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TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:40 PM Jun 2013

Boy Scouts disappointed Caterpillar drops support

PEORIA, Ill. (AP) — Boy Scouts of America says it is disappointed Caterpillar Inc. will no longer give money to the group.

But public relations director Deron Smith on Thursday thanked the Peoria-based heavy equipment manufacturer for its past support.

Caterpillar spokeswoman Rachel Potts said Thursday that the Caterpillar Foundation has decided to withdraw its supports for Boy Scouts of America. Potts says the company believes the group's policy barring homosexual adults from serving as scout leaders is discriminatory.

Potts said the decision wasn't necessarily related to the Boy Scouts of America's recent decision to allow homosexual scouts, while still prohibiting participation by openly homosexual adults.

More at http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Boy-Scouts-disappointed-Caterpillar-drops-support-4598475.php .

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Boy Scouts disappointed Caterpillar drops support (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jun 2013 OP
re: hlthe2b Jun 2013 #1
Did we not read the OP? gcomeau Jun 2013 #2
Obviously, I thought they were joining the churches and others dropping the BS becasue of their hlthe2b Jun 2013 #9
screw caterpillar ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #3
Obviously, I only read the post which seemed to indicate they were withholding because of allowing hlthe2b Jun 2013 #5
then perhaps you could change your post to reflect you actual meaning? ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #8
I already did.... hlthe2b Jun 2013 #13
nicely done! n/t ProdigalJunkMail Jun 2013 #14
FWIW, I also made that error on the first read through... petronius Jun 2013 #17
Comprehension? still_one Jun 2013 #6
Pile ons are rude.. given I already expresed my mea culpa for the misread hlthe2b Jun 2013 #11
First of all my comment was not meant to be rude. Second I did not see your post until later, third still_one Jun 2013 #15
read for comprehension my 3rd grade teacher used to say . . . Lex Jun 2013 #7
Pile ons are rude.. given I already expresed my mea culpa for the misread hlthe2b Jun 2013 #12
That's actually kinda cool Brother Buzz Jun 2013 #4
I wonder if Cat's benefits extend to domestic partners? pipoman Jun 2013 #10
So Caterpillar was supporting the BSA but Bay Boy Jun 2013 #16
Did you read this part? Lex Jun 2013 #18
Bay Boy indirectly eluded to a valid question Brother Buzz Jun 2013 #19
They held off cutting funding until the scouts made their decision. FSogol Jun 2013 #20
Are you suggesting the corporations were applying pressure early on? Brother Buzz Jun 2013 #21
Some corps were definitely putting pressure on BSA. The only real objections to FSogol Jun 2013 #22
That was pretty much my point... Bay Boy Jun 2013 #24
Sorry, Cat. Too little, too late. Heywood J Jun 2013 #23

hlthe2b

(102,298 posts)
1. re:
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jun 2013

Edit, I mistakenly thought Caterpillar was removing support (along with a lot of the churces) because of the decision to admit gay scouts. Having read through more carefully, I realize I was mistaken..

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
2. Did we not read the OP?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jun 2013

Caterpillar dropped support in protest of the continuing policy of the scouts to not allow gay scout leaders. I have to assume you're all upset because you skimmed through without catching that part?

hlthe2b

(102,298 posts)
9. Obviously, I thought they were joining the churches and others dropping the BS becasue of their
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jun 2013

decision to allow gay scouts.

So, yes, you are correct I only read the subject line and made the wrong connection. NPR had a piece on all the churches severing their relationship with BS because of their admission of gay scouts and that was on my mind. Honest mistake. But thank YOU for giving me benefit of the doubt as opposed to the other poster who simply could NOT believe some could innocently make that error.


Edited for a typo (lest the other more rude posters downstream jump on me again)

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
3. screw caterpillar
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jun 2013

because they are withholding money because BSA is discriminating against gay troop leaders?

sP

hlthe2b

(102,298 posts)
5. Obviously, I only read the post which seemed to indicate they were withholding because of allowing
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:53 PM
Jun 2013

gay troops.

I doubt I am the only one who would have made that innocent error.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
8. then perhaps you could change your post to reflect you actual meaning?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jun 2013

no biggie either way. just seemed off a bit...

sP

petronius

(26,602 posts)
17. FWIW, I also made that error on the first read through...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:33 PM
Jun 2013


(And while I'm happy with the BSA moving in the right direction, they won't have my support until they remove all of the discriminatory policy.)

still_one

(92,242 posts)
15. First of all my comment was not meant to be rude. Second I did not see your post until later, third
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:17 PM
Jun 2013

Unless you have already done so you can edit the original post

Sorry you took my post as rude, it really wasn't meant to be,it was a way to indicated that I read it differently that is all

Take care

hlthe2b

(102,298 posts)
12. Pile ons are rude.. given I already expresed my mea culpa for the misread
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:58 PM
Jun 2013

Your post is exceedingly rude. I doubt there is any poster here, yourself included, who has not misread a post.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
4. That's actually kinda cool
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jun 2013
Potts says the company believes the group's policy barring homosexual adults from serving as scout leaders is discriminatory.

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
16. So Caterpillar was supporting the BSA but
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:25 PM
Jun 2013

is dropping support now. Does that really say good things about Caterpillar?

Lex

(34,108 posts)
18. Did you read this part?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jun 2013

It "believes the group's policy barring homosexual adults from serving as scout leaders is discriminatory."

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
19. Bay Boy indirectly eluded to a valid question
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 07:54 PM
Jun 2013

Just what was their position before, and why did they only change positions now?

FSogol

(45,491 posts)
20. They held off cutting funding until the scouts made their decision.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Thu Jun 13, 2013, 08:53 PM - Edit history (1)

Now, they are cutting funding because the BSA change in policy wasn't enough to meet its corporate standards. I believe Levi Strauss will make a similar move shortly.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
21. Are you suggesting the corporations were applying pressure early on?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 08:12 PM
Jun 2013

Cool beans, that's something I hadn't even considered.

Off topic, but this Californian is happy to see outfits steeped in northern California history (Levi Strauss and Caterpillar) making an impact.

FSogol

(45,491 posts)
22. Some corps were definitely putting pressure on BSA. The only real objections to
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 08:53 PM
Jun 2013

the policy change came from the Southern Baptists and LDS.

Bay Boy

(1,689 posts)
24. That was pretty much my point...
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:06 AM
Jun 2013

...they didn't have a problem with the discriminatory policy until just recently. I wonder how many years they were contributing.

Heywood J

(2,515 posts)
23. Sorry, Cat. Too little, too late.
Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:45 AM
Jun 2013

No longer supporting bigotry like they used to does not make up for shafting hundreds of families while the executives rake in more and more bonuses.

Plant is Closed - Thanks Cat.

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