Bernie Sanders nails it again...

[Playinghardball]

[theplanfor2016]

1. Bernie is always entertaining.

I wish more people listened to him.

[hrmjustin]

2. Welcome to DU my friend!

[theplanfor2016]

4. Thank you!

I have been a avid reader of DU for many years now, and I have tried posting before under an old screen name a few times, but it was never well-received. So, I am now going to participate under the name of a movement I am a part of. I hope this effort goes a bit better. Thanks again!

[grahamhgreen]

33. Funny thing is, the majority do hold his beliefs!

It's the powers that be that refuse to listen....

[L0oniX]

3. He is the kind of representative that is so desperately needed.

[JDPriestly]

5. K&R.

We may be the most corrupt nation the world has every known.

It's very sad, but I am beginning to think so. I would not have said that in the 1950s yet. But now . . . . .

[Fuddnik]

14. And we have plenty of propaganda to convince us otherwise.

Those of us who've been around a while understand.

We need another 500 Bernies in Congress.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

17. You're exactly right, JDPriestly.

It's sad to say.

[Enthusiast]

28. Might as well say it.

Because it's true.

[RKP5637]

32. Many of the politicians in office belong no place near a govermental

position with power. They have often wormed their way into office for $$$$$, power and fame and to do the bidding of their corrupt supporters and/or warped ideologues. This is possibly the most propagandized nation ever. And what is amazing, so many support politicians that will do the most harm to them. It seems the Stockholm syndrome works quite well for many when they go to vote.

[DeSwiss]

6. And you can't ''un-rotten'' an apple.

- K&R

[zeemike]

8. But you can take the sead and grow a new tree.

Democracy needs to be re generated.

[DeSwiss]

10. Which is exactly what we will have to do.

- Making certain not the bring any contamination with us to the new fields......

[zeemike]

13. Yep

Watch for contamination.

[xiamiam]

11. it is what occupy tried to do and we saw them brutalized..nt

[zeemike]

12. Not every sead sprouts, and some are stept on by anamils.

So you plant it again...to continue the metaphore.

[RKP5637]

35. And TPTB claim there was no coordinated effort to suppress OWS.

That, is pure bullshit. The militarized force was coordinated and the smear campaign with disinformation was well coordinated, to influence the perpetual DUH crowd, the lambs and lemmings, and the 'deer in the headlight' crowd.

[Cobalt-60]

26. If we cut out the spoiled parts..

You know, republicans and their sympathizers, it might be possible to save part of it.

[DeSwiss]

27. Sorry. Won't work.

The spores of decay lie within the system itself. A system which touts justice but honors avarice and corruption cannot be redeemed. A paradigm shift is required at this point. The spiral is completing this cycle and the only place left is complete police state.

You don't put new wine into old skins......

[Cobalt-60]

47. Im sure you're right

I just wish I could think of a way out that didn't involve fire and steel.

[DeSwiss]

49. Don't fight it, unplug from it....

- The system is nothing without us.

[Cha]

7. Ya think.

[Savannahmann]

9. Gotta love it

[vt_native]

15. Bernie supports basing the F-35 in South Burlington, VT

which will render 3000 (low income) homes incompatible with residential use. The F-35 is four times as loud as the F-16's which currently lower our standard of living in Chittenden County, Vermont. It will damage your hearing if you happen to be outside when it flies overhead.

The scoring data in the base selection process was "fudged" to favor South Burlington, VT to Satisfy Pat Leahy, per the Boston Globe's Brian Bender. A lawsuit has been filed to compel release of the scoring sheets. A phone call from Sen Leahy or Sanders would have them released in a day.

I am a former long time Bernie supporter and am broken-hearted by this. If Bernie was serious about helping people he would object, with his full voice, to the F-35 program, which is now projected to cost 1.5 trillion (and rising) over the next fifty years.

Bernie is helping turn the cute little city of Winooski, Vermont into a "sacrifice zone".

Bernie is full of shit.

stopthef35.com

[Fantastic Anarchist]

18. Sorry, I'm going to have to see evidence for this ...

... and in context of what he's doing.

It's irresponsible alleging things without providing sources to prove your argument.

[totodeinhere]

20. Here

http://7d.blogs.com/offmessage/2013/06/morning-read-harpers-takes-on-burlington-f-35-basing.html

[Fantastic Anarchist]

21. Well, that's a blog and there's no context as to why ...

... so, I did a quick google and found this from his website:

F-35s "A little irony here" is how Stewart Ledbetter described Republican John MacGovern opposing and Sen. Sanders supporting F-35s at the Vermont Air National Guard. The host of "Vermont This Week" on Vermont Public Television remarked on "the irony of a conservative, Dartmouth, blue blood, pro-Pentagon Senate candidate opposing the F-35 when everybody else - Bernie Sanders, the guy who hates defense spending ... unless it relates to the Vermont National Guard - the irony was a little ..." "Hilarious," interjected Paul Heintz of Seven Days. Mark Johnson of WDEV said Sanders' stand on the F-35s is consistent with is opposition years ago to efforts by demonstrators to shut down a GE plant in Burlington. "He was very strong against that peace community and very much stood with the union workers."

(emphasis added)

Now, I am a little bothered by this, but pales in comparison to what the previous poster was alleging. And with some context, it doesn't appear to be of the magnitude or the maliciousness with which the previous poster implied.

Edit to add link: http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=f498cca8-0a05-4926-b55c-ed45118e86a9

[Catherina]

30. Damn it. I really hate to do this because I almost jumped on that poster too

https://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=bernie+sanders+f+35

I had no idea until now. I'm not happy either. Check your inbox in a few minutes too.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

37. Just checked and replied.

Thank you, Catherina.

[rhett o rick]

23. Sorry but your post smells worse than Denmark in the summer. nm

[Enthusiast]

29. Worse than an Appalachian outhouse in August.

[vt_native]

31. I live here

I'm real, and all I have said is that Bernie supports this horrifically unjust plan, betraying his legacy of supporting affordable housing and economic justice issues.

I understand that people who don't have to deal with this issue might not want to consider the implications, although, the F-35 is such an expensive plane (1.5 trillion dollars over the life of the program) and so unnecessary, and so underperforming, everyone should be against it.

www.stopthef35.com

[Fantastic Anarchist]

38. Thanks for bring that to my attention.

I had no idea.

I don't think Bernie Sanders is a bad guy, still, this is quite deflating.

[cali]

42. I live here too, and you're nothing but a spammer.

[vt_native]

43. No, I am a vegetarian

But you have a nice day.

I never would have guessed that 144 posts makes me a spammer.

[rhett o rick]

24. Show us a quote from Sen Sanders plez. nm

[sheshe2]

16. K&R!

[SunSeeker]

19. K & R

[Mnemosyne]

22. K&R nt

[chknltl]

25. Interesting bit of DU trivia:

A few years back a fellow DUer ran a DU poll asking who your favorite Congressperson was.

The person who won that poll was Senator Bernie Sanders. Senator Sanders is an Independent, not a Democrat.

Remarkably here in the Democratic Underground, this Independent Senator won that poll in a two to one landslide over the rest of the field!

I suspect the good Senator's popularity has diminished around here not in the slightest!

[xtraxritical]

36. Bernie declares himself to be Democratic Socialist.

Yay Bernie!

[Fantastic Anarchist]

39. I like Bernie Sanders, too, but remember:

Democratic Socialist is the same thing as a bourgeois socialist. Not saying that's bad, especially in this country, where anything left of Atilla the Hun is looked at with scorn, but let's keep things in perspective.

[Angelonthesidelines]

41. It sounds like a current poll is apropos

Alan Grayson would get my vote.

[SidDithers]

34. DU rec...nt

Sid

[DirtyDawg]

40. Once again...

...I say, the only way out of the sorry-ass mess we're in is public financing of campaigns, strict curtailment of the amount, and duration, of campaign advertising, and most importantly, the total elimination of all campaign/political contributions. Maybe then we'll find out who the real crooked Pols are instead of confusing stealing with legalized bribery.

[Amonester]

44. Yes, of course, but the problem is, the votes for that would need to come from...

the real crooked pols themselves (in the current system).

Hope real democratic candidates committed to do that urgent change can be found first, and elected next.

That's all what's left to hope for.

[840high]

45. Bernie! k/r

[WillyT]

46. HUGE K & R !!!

[newmember]

48. Again ?

he nails every time