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WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 10:33 AM Jun 2013

You, Terrorist



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You, Terrorist
By William Rivers Pitt
Truthout | Op-Ed

Wednesday 19 June 2013

The Keystone XL pipeline is not a disaster waiting to happen. It is a whole pile of disasters waiting to happen. Expected to run from the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin in Alberta through more than half a dozen American states and down to the Gulf shore of Texas, the pipeline is already riddled with problems before it has even approached completion.

The extraction of tar sands oil, for openers, causes far more greenhouse emissions than conventional oil extraction. Then there is the problem of the corrosiveness of the extracted oil affecting the pipeline itself; corrosive tar sands oil ate through a pipeline in 2010, causing nearly a million gallons of oil to pour into the Kalamazoo River. Another corrosion-caused spill dumped 40,000 gallons in Illinois in 2012.

Tar sands oil is almost impossible to clean up; three years and $1 billion later, 38 miles of the Kalamazoo River remain utterly devastated by the 2010 spill. Should a spill enter one of the aquifers that dot the planned path of the pipeline, millions of people would lose their drinking water. The pipeline plan also crosses a seismic zone, as well as a large swath of Tornado Alley in America...but earthquakes and tornadoes never do any damage, right? Especially not to something almost 75% completed that has already fallen into deadly disrepute thanks to all the "construction anomalies" revealed recently by mandatory testing.

Given the serial perils posed by the Keystone XL pipeline, large numbers of American people have stepped forward in protest. They have demonstrated both in affected states and in Washington DC, they have spoken up at public meetings, and they have created online videos to spread their message. Some have taken to acts of civil disobedience, such as locking themselves to equipment and blocking the paths of construction. Every action taken has been peaceful and non-violent.

And for their efforts, they have been labeled as terrorists: http://www.omaha.com/article/20130617/NEWS/130619686/1685#company-terror-laws-may-apply-to-keystone-xl-pipeline-foes

(snip)

The recent revelations about the NSA's far-reaching program of domestic surveillance have been met with an astonishing lack of outrage from the American people. A combination of "I'm not doing anything wrong, so why should I worry?" and "We've known this was going on for years" has led to a big national shrug over the matter.

If the rise in local, state and federal government's willingness to act on behalf of major corporations by labeling lawful American citizens as terrorists does not shake people out of their lethargy, then we deserve everything we are certainly going to get.

Need a reason to worry about the NSA spying scandal? Try this: you legally protest an oil company in your town, are arrested, and wind up in court facing federal terrorism charges and a personal eternity behind bars. The evidence presented against you was gathered by NSA monitoring of your telephone usage and social media communications, all at the behest of said oil company, which owns every Senator who sits on the Intelligence Committee in Washington DC.

Think it can't happen?

It is already happening.

The rest: http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/17068-you-terrorist
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You, Terrorist (Original Post) WilliamPitt Jun 2013 OP
This is too creepy. ananda Jun 2013 #1
IMHO, This is one of your most important pieces ever.... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #2
Convenient for when the cheese really begins to bind, no? hatrack Jun 2013 #3
Yes, I'm afraid that's what it's about. nt freedom fighter jh Jun 2013 #42
But but but... JOBS and uhhhm... OIL INDEPENDENCE. progressoid Jun 2013 #4
Thank you for posting this. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #5
rec'd.... mike_c Jun 2013 #6
The question I have in regards to glinda Jun 2013 #7
If the President of the United States is not aware of what his sigint agency is doing WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #8
Apparently the NSA is not informing him. L0oniX Jun 2013 #10
great, now im being monitored thanks to your assistance and material support Monkie Jun 2013 #15
President Obama is easily one of the most intelligent people on this planet tavalon Jun 2013 #12
He says rather assuredly that the NSA is not listening to calls or breaking any laws. kentuck Jun 2013 #23
Agreed. He cannot be everywhere and know everything. I think it would be easy glinda Jun 2013 #39
Because all those Republicans he appoints would never lie to him BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #52
+1 glinda Jun 2013 #67
I am terrorised by this post. You are a terrorist now. L0oniX Jun 2013 #9
Local governments are doing it too--not just the feds. MindPilot Jun 2013 #11
is that you, Doremus Jessup? antigop Jun 2013 #13
You called? Doremus Jun 2013 #24
Oh, William, I love how you blow things up out of proportion... Safetykitten Jun 2013 #14
wonder how many Americans are in Federal prisons, where they used the anti-terror laws to jail them? Sunlei Jun 2013 #16
Some of us had the foresight to know it would come to this.... Avalux Jun 2013 #17
That second sentence... ReRe Jun 2013 #58
Thanks for this important post!!! K&R!! hue Jun 2013 #18
Civil Disobedience == Terrorism. It's coming, if not here already. yodermon Jun 2013 #19
Ahem. Maedhros Jun 2013 #26
The Keystone disaster, continuing in slow motion Hydra Jun 2013 #20
I want to see a source other than Trans-Canada officials Gore1FL Jun 2013 #21
Yep. Bill McKibben: Scary terrorist masquerading as a mild mannered Middlebury Prof cali Jun 2013 #22
The fiendish cunning - what an amazing disguise!!! hatrack Jun 2013 #29
Thanks and a huge frackin' K&R. nt Zorra Jun 2013 #25
It's not that we're apathetic lunatica Jun 2013 #27
Excellent Berlum Jun 2013 #28
No. zappaman Jun 2013 #30
Yes, it is already happening, it's happening to at least three OWS protesters and the sad thing is sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #31
Important info--I just posted to my FB page. Here's what I wrote: h2ebits Jun 2013 #32
you posted it on NSA/FB but are scared of foreigners? Monkie Jun 2013 #62
I wonder if this is already being used against First Nations And U.S tribes since they have joined suffragette Jun 2013 #33
K&R It's happening and being presided over by a so-called Democratic president. forestpath Jun 2013 #34
You recall that the NSA cannot 'monitor' Americans on American soil, right? randome Jun 2013 #35
You're a trusting soul. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #36
K & R. Keep posting the truth. chimpymustgo Jun 2013 #37
of course it can, and has. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #56
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #38
someone should tell Obama about this! warrprayer Jun 2013 #40
Just in case people missed it: now happening in Turkey BelgianMadCow Jun 2013 #41
Channeling the movie scene from "Annie Hall, these famous wise men pacalo Jun 2013 #43
Where's the picture of President Obama? Enthusiast Jun 2013 #51
Enthusiast, I believe Obama is a man of superior qualities in many ways pacalo Jun 2013 #54
Pacalo, I didn't think I needed the Enthusiast Jun 2013 #61
... pacalo Jun 2013 #63
The picture of Lincoln is hilarious davidpdx Jun 2013 #53
I aim to please! pacalo Jun 2013 #55
Needs to be an OP ReRe Jun 2013 #59
If life were only like this... pacalo Jun 2013 #64
I have seen the enemy. And he is us. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #44
Great Post and I think this is the REAL REASON for the whole program... rwsanders Jun 2013 #45
Words don't terrorize (adult) people, but criminal actions may. Amonester Jun 2013 #46
I never thought you were a tin-foil-hat conspiracy theorist jazzimov Jun 2013 #47
er, what?? NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #60
Thanks for this! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #48
Who Would you rather BE? BillyRibs Jun 2013 #49
Thank you, WilliamPitt! Enthusiast Jun 2013 #50
CSA: Corporate States of America ReRe Jun 2013 #57
Does this ctsnowman Jun 2013 #65
Usually I agree with what you say Progressive dog Jun 2013 #66

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
3. Convenient for when the cheese really begins to bind, no?
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 10:38 AM
Jun 2013

As in, what happens when crops fail, storms clock major metros and groundwater depletion depopulates entire cities and regions?

Well, people tend to be desperate and pissed off. In fact, they might even demand changes - and we can't have that, now can we?

Better by far to have the mechanisms of officially sanctioned repression on the shelf and ready to go. You know, just in case.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
7. The question I have in regards to
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:12 AM
Jun 2013

a lot of things going on is "Does Obama actually know about this stuffs or is he totally oblivious/un-informed to these actions". The Government is a massive machine. It is our of control due to the control built into it by Corporations, war mongers and self serving individuals.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
8. If the President of the United States is not aware of what his sigint agency is doing
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:15 AM
Jun 2013

he should seek employment elsewhere.

 

Monkie

(1,301 posts)
15. great, now im being monitored thanks to your assistance and material support
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:45 AM
Jun 2013

of these terrorists.
could you please in future warn us in the title of the threads you post so we dont accidentally read what you say and become suspects.

tavalon

(27,985 posts)
12. President Obama is easily one of the most intelligent people on this planet
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:35 AM
Jun 2013

If he is unaware of whose water he's carrying, he needs to be fired. He is not unaware.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
23. He says rather assuredly that the NSA is not listening to calls or breaking any laws.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 12:39 PM
Jun 2013

I don't think the President is a dishonest man. But I do think he is being deceived by our intelligence organizations. He is in an impossible situation. He will choose to defend the country if "they" tell him it is necessary. He will take their word for it.

glinda

(14,807 posts)
39. Agreed. He cannot be everywhere and know everything. I think it would be easy
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 06:53 PM
Jun 2013

to manage "behind" a President's back. Our Government and Country is soooo fucked.
I think there is a Conservative component on "ground/community" level also that are using Funds to do their own agenda. Like at our two "so called training facilities" that glob together military with police, fire fighters, and many others.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
52. Because all those Republicans he appoints would never lie to him
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:49 AM
Jun 2013

One of the smartest people on the planet? Perhaps in the political realm, or marketing *cough*, or campaigning. But I'm sure there are some bighead thinkers who could give him a run for his money.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
11. Local governments are doing it too--not just the feds.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:23 AM
Jun 2013

Here in San Diego, high-speed license-plate readers mounted atop patrol cars and at fixed locations are constantly collecting photos, correlating the plate number with time and location information and storing the the data. There have been a couple of lawsuits in California about license plate data collection.

One of your best pieces Will, and I too am absolutely gobsmacked at the prevailing attitude of simply accepting this as the new normal. Oh, well.

ETA: privious post, http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023035605

 

Safetykitten

(5,162 posts)
14. Oh, William, I love how you blow things up out of proportion...
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:42 AM
Jun 2013

It's all for our own good. You can't spy on just people that don't agree with your politics, you have to go to the core and spy on EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY that does not believe in our American way of life.

See you at COSTCO!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
16. wonder how many Americans are in Federal prisons, where they used the anti-terror laws to jail them?
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:45 AM
Jun 2013

Know of one where the driver of a car was charged with arson when 2 other people burned down a 100 year old wood slaughterhouse (empty, no humans or animals hurt) The driver was charged under the terror laws, Federal Gov. sent a bunch of lawyers. I think he's still in Federal prison somewhere.

People like him should be charged with crimes under our local courts. An arsonist is not a terrorist.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
17. Some of us had the foresight to know it would come to this....
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:46 AM
Jun 2013

Exercising our right to free speech, legally and peacefully, now makes us terrorists. Or at least makes everyone afraid to speak up, for fear of being labeled a terrorist.

The monstrous and obscene power that is and will be used against us for saying "NO" to our corporate overlords cannot be stopped. We have gone down the rabbit hole.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
58. That second sentence...
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 06:00 AM
Jun 2013

... of yours is the reason PO got a chilly reception in Germany yesterday. They are shocked at what is happening under his watch here in America.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
20. The Keystone disaster, continuing in slow motion
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 12:22 PM
Jun 2013

At least is shows who's in charge...and it's not We the People!

Terrorism charges to back up corporate malfeasance and naked greed.

Down really IS up!

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
21. I want to see a source other than Trans-Canada officials
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 12:31 PM
Jun 2013

tell me what is legal in the United States.

As far as I am aware they are not part of our judiciary. I need to hear this from a judge, not some hired gun from another country. The linked article gave an example where the Sheriff sided with the local:

A landowner told a Trans­Canada employee that he should leave because he didn't have permission to survey there and his cars were parked on the wrong side of the road.

The landowner as well as the TransCanada employees called the sheriff, who arrived and warned TransCanada employees about trespassing and parking on the wrong side of the road. After that, everyone left.


There are points of outrage for both stories. Projecting an intersection of the two based on the yammering of a "TransCanada spokesman" seems premature, IMO.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
27. It's not that we're apathetic
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 01:03 PM
Jun 2013

It's that by the time we know about it it's too late to stop it because it's already a done thing.

In my 65 years I've learned one thing that has never turned out to be false. What becomes public today was set in motion at least 20 years ago and only becomes known to the general public when it's too late to change it. So after a while outrage is just a useless emotion spent for nothing. The thing to do is to find ways of living with it while getting around it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
31. Yes, it is already happening, it's happening to at least three OWS protesters and the sad thing is
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 01:12 PM
Jun 2013

there are actually Democrats who believe they deserve it.

h2ebits

(644 posts)
32. Important info--I just posted to my FB page. Here's what I wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 01:21 PM
Jun 2013

For all of you who believe in our Constitutional rights and have been following (reading) my Facebook posts: tag you're it; you too can now be labeled as a terrorist. Run for the hills or stand up and fight for your country.

Haven't heard about the TPP (Trans Pacific Partnership) the secret document that will allow the transnational corporations to beat up governments around the world to comply with their wishes--er, takeover of the world? Seek answers from your Senators and Congresspeople--they are apparently being kept in the dark also. Alan Grayson is on a tear trying to get the knowledge out to all of us. I posted info about this a couple of days ago.

Read the article attached and think--TransCanada is a foreign company.

 

Monkie

(1,301 posts)
62. you posted it on NSA/FB but are scared of foreigners?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 07:51 AM
Jun 2013

seriously, FB is one of the companies that is voluntarily collaborating with the NSA and you want to point out that transcanada are "evil" foreigners?
the enemy is within, and closer to home than you think, please think about that...

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
33. I wonder if this is already being used against First Nations And U.S tribes since they have joined
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 02:27 PM
Jun 2013

Across national borders against tar sands and Gateway projects.


http://intercontinentalcry.org/international-treaty-to-protect-the-sacred-from-tar-sands-signing-ceremony/

International Treaty to Protect the Sacred from Tar Sands Projects
Signed on January 25th 2013

The representatives from sovereign Indigenous Nations, tribes, and governments, participating in the Gathering to Protect the Sacred on January 23 – 25, 2013, on the 150 year anniversary of the Treaty Between the Pawnee and Yankton Sioux, have gathered on the Ihanktonwan homelands, and have resolved by our free, prior, and informed consent to enter into a treaty to be forever respected and protected. We agreed upon the following articles:


The seven articles agreed to are at the link.

Here are two of them:

Article V

We affirm that our laws define our solemn duty and responsibility to our ancestors, to ourselves, and to future generations, to protect the lands and waters of our homelands and we agree to mutually and collectively oppose tar sands projects which would impact our territories, including but not limited to the TransCanada Keystone XL pipeline, the Enbridge Northern Gateway, Enbridge lines nine (9) and sixty-seven (67), or the Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain pipeline and tanker projects.

Article VI

We agree to mutually and collectively, as sovereign nations, call upon the Canadian and United States governments to respect our decision to reject tar sands projects that impact our sacred sites and homelands; to call upon the Canadian and United States governments to immediately halt and deny approval for pending tar sands projects because they threaten the soil, water, air, sacred sites, and our ways of life; and, confirm that any such approval would violate our ancestral laws, rights and responsibilities.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
35. You recall that the NSA cannot 'monitor' Americans on American soil, right?
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 02:38 PM
Jun 2013

So the article is much ado about nothing.

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BelgianMadCow

(5,379 posts)
41. Just in case people missed it: now happening in Turkey
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jun 2013

Turkey, where any and all people that protest in Taksim square are officially labeled terrorists.
Where the government is raiding activists' homes and arresting them, between 400 and 1000 reported, the last couple of days.

So here we are, terrorists, at least half of DU.

Hi, agent Mike.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
43. Channeling the movie scene from "Annie Hall, these famous wise men
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 09:32 PM
Jun 2013

magically rise from their graves to interject their opinions on the people's right -- & duty -- to protest against tyrannical government decisions:

"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government."
-- Thomas Paine



"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government." -- Patrick Henry



We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. -- Declaration of Independence; Thomas Jefferson




"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men."

"We the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts--not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." -- Abraham Lincoln





pacalo

(24,721 posts)
54. Enthusiast, I believe Obama is a man of superior qualities in many ways
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:44 AM
Jun 2013

& I admire the heck out of him for many reasons.

What those men said hundreds of years ago is ageless, eternal wisdom that should hold up today. If you apply those quotes to issues such as the Patriot Act, corporatism, or whatever stands out for you, would you have put Obama on the same page?

If the topic had been well-regarded (by people who are sane) statesmen, I would have included Obama.

rwsanders

(2,605 posts)
45. Great Post and I think this is the REAL REASON for the whole program...
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 10:31 PM
Jun 2013

I'm mean realistically, it would be far too easy for a group that is planning a real attack to come up with some very simple code words.
For example, "planning a party, is the present ready"
Or "wife is pregnant, the baby is ready to be born"
etc., etc.
Is the computer they are using going to be able to figure that out? No.
Is the computer they are using going to be able to interpret an obscure central Asian language (aren't there 110 in the former soviet nations?). No.
Are all associations or overseas connections able to be tracked to discern a terrorist from someone with a large family?
Sorry, this is all geared toward controlling the population right here in the good ole U.S. of A.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
46. Words don't terrorize (adult) people, but criminal actions may.
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:47 PM
Jun 2013

And that includes issuing threats (words) of committing (violent) criminal actions against physical persons.

If you just use non-violence in your actions, you're NOT terrorists, but peaceful protestors.

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
47. I never thought you were a tin-foil-hat conspiracy theorist
Wed Jun 19, 2013, 11:55 PM
Jun 2013

until now.

Will, I always thought you did your research and presented facts. Maybe you just don't have the time to research since the baby? You are still an excellent writer. But I can't recommend your stuff if it's non-reality based.

anyway, enjoy your new baby!

But if you're gonna write something, please do your homework first. Otherwise, don't write it.

 

BillyRibs

(787 posts)
49. Who Would you rather BE?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 01:33 AM
Jun 2013

A Prisoner in Stalin's mining Gulag, Or a Jew in Hitler's Concentration Camp. Why I ask this is because Most Gulag Prisoners In Stalin's Gulag system Did not Think the Great Comrade Stalin Knew that this was happening to his people. But Every European Jew took it as fact that Hitler Knew about the camps! As for me I would chose to be a Jew, Because after all their was Sobibor!

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
50. Thank you, WilliamPitt!
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 02:07 AM
Jun 2013

Corporate control of this government is the greatest threat the nation has faced since the WWII Fascists.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
57. CSA: Corporate States of America
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 05:49 AM
Jun 2013

K&R

"When is the name of this country going to change? Probably after Congress fast-tracks that TPP Treaty through in the middle of the night. How much you want to wager on the hoopla they will raise at the signing of the "Nafta on Steroids" treaty? They'll invite all the foreign leaders to sign it. There will be fireworks, picnics on the Mall. Corporate laws? That's easy. They will make those up as they go along. You won't even know you've done something wrong, until they show up at your door. The NSC (National Security Corporation) will help them track down those pesky dissenting terrorists. And before we know it, we'll all be under house arrest! And there will be the perception of peace everywhere. The people will not worry, and they will be very happy!"

That's my little sarcastic story for the day. All this NSA & Corporate over-reach makes me wonder about the future. I hope we can wrestle this un-Democracy corruption to the ground before it's too late. Thanks for this column/OP, giving us an idea of what is likely to happen soon.

Edited to correct spelling

Progressive dog

(6,904 posts)
66. Usually I agree with what you say
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 09:53 AM
Jun 2013

This time you seem to have attempted to tie NSA into the Keystone pipeline.
First you say "the pipeline is already riddled with problems before it has even approached completion."
Now this is a true statement since the pipeline has not been approved.
Then you tell all the bad things that have been damaged by the pipeline before writing " Especially not to something almost 75% completed that has already fallen into deadly disrepute thanks to all the "construction anomalies" revealed recently by mandatory testing."

I won't bother disputing your intimation that if TransCanada says they are terrorists, so does the government. I'm assuming we'll know if the protesters are charged as terrorists.
Usually if you are civilly disobeying, the government doesn't need your e-mails to know about it, so I don't see a tie in to the NSA either.







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