriend.
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ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...I've worked with several smart people who did not have college degrees. Now some of them were immature twits, but then so were some of my more highly-educated colleagues.
It is less common now to employ such people, but it still happens. I would guess he had some serious skills.
randome
(34,845 posts)But when I worked for a newspaper, I wrote an application that so impressed my boss, he quit to start his own company based on a version I wrote for him.
He gave me very generous royalties for several years until he asked me to sell him the code so he could expand his company.
That application, much, MUCH changed from its original form, is now in media companies across the planet. I have some small satisfaction in knowing that I helped put it there.
Snowden's girlfriend described him as an IT genius and that would give me a small measure of sympathy for him. Geniuses -and I'm not claiming the title myself- don't often fit in our cookie-cutter world.
But she also said she didn't understand IT so I wonder if Snowden bamboozled everyone up and down the line. Eventually we'll learn the truth.
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HipChick
(25,485 posts)I suspect his peers though would have laughed him out the door ..which is why he was only at BAH a few months...
randome
(34,845 posts)As if your brain is solving a dozen problems at once!
Maybe Snowden didn't have peers to speak of. Maybe he kept to himself.
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HipChick
(25,485 posts)If someone was not technical I can see how they would be impressed
HipChick
(25,485 posts)Often you won't even have a technical person on an interview either..
The Top Secret clearance has priority over the skill set..
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)There's something inherently creepy about it.
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)I'd sell my wife and kids out for that.
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Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Riiiiiight.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)that had just enough clearance and skill and brains to hack into the servers that had the juicy files.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...and supports compartmented security, systems administrators may have broader access in the course of performing their duties.
Secure systems will often define different roles, such as analyst vs. operator; and the operator will have some form of operational access to data they can't really see -- for example, they may have the ability to perform backups on Top Secret files while not being able to open the files and read them. One hopes there was some of this going on... but even so, sysadmins (not operators) may have broader access than that.
Anyway, we are talking about an installation where they had USB ports open -- that's how Snowden was able to copy material onto a thumb drive. For some reason, that makes me think he might have had the access he claims.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)I do wonder why BAH is not coming under much more examination
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...but apparently they weren't. Based on that, I am unwilling to surmise that he did not have the access he claims he had.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Shit, I had SCI access and was read into a few instances. This guy had very little access and anything he got I bet he got through means not related to his job.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)But none of the DU Snowden fanclub want to hear it...
I've had TS/SCI - this guy didn't have diddly squat..
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)And thought that he'd be a libertarian hero for exposing what we do and thus striking a blow against the US Empire. Instead he got in way too deep. I foresee a prison cell in his future if he's lucky enough to get out of china.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)They already have him figured out and will hand him over...unless they can use him for an bargaining tool
eissa
(4,238 posts)KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTH SHUT.