Bill and Hillary Clinton haters

[DainBramaged]

[Cooley Hurd]

1. NAFTA, DOMA, CFMA...

Are you tacitly in favor of these?

I voted for the Big Dog 2x.

I voted for Hillary as my Senator 2x.

But I refuse to just say they did everything right... because they did not.

[BeyondGeography]

3. There is no legitimate criticism of the Clintons

Only hatred.

Maybe this is just another one of those list threads designed to root out all teh haterz and build ignore files.

[Cooley Hurd]

4. I'm finding that more and more are putting me on ignore...

Is it because my asshole quotient has risen? No, it's because I've become more disgusted by the US Government's actions - and flabbergasted by those WHOM I VOTED FOR's inability to stop this crazy train.

[msongs]

8. it is not "inablity" it is deliberate choice making - they are completely able to choose and do not

[Cooley Hurd]

9. ...but that "choice" is fueled by their insecurity.

[asjr]

30. Don't worry about being put on ignore. About half of DU have

me on ignore. But none of us can go back 50 years (except me) and try to change things. Even then it wasn't easy. I try to stand by what I believe unless something happens to educate me otherwise. None of us are perfect and that goes for government. However I can truthfully say there has not been any Republicans since Eisenhower who had the sense of a slug.

[Cha]

35. Thank you, asjr. Excellent response

[asjr]

37. Thank you Cha.

[Chan790]

15. Oh!

I need to volunteer then!

Me me me! I have lots of anti-Clinton criticism so if people are looking for anti-Clinton posters to block, please don't miss me!

[Egalitarian Thug]

39. Hahahaha. I get the last laugh since almost all of the worst of them have me on ignore, now,

they can't see what I write about them and I'm free to expose their idiocy to those that either agree or the many, many more that simply lurk and make their own judgements based on content, rather than gang affiliation.

No longer do I have to read "The President is just so dreamy.", "You're a racist!", "Would you rather have Rmoney?", "Listen to my radio show.", ad infinitum.

I can go right into their threads and call out their foolishness without their ever being the wiser.

[DainBramaged]

5. So you'll hate him the rest of his life for those?

How sad for you how sad.


Your implying I am "tacitly in favor of these" is simply ignorant.


Have a nice life, you want to be put on ignore you got it.


PS


as is ALWAYS the case, the clowns try to get the last word. In the end, long after your hating ass is gone from here, I'll still be voting Democratic and defending ALL Democrats from the tools of the Right.

[Cooley Hurd]

6. I hate no one - hate is energy wasted...

Well, your OP implies strongly that if you criticize either Bill or Hillary, you are a "hater", which also implies that you cannot handle criticism of either.

As far as "ignore" goes... are you THAT insecure of your beliefs that you cannot handle ANY criticism of your belief structure, so you must put those who challenge it on "ignore"?

Wow. You are SO not suited for internet discussion.

For the record, I have no one on "ignore" since I have no insecurities regarding my ability to discuss issues with others.

How sad for YOU. Enjoy your stay, friend. You will be talking to yourself before too long.

(Too bad you put me on ignore, because I just made an ass of you).

[CokeMachine]

10. +1000 for your comments. Nothing personal to DB!! nt

[Cooley Hurd]

12. Me neither!

I've rather enjoyed DB's posts over the years, but if they're THAT uncomfortable with dissent, well... what can one do?

[CokeMachine]

19. Yep -- Have a great Weekend!!

Edit: spelling

[Cooley Hurd]

14. Because I'm not a single-issue voter...

...and Bob Dole offered nothing as an alternative.

Welcome to DU!

[dipsydoodle]

2. Indifference beats hate hands down.

.

[Faux pas]

7. Apathy is even better.

[Whisp]

11. what's not to like...

[markiv]

16. Bill and Hillary created Indian outsorucing of American IT Jobs

anyone want to disput that, be prepared for a mountain of evidence

[markiv]

18. hillary and H-1b

[markiv]

20. hillary brought indian outsorucer tata to NY

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/08/25/239984/-Hillary-Clinton-to-Buffalo-Let-Them-Eat-Jobs

.
Tata Consultancy Services or TCS, an Indian corporation, bills itself as "the world leading information technology consulting services, and business process outsourcing organization." In 2003 Mrs. Clinton pulled out all the stops to bring Tata to Buffalo where it has created a grand total of 10 jobs. Tata's website boasts that the deal was the "brainchild of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY)." In fact, Mrs. Clinton took great pride in having lured an outsourcing company to Buffalo. (see http://www.tcs.com/... and http://www.tcs.com/...)


"When I learned of Tata Consultancy Services' intentions to expand its company, I thought immediately of Buffalo and dedicated myself to showing the company all that the region had to offer, " Senator Clinton said. "TCS could have located anywhere in the country. I am proud but not surprised that they chose Buffalo."

[markiv]

22. Hillary assures India outsourcing will continue

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4919403

Hillary Clinton woos India
Mar 1, 2005

---snip---

Hillary clears outsourcing air

Hillary Clinton made it apparent where she stood on outsourcing during her India visit, in an attempt perhaps to clear the Indian misgivings received during the Kerry campaign. "There is no way to legislate against reality. Outsourcing will continue," she told an audience of Indian big-wigs. She pointed out that there were 3 billion people who feel left behind and are trying to attack the modern world in the hope of turning the clock back on globalization. "It is not far-fetched to imagine ... if the Indian miracle would be the one of choice of those who feel left behind," said Hillary.

Hillary has been at the forefront in defending free trade and outsourcing. During the height of the anti-outsourcing backlash in the US last year, she faced considerable flak for defending Indian software giant Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) for opening a center in Buffalo, New York. "We are not against all outsourcing; we are not in favor of putting up fences," Hillary said firmly, despite inevitably invoking the ire of the anti-free trade brigade.

[markiv]

23. Hillary intriduced herself as the 'Senator from Punjab'

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2007/06/dpunjab_funny_d.html

warchest:

At the fundraiser hosted by Dr Rajwant Singh at his Potomac, Maryland, home, and which raised nearly $50,000 for her re-election campaign, Clinton began by joking that, 'I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily,' after being introduced by Singh as the Senator not only from New York but also Punjab.

[markiv]

24. Bill signed 2 massive H-1b visa increases in 1998 and 2000

1998 - from 65 to 115 thousand per year


2000 - increased to the absolutely devestating 195,000 per year

[markiv]

25. bill signed NAFTA and MFN-China, that pretty much finished off US manufacturing workers nt

[markiv]

29. a day in the life of Bill and Hillary's utopia

Death of Kevin FlanaganFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search Kevin Flanagan was a computer programmer who worked for The Bank of America in Concord, California, USA and committed suicide by gunshot in the parking lot of the business.

Background[edit]Flanagan shot himself to death in the parking lot of Bank of America's Concord Technology Center after he and colleagues were laid off in April 2003.The lay-offs were due to the company's plan to replace many IT employees with foreign Indian H1B workers at lower pay. The company had informed the laid-off employees they would be required to train their replacements for the remainder of their tenure.[1]

The Concord bank office has been the site of multiple protests over work practices.[2] In 2008 this site was put up for sale by BofA.[3]

[Whisp]

32. at lower pay...

Clinton 1:
The lay-offs were due to the company's plan to replace many IT employees with foreign Indian H1B workers at lower pay. The company had informed the laid-off employees they would be required to train their replacements for the remainder of their tenure.

tag team to:

Clinton 2: just very recent, can't find a link.
"America's Wages are now on Parity Globally so this is an Excellent time for Manufacturing Surge in the USA due to "Private/Public Partnerships" where Private get a Tax Break to bring home their Tax Dodges abroad and can get at least a 6% investment for Private/Public Partnerships." He said...in return we will "REVISE OUR TAX CODE."

[DainBramaged]

34. Hmmm, awful lot of bile for the Clinton's for such a fresh face here....

I know the RNC is already trying to start fires under the white male population of the South to incite their hatred for this strong woman, but you re doing a heck of a job right here.


Thanks for the heads up on Hillary, I'd never know how bad she was for America. Maybe we should vote for Christie in 2016??

[markiv]

36. when you cant dispute the evidence, insinuate the motive

seems to be your MO

a very cowardly attack, on your part

and in fairness to the Clintons, I dont think they would endorse such a lightweight tactic

[DainBramaged]

40. Whatever you'd like to think about me is just peachy keen fine markiv, peachy keen fine

I think your motives are suspect. I don't have to dispute shit from Shinola, all I have to do is note your abject hatred for the Clintons, and I did a fine fine job of that.


How did you know what my MMO is in such a very short stay here? You have NO idea who I am, or as a matter of fact, you probably do do what's do do for you you.

Have a nice life.

[markiv]

43. 'How did you know what my MMO is?'

i think it's pretty clear from what you wrote

and my objections to teh Clinton's record is pretty clear, I noticed you didnt dispute the facts or relevance of ANY of it

[DainBramaged]

46. I can think of lots of words for you, and you can't make lemonade from lemons try as you might

I don't have to dispute shit, period. This thread is perfect for folks like yourselves to let us know what wonderful Progressives you are because you profess abject hatred of Bill and Hilary. And since yo let the Cristy question slide, I think I know where you're coming from anyway.

You stated you hate the Clintons, fine with me pal.


Now run along and spew more in another thread, I've got shit to do and it's not playing with you.

Buh Bye.


PS no edits, no checking with my friends, just words for you to decipher.

[markiv]

48. where did I say I support Cristy or hate Clintons?!?!

all I put forth, is the Clinton's record, which I dont think much of

and again, I point out that you still cant argue the facts or relevance of any of it - you just try to fling unsupported inuendo

[bike man]

49. You must have struck a nerve. You got a 'buh bye' and a 'have a nice life' in the same thread. nt

[markiv]

50. i think that makes a catagory 5 hissy fit nt

[markiv]

55. all I did, was mention the millions of economic 'unpersons'

made so by this ambitious couple - that's your definition of 'bile'

and there are too many on this site who are far more concerned about the image of their 'idols', than the overall health of the citizens they supposedly 'represent'

Kevin Falanagan, the computer programmer who became despondent after being forced to train his indian H-1b replacement, in the program that Clinton massively expanded, is just an 'unperson' to you

you are offended that i dare mention this 'unperson' because it's not good for the image of your idol, that, in your book, is a 'hater'

Unperson

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In the George Orwell book Nineteen Eighty-Four, an Unperson is someone who has been vaporized. Vaporization is when a person is murdered by being turned into vapors. Not only has an unperson been killed; they have also been erased from society, the present, the universe, and existence. Such a person would be taken out of books, photographs, and articles so that no trace of them is found in the present anywhere – no record of them would be found. The point of this was that such a person would be gone from all citizens' memories, even friends and family. There is no Newspeak word for what happened to unpeople, therefore it is thoughtcrime to say an unperson's name or think of unpeople

[backwoodsbob]

17. wargle blem hehe mirehumiegonno

blah blah..murgle simp simp scrattie

[DainBramaged]

44. Spending too much tme in the woods, Bob?

[Major Hogwash]

47. Hahaha hahaha!

Well, it wasn't much of an answer, after all.

[backwoodsbob]

54. it made about as much sense

as most of what has gone on the last few days

[Comrade Grumpy]

26. I don't waste my energy hating the Clintons; I just wish they would go away.

[cantbeserious]

27. Don't Hate Them - Don't Like Them - Understand That As A Team They Are Republican Lite, Not Liberals

eom

[JimDandy]

33. Exactly. n/t

[TheKentuckian]

28. I don't know them, I'm not keen on their politics though, not at all.

I think their wing of the party is toxic, I think all their technocratic hacks are cancerous but hate isn't really at issue. I don't find them beneficial, there is a vast difference.

[DonCoquixote]

31. If they would change

I would be as enthusiastic about them as when I voted for them. If they put Glass-Steagall back, or promised to kill Keystone DEAD, I would sing Hallelujahs.

[Taverner]

38. Hillary. Sure. Why not.

Knock yourself out

[Agony]

41. They CHOOSE to be neoliberals, I didn't force them. don't blame me.

they aren't all the way to bad on the good/bad continuum and it isn't a matter of hate. I am tired of having to support politicians who are good on social issues and BAD on the fundamentals.

[markiv]

51. 'neoliberals'

that is precisely what they are

and neoliberalism was actually started by Reagan

[Egalitarian Thug]

42. Well I've met them, Have you?

I went from near- zealot, and was "honored" by Bill and his campaign for my efforts on his behalf in GA during the '92 campaign, to seriously considering voting for Dole in '96 (I didn't, just couldn't make that leap no matter how bad he was).

He's a backstabbing, lying POS (IOW, a politician), and the only problem I have with his blowjob is Monica's appalling lack of taste. He's the enabling link between 41 and shrub.

Without "the big dog", shrub would have been limited to tax cuts and pretending to support abortion bans. Try to keep that in mind while you're down there on your knees.

[bike man]

45. Perhaps this is an instance of "misremembering", similar to the story of

taking ground fire when landing in Bosnia, or the good one "I did not have sex with that woman".

Not EVERYTHING they did - together or separately - has been totally good. Some will remember the not so good, and dislike them for it.

[rurallib]

52. I withhold the right to be critical of any elected leader

due to policy. It is an American right.
Obama has much to criticize as does Bill Clinton. Hillary doesn't seem too far policy-wise from those two.
This certainly does not mean I am a Republican by any means.

[whistler162]

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