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babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:27 PM Jun 2013

Farm bill debacle shows John Boehner needs Nancy Pelosi

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/06/20/farm-bill-debacle-shows-john-boehner-needs-nancy-pelosi/


Farm bill debacle shows John Boehner needs Nancy Pelosi

By Greg Sargent, Published: June 20, 2013 at 3:38 pm


In another embarrassment for House Speaker John Boehner, the farm bill went down to a surprise defeat in the House this afternoon, 195-234. Most Democrats voted against it, because of its deep cuts to food stamps, but what really sealed its fate is that in spite of those cuts, 62 Republicans voted against it, too, apparently because it didn’t cut spending enough.

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“This underscores that Boehner cannot pass bills on his own,” Congressional scholar Norman Ornstein told me in a quick interview today. “He can’t do anything with only Republicans. The real power center in the House is not Boehner. It’s not Cantor. It’s not Ryan. It’s not McCarthy. It’s the extreme right. This shows the real dilemma ahead for a Speaker who is very weak and very conscious of his weakness within the party.”

Interestingly, Ornstein noted that today’s outcome sheds light on the perils ahead for Boehner’s strategy in the immigration debate. Boehner continues to insist that he will not allow a House vote on anything that doesn’t have the support of a majority of House Republicans. But today’s vote, Ornstein says, is a reminder that there may be nothing that can get the support of Senate Dems and the President that can be passed out of the House without a lot of Democrats. At the same time, anything that can get the support of a lot of Democrats probably can’t get support from a majority of House Republicans — which means it wouldn’t get a vote.

Or so Boehner claims, anyway. Ornstein says this problem may leave Boehner with no choice but to “bite the bullet and pass the Senate bill or something very close to it, knowing he’s going to lose a majority of his own party.” The alternative, of course, is passing nothing. But by underscoring House GOP dysfunction, Ornstein notes, today’s outcome may have rendered that option less attractive to House GOP leaders: “You’ve got to believe there will be a little pressure on them to show they can accomplish something.”

Ornstein’s final verdict on today’s display from House Republicans: “They’re pathetic.”
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Farm bill debacle shows John Boehner needs Nancy Pelosi (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2013 OP
I thought Bohner was one of the loons? giftedgirl77 Jun 2013 #1
Farm bill debacle shows John Boehner sucks at his job. FSogol Jun 2013 #2
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
1. I thought Bohner was one of the loons?
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jun 2013

Anywho, let them keep eating their own. I keep hoping a brawl will break out like they do in Asia.

FSogol

(45,520 posts)
2. Farm bill debacle shows John Boehner sucks at his job.
Thu Jun 20, 2013, 04:40 PM
Jun 2013


Love Ornstein's verdict: "House Republicans- They’re pathetic”
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