Michael Hastings' last article

[Ichingcarpenter]

Why Democrats Love To Spy On Americans



Besides Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall, most Democrats abandoned their civil liberty positions during the age of Obama. With a new leak investigation looming, the Democrat leadership are now being forced to confront all the secrets they’ve tried to hide.



posted on June 7, 2013 at 12:10pm EDT
Michael Hastings



For most bigwig Democrats in Washington, D.C., the last 48 hours has delivered news of the worst kind — a flood of new information that has washed away any lingering doubts about where President Obama and his party stand on civil liberties, full stop.
Glenn Greenwald’s exposure of the NSA’s massive domestic spy program has revealed the entire caste of current Democratic leaders as a gang of civil liberty opportunists, whose true passion, it seems, was in trolling George W. Bush for eight years on matters of national security.
“Everyone should just calm down,” Senator Harry Reid said yesterday, inhaling slowly.


That’s right: don’t panic.

[alsame]

1. Here is the link

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/why-democrats-love-to-spy-on-americans

RIP Michael

[southernyankeebelle]

2. I've come to the conclusion when you lay down with dogs your going to get fleas.

I don't trust any of them yet I know we need some protection for security.

[Malik Agar]

3. I'm no tinfoiler

But that car wreck was no accident...

[still_one]

4. That is tin foil. Sorry. Car accidents really happen

I am now waiting for a post saying Obama ordered it

[sibelian]

6. Well, assassinations do, too, sometimes.

So maybe it's not tinfoil after all.

[Skidmore]

11. So are you making a direct accusation?

[zappaman]

5. And you know this how? n/t

[MelungeonWoman]

26. You insinuate that this is woo,

I should make the same insinuation the next time some cheerleader claims that Obama really, REALLY has our best interests at heart, does not stand with the corporations, and that the spectacular results of his eleventy dimensional chess game is about to become crystal clear.



Woo, indeed.

[zappaman]

28. So you don't know.

Got it.

[MelungeonWoman]

32. I am not the person to whom you directed the question.

I didn't agree or disagree with their statement. What I will say is that it's a sad day when someone dies and a growing measure of people across the country immediately assume their government is to blame.

[zappaman]

33. Sorry about that!

Meant to reply to the statement above yours!
And agree with you wholeheartedly.

[Floyd_Gondolli]

7. What kind of data have you examined?

Were you at the scene and are you privy to the accident report compiled by the LAPD?

I'm curious how one comes to the conclusion it was no accident with such certainty without the benefit of examining pertinent facts.

[HooptieWagon]

10. Car accidents happen.

Its too early to draw conclusions. However, given the nature of his work, and the potential enemies he had, no theory can be excluded from consideration right now.

[SoCalDem]

13. People hit palm trees all the time around here.. Palms are not very yielding trees

Perhaps he fell asleep at the wheel .. Sad for his family.. He was a young guy who lived with war and a tree killed him

[HooptieWagon]

16. Correct, but how many cars burst into flames after hitting a palm tree?

Wrecked cars usually don't burn. And, although it's my understanding that speeding on that road is fairly common, it must have been extremely fast for the car to break in two and fling the engine 50 yards down the road.
Its not tin-foil hattery to not discount any theory until it is positively eliminated.

[SoCalDem]

17. Sometimes they do burn.. and yes, lots of speeding at that time of night happens

Our accident investigators get a lot of practice (sadly) investigating these accidents.. They'll figure out what happened. An autopsy will also determine if he had been drinking (very possible at that hour).

[HooptieWagon]

18. Since the body was badly burned, is a blood alcohol test even possible?

And no, cars don't commonly burst into flames as a result of crash. You're watching too many movies and TV.

[SoCalDem]

21. I have driven past some on the Pomona Freeway in the wee hours on my way to work

the police will sort it all out.

[Malik Agar]

22. Not if the FBI gets there first...

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[geek tragedy]

24. So you're claiming the FBI murdered him?

Why would they do that? Who would have ordered it?

[HooptieWagon]

29. It seems pretty certain he had enemies in military and govt circles.

Being murdered is a possibility, until it has been eliminated.

[geek tragedy]

31. For the CTers, the possibility of murder can never be eliminated.

If he was drunk and behind the wheel, well they could have arranged that as well.

There's no evidence of foul play, much less a government conspiracy.

[struggle4progress]

25. ... LAPD traffic investigators found the motor of the late-model Mercedes-Benz C250 coupe involved

about 100 feet away from the car .. a clue that .. the vehicle was travelling .. more than 60 miles an hour when it .. struck a palm tree ... With the engine torn off the gas lines would rupture ...

Michael Hastings Crash: Car Was Speeding, Engine Flew 100 Feet, Cops Say
By Dennis Romero Wed., Jun. 19 2013 at 4:37 PM

[malaise]

8. Oops!

Thanks bro

[HooptieWagon]

12. Car wreck.

Single car accident on deserted road at 4:30 am. Car broke in half and engulfed in flames.
Too early to jump to conclusions, but unusual circumstances should indicate that no theory be prematurely rejected.

[struggle4progress]

27. Maybe you'd like to speculate also about the following crash a few weeks back:

NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. -- Five people killed in a fiery California crash that split a car in half were believed to be teenagers from the Irvine area, but the coroner was still trying to confirm the identity of one victim ... The Infiniti sedan carrying the five people veered off a road around 5:20 p.m. and hit a tree ...The impact split the car and it caught fire ...
Fiery Southern California crash: Five dead are thought to be teenagers
By Gillian Flaccus
Associated Press
Posted: 05/28/2013 01:12:56 PM PDT
Updated: 05/28/2013 01:15:03 PM PDT


Holy shizz! Yet another car that hit a tree, broke in half, and burst into flames! Nobody could believe that's a coincidence! Do you think we should suspect maybe the car in Newport Beach was taken out by a drone strike?

[bunnies]

30. Obviously the Gov't was behind that one too.

Just to set the precedent for the Hastings "accident". Duh!

[Skidmore]

14. Amazing! Didn't take you but two posts to

start flinging poo.

[arcane1]

15. It was a car accident, actually

A rarity in LA.

[Catherina]

19. "a continuing litany of lies from senior officials" 'The Gang of Eight supported the lies'

“Everyone should just calm down,” Senator Harry Reid said yesterday, inhaling slowly.

"I think that he should be prosecuted" "How on earth can we have a situation where we are so vulnerable, so exposed, with so much information about how we acquire intelligence, to the point that the DNI (director of national intelligence) is saying that it seriously hurt our national security?" fretted Pelosi

"...an act of treason. He violated the oath, he violated the law. That's an act of treason!" said war profiteer Diane Feinstein

A"traitor" who "committed an act of war against the United States," screamed former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton

A traitor! said the Prince of Darkness himself, the eminently corrupt Dick Cheney who made millions off the blood of young American troops and innocent people in his way.

as Edward Snowden calmly, with poise beyond his years, exposes the hypocrisy of these people. When asked what it was that pushed him, his answer is

a continuing litany of lies from senior officials to Congress - and therefore the American people - and the realization that that Congress, specifically **the Gang of Eight**, wholly supported the lies that compelled me to act. Seeing someone in the position of James Clapper - the Director of National Intelligence - baldly lying to the public without repercussion is the evidence of a subverted democracy. The consent of the governed is not consent if it is not informed.

"it's important to bear in mind I'm being called a traitor by men like former Vice President Dick Cheney. This is a man who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of atrocity warm-up on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 Americans, as well as leaving over 100,000 Iraqis dead. Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, Feinstein, and King, the better off we all are. If they had taught a class on how to be the kind of citizen Dick Cheney worries about, I would have finished high school.

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The Gang of Eight

United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence:

Mike Rogers (R): (Chair)
C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger (D): (Ranking member)

United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence:

Dianne Feinstein (D): (Chair)
Saxby Chambliss (R): (Ranking member)

Leadership in theUnited States House of Representatives:

John Boehner (R): (Speaker of the House)
Nancy Pelosi (D): (Minority leader)

Leadership in the United States Senate:

Harry Reid (D): (Majority leader)
Mitch McConnell (R): (Minority leader)

Rec'd

[geek tragedy]

23. Do you care to disavow any implication that the Obama

administration killed Hastings?