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(8,155 posts)
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:43 PM Jun 2013

Is it acceptable for Gitmo detainees to attack their kidnappers?

This is an interesting issue.

If they are being falsely imprisoned, then it would seem logical that they have the right, legally and ethically, to fight off their captors. It would also seem to be the case that the guards and doctors who operate at the camp should be considered wanted criminals unless we are now going to argue, like those under the Third Reich, that they are merely following orders.

On edit: I also think that any lawmakers who support the continued existence of the camp should be tried as accomplices and should be charged with negligent homicide for each person who has died or will died while in custody.

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NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. Oh, I don't know if I agree with that. Interestingly, however....
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jun 2013

From the subject line alone I thought, "perhaps we could compare Gitmo to Auschwitz", but then thought, "No, that would be a bit extreme, not a fair comparison at all."

And then I read the body of your post and thought, "well, you sort of already went there."

I don't happen to think that comparing Gitmo in 2013 and Nazi camps in the early 40's is likely to lead to productive discussion.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

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(8,155 posts)
4. I think you should read what Godwin's law actually means.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:06 PM
Jun 2013

You already know what to look up.

It is merely a statement of probability.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. Yup.
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:27 PM
Jun 2013

And, apparently, anyone who disagrees with the poster, who voted for or works at Gitmo = war criminals.

Like I said, Godwin's Law in one stroke!

 

Rod Walker

(187 posts)
5. Is it acceptable for someone who is falsely imprisoned for (just for instance) embezzlement
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:09 PM
Jun 2013

to attack his captors? Suppose someone was able to prove without a shadow of a doubt that they were innocent of such a crime. Were they to assault their prison guards in an escape attempt, how sympathetic do you think the courts would be?

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
9. Certainly the 80 or more imprisoned after being found "not chargeable" have the moral
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:32 PM
Jun 2013

Right to free themselves by any means necessary. That is why they have chosen to starve themselves to death. It is the only means they have to escape.

 

Monkie

(1,301 posts)
11. it is US federal law that a war crime resulting in death is a capital offense
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:44 PM
Jun 2013

so if it was a war crime as defined in the geneva convention or its additional protocols to rendition these people, torture some of them, hold them without charge, and anyone died during this process, then the people responsible could in theory be executed.

i would like to note that i am against the death penalty.

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