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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:27 PM Jun 2013

what's a little more war? here's the syria plan:

A U.S. military proposal for arming Syrian rebels also calls for a limited no-fly zone inside Syria that would be enforced from Jordanian territory to protect Syrian refugees and rebels who would train there, according to U.S. officials.

Asked by the White House to develop options for Syria, military planners have said that creating an area to train and equip rebel forces would require keeping Syrian aircraft well away from the Jordanian border.

To do that, the military envisages creating a no-fly zone stretching up to 25 miles into Syria which would be enforced using aircraft flown from Jordanian bases and flying inside the kingdom, according to U.S. officials.

The White House is currently considering proposals to arm the rebels in Jordan, according to U.S. officials. White House National Security Council spokeswoman Caitlin Hayden declined to comment on the details of those deliberations.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323734304578543761501124132.html

Fuck the war mongers.

Fuck the war enablers

and

fuck the war profiteers

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what's a little more war? here's the syria plan: (Original Post) cali Jun 2013 OP
What you said! Want to get even madder? Catherina Jun 2013 #1
Excellent and informative post. Thank you. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #2

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
1. What you said! Want to get even madder?
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jun 2013

Read this:

June 13, 2013
Who Killed the Syrian Peace Talks?
by Shamus Cooke

...

The peace talks are dead because the U.S.-backed rebels are boycotting the negotiations, ruining any hope for peace, while threatening to turn an already-tragic disaster into a Yugoslavia-style catastrophe...or worse.

The U.S. backed rebels are not participating in the talks because they have nothing to gain from them, and everything to lose.

...

The U.S.-backed rebels would be entering peace talks broken and beaten, having been debilitated on the battlefield. The Syrian army has had a string of victories, pushing the rebels back to the border areas where they are protected by U.S. allies Turkey, Jordan, and northern Lebanon. Peace talks would merely expose this reality and end the war on terms dictated by the Syrian government.

A rebel leader was quoted in The New York Times revealing this motive for the rebel's abandonment of peace talks:

“What can we (rebels) ask for when we go very weak to Geneva (for peace talks)?... The Russians and the Iranians and the representatives of the (Syrian) regime will say: ‘You don’t have any power. We are controlling everything. What you are coming to ask for?’”

...

Read the whole thing here https://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/06/13-0 if you have the fortitude today



Fuck the war mongers.

Fuck the war enablers

and

fuck the war profiteers

This is an excerpt of Gen. Wesley Clark in a Democracy Now interview with Amy Goodman:

GEN. WESLEY CLARK: I knew why, because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, "Sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second." I said, "Well, you're too busy." He said, "No, no." He says, "We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq." This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do." So I said, "Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?" He said, "No, no." He says, "There's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq." He said, "I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments." And he said, "I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail."

So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, "I just got this down from upstairs" -- meaning the Secretary of Defense's office -- "today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran." I said, "Is it classified?" He said, "Yes, sir." I said, "Well, don't show it to me." And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, "You remember that?" He said, "Sir, I didn't show you that memo! I didn't show it to you!"

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