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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:52 PM Jun 2013

Happy Friday, DUers! Welcome to your Friday Afternoon Challenge: Art in the News, Part II!

More recent art related stories in the news for you to find! What is the news story (not just the name of the works)?

...now, be good DUbies and don’t cheat!

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Happy Friday, DUers! Welcome to your Friday Afternoon Challenge: Art in the News, Part II! (Original Post) CTyankee Jun 2013 OP
Well, I got #2. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #1
I like the polka dots BainsBane Jun 2013 #3
2. Basquiat & 3. Damien Hirst discopants Jun 2013 #11
right, thanks for that. BainsBane Jun 2013 #16
The Basquat "Dustheads" sold as part of a set that sold for a record $495M at auction CTyankee Jun 2013 #28
But that was a month ago! Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #61
I hadn't seen that! I wonder why I missed that...I scour the NYT art section daily... CTyankee Jun 2013 #62
Well, I had to cheat to find it out. But no matter -- I want my money back! Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #63
Of course. I'll give you double your money back! CTyankee Jun 2013 #64
I updated my OP to reflect my real objective here which is what the news story is about... CTyankee Jun 2013 #8
I did too, Bush and Cheney's official portrait. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #57
Sorry, got the numbers confused BainsBane Jun 2013 #2
Yes, but what is the story on these images? CTyankee Jun 2013 #4
Oh BainsBane Jun 2013 #5
#2 is Basquiat, marking the opening the opening of the Broadway play about him. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #7
it is Basquiat, but that isn't the story... CTyankee Jun 2013 #9
Well, his play is opening. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #12
Fine. I cheated and looked up the answer Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #41
Damien Hirst's midrift. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #6
what is the story in the news regarding this photo? CTyankee Jun 2013 #10
Are these pieces part of the Saatchi collection, Nigella and the Strangler and all that? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #13
no. CTyankee Jun 2013 #19
The story's about his studio releasing the number of dot paintings frazzled Jun 2013 #15
Well that's interesting. I had no idea. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #20
Actually, what I was driving at was that he is doing his own catalogue raisonne to deter CTyankee Jun 2013 #21
Oh, it's pretty much about protecting the value frazzled Jun 2013 #32
Yeah, I'd never heard of it but yes, of course, it's understandable that polka dots can and will CTyankee Jun 2013 #35
Five is Van Gogh--The postman or something panader0 Jun 2013 #14
#5 is a Van Gogh that could be sold by Detroit to pay creditors pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #18
good for you! Isn't it good news that they are not considering selling the art to satisfy CTyankee Jun 2013 #22
Indeed, I spent my youth at the Detroit Institute of Arts. longship Jun 2013 #52
that is fabulous! CTyankee Jun 2013 #58
Is four Miro? panader0 Jun 2013 #17
No Miro here (altho I love Miro!). CTyankee Jun 2013 #23
Your weekly contests are one of the best things on DU--thanks panader0 Jun 2013 #24
thanks. I'm sorry if I screwed up the real question on this Challenge...ack... CTyankee Jun 2013 #25
#1 is about flooding in India jberryhill Jun 2013 #26
Hah, gotcha there! No Dutch guy! CTyankee Jun 2013 #30
After months of entering Challenges, eventually jberryhill will be right pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #31
Eventually, he DOES get some "Dutch guys." CTyankee Jun 2013 #33
He painted a lot of stuff jberryhill Jun 2013 #39
did you know that van gogh painted with house paint? I'm not kidding. CTyankee Jun 2013 #44
Was there much difference at that time? surrealAmerican Jun 2013 #47
good point. I really don't know, but when that story came out recently there was a big fuss. CTyankee Jun 2013 #51
number 5 is a dutch guy BainsBane Jun 2013 #45
He must've been a very prolific genius. I see his works EVERYWHERE! pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #54
Second Only To The Greatest Painter Ever jberryhill Jun 2013 #55
Okay, but at least I was right about India! jberryhill Jun 2013 #34
India? Does that look like India to you? If so, you really need glasses... CTyankee Jun 2013 #36
Looks like the picture... jberryhill Jun 2013 #37
that's really interesting! CTyankee Jun 2013 #38
Oh Yeah? jberryhill Jun 2013 #56
LOL! Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #42
#4 horseshoecrab Jun 2013 #27
Great! Really big news for the Metropolitan Museum! Lauder's early Cubist collection is CTyankee Jun 2013 #29
#1 is "Salisbury Cathedral ..." oldhippie Jun 2013 #40
Wonderful, oldhippie! You nailed it! CTyankee Jun 2013 #43
It seems gone; hence, the suggestion of a rainbow. The light "moves" with the cart from left to WinkyDink Jun 2013 #59
I have read that Constable added the rainbow as a note of hope. CTyankee Jun 2013 #60
Here's one for you, CT blm Jun 2013 #46
An extraordinary exploration. Thank you so much for that, I think I had heard of it but had CTyankee Jun 2013 #49
Yes, the actual quality of her artwork and photography should be the larger part of the story blm Jun 2013 #65
#6: Degas bronze cast from "recently discovered" plasters pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #48
Excellent. Isn't this guy something? CTyankee Jun 2013 #50
It would be nice to have something dispositive, either way pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #53

discopants

(535 posts)
11. 2. Basquiat & 3. Damien Hirst
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:09 PM
Jun 2013

Basquiat sold for a bazillion, & contemporary British artist's work going up on billboards around London.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
61. But that was a month ago!
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:37 AM
Jun 2013

This week, Christie's announced that an untitled Basquiate is going up for auction.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
62. I hadn't seen that! I wonder why I missed that...I scour the NYT art section daily...
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:40 AM
Jun 2013

perhaps it happened while I was in London the end of May?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
8. I updated my OP to reflect my real objective here which is what the news story is about...
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:07 PM
Jun 2013

I kinda didn't make that clear at first...my apologies...

BainsBane

(53,041 posts)
2. Sorry, got the numbers confused
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 04:59 PM
Jun 2013

Let me start over: 6 is a Degas Bronze. 5, the Van Gogh and 4 the Picasso.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
12. Well, his play is opening.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jun 2013

Something else is happening, I gather.

(When it comes to the arts, I'm about 1/2 inch deep with no breadth)

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
15. The story's about his studio releasing the number of dot paintings
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jun 2013

that exist ... so that those who bought them can stop worrying whether there are 20,000 of them out there (thereby deflating the value) or just 1700 or some such number. I read the story in the Times the other week, but forget the numbers.

I am thankful I don't have to work on the catalogue raisonné of these works.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
21. Actually, what I was driving at was that he is doing his own catalogue raisonne to deter
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jun 2013

forgeries...but you were close enough!

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
32. Oh, it's pretty much about protecting the value
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:41 PM
Jun 2013

of these works, which has been plummeting. It's somewhat unorthodox, as well, for an artist themselves to produce a CR (though Gagosian is apparently part of it, too). That's generally left to outside institutions and scholars, working with the artist (when he or she is alive).

At any rate, this was the article I read the other week:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/arts/design/damien-hirsts-spot-paintings-the-field-guide.html?pagewanted=all

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
35. Yeah, I'd never heard of it but yes, of course, it's understandable that polka dots can and will
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jun 2013

be reproduced. And art forgery is a big deal. It's amazing to me that art forgery is so prevalent, but it doesn't surprise me I guess...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
18. #5 is a Van Gogh that could be sold by Detroit to pay creditors
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:16 PM
Jun 2013

"Portrait of Postman Roulin" (1888) in the Detroit Museum is one of many works that could be auctioned off by the city.

Met Director Decries Detroit Bid to Pillage Own Museum
By Philip Boroff & Katya Kazakina - May 24, 2013 9:01 PM PT

The Metropolitan Museum of Art has joined the Detroit Institute of Arts in opposing any plan for the Michigan city to sell billions of dollars of museum masterpieces to plug a deficit.

“Even in the darkest days of New York City’s fiscal crisis of 1975, and the national economic meltdown of 2008, the cultural treasures closely identified with our own city were never on the table,” Thomas Campbell, the Met’s director and chief executive, said in a statement.

...


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-24/met-director-decries-detroit-bid-to-pillage-own-museum.html


CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
22. good for you! Isn't it good news that they are not considering selling the art to satisfy
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:21 PM
Jun 2013

the city's debt? It was just appalling that the idea was even floated. I'm so glad the MI A.G. ruled it out, saying it belonged to the people of Detroit.

longship

(40,416 posts)
52. Indeed, I spent my youth at the Detroit Institute of Arts.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 09:54 PM
Jun 2013

I saw the King Tut exhibit when it visited from Egypt in the early sixties. A neighbor and I took the bus, just like we'd take it to Briggs Stadium to see the Tigers play. The difference was we could always see the Tigers; but Tut was in Detroit for a limited engagement. I was about 12 years old and it was awesome.

The second really memorable visit was the opening of the Tannehill bequest exhibition. Lots of good stuff. Too long ago to remember everything but I recall being enthralled by the Degas and Picasso. The former loved ballet dancers and I'd be able to pick them out anywhere, I think.

Then, there's this totally awesome sight at the Detroit Institute of Arts:

Diego Rivera Mural (one of two on opposite walls).

A detail:


And both murals in context (big):


My question is what the fuck the Detroit emergency manager would do with these? Would he demolish the building to sell these wonderful murals, too?

That invites the question. What sense would these make except in their native Detroit? Context in art is important.

Thank you, CT, for this weekly jaunt. You don't know how important it has been to many of us. Especially those who might not realize how important this is if it is lost.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
58. that is fabulous!
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 06:57 AM
Jun 2013

Sadly, there is just too much money to be made from the masterpieces that Detroit owns for them not to be looked at as a monetized asset. I feel so strongly that art is there for the people that even if I had tons of money I would not buy great art for myself.

I am so glad that the people of Detroit have their museum and that the state's AG is trying hard to protect it.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
31. After months of entering Challenges, eventually jberryhill will be right
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:40 PM
Jun 2013

One day, it will be "that Dutch guy."

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
44. did you know that van gogh painted with house paint? I'm not kidding.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jun 2013

It is true. I shoulda used THAT art news story...damn...

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
47. Was there much difference at that time?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:18 PM
Jun 2013

I don't know much about 19th century house painting, but I figured oil-based, and pretty much the same pigments the artists were using would have been "industry standard".

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
51. good point. I really don't know, but when that story came out recently there was a big fuss.
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:20 PM
Jun 2013

I guess at that point artists weren't mixing up their own paints and could get them out of tubes but you'd think there would be a real deliniation. Interesting, esp. with van gogh, ...

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
56. Oh Yeah?
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 12:58 AM
Jun 2013

Well Picasso's Three Musicians don't look a whole lot like musicians to me.

#1 is just a painting. They got the oxen wrong and, in classic European style, replaced the building with a gothic church!

horseshoecrab

(944 posts)
27. #4
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:30 PM
Jun 2013

#4, Picasso's "Woman in an Armchair" is one of 78 cubist paintings, 33 of which are Picassos, recently donated to the Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC by Leonard Lauder.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
29. Great! Really big news for the Metropolitan Museum! Lauder's early Cubist collection is
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 05:34 PM
Jun 2013

a really Big Deal. I just wonder what MoMA thinks about it...

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
40. #1 is "Salisbury Cathedral ..."
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:00 PM
Jun 2013

#1 is "Salisbury Cathedral from the Meadow" by John Constable.

I guess the story is that it was just purchased by the Tate Gallery to keep it in England?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
43. Wonderful, oldhippie! You nailed it!
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 06:07 PM
Jun 2013

This painting has a sad back story. Constable painted it at the behest of a friend who was the archdeacon of the Cathedral, because Constable's wife had died of TB at age 41, leaving her grieving husband with 7 children. Constable was in the depths of grief and this was his way to paint through it, altho he never really got over his wife's death. You can see the sad touches of it in his stunted tree stump and the other tree that looks like it might fall down at any moment. The lone person in the cart is hunched over and the horses seem tired and struggling. We don't know if the storm has come and is going or if it looms near. A man's grief on canvas...

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
59. It seems gone; hence, the suggestion of a rainbow. The light "moves" with the cart from left to
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 07:41 AM
Jun 2013

right.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
60. I have read that Constable added the rainbow as a note of hope.
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 08:21 AM
Jun 2013

But the guy really struggled with his sadness.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
49. An extraordinary exploration. Thank you so much for that, I think I had heard of it but had
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:12 PM
Jun 2013

not seen the actual works. Incredible work out of that...

blm

(113,082 posts)
65. Yes, the actual quality of her artwork and photography should be the larger part of the story
Sat Jun 22, 2013, 11:20 AM
Jun 2013

however, it often gets sidelined by the enormity of what came after the publishing of that iconic photo.

http://matuschka.net/homepage.html

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
48. #6: Degas bronze cast from "recently discovered" plasters
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 07:30 PM
Jun 2013

Photo caption: Canadian VitaPro mogul, philanthropist, and collector Yank Barry showing off one of his 74 Degas bronzes, cast from "recently discovered" plasters.

Adding to the Confusion
By William D. Cohan Posted 08/15/11

A dealer's appraisal of bronzes cast from plasters said to be authentic lifetime works by Degas adds to the controversial nature of the enterprise.

A controversy over 74 plaster casts attributed to Edgar Degas that were supposedly discovered in a French foundry has spread to a dealer’s appraisal of the bronzes cast from the plasters. The most respected Degas experts in the United States have questioned the origin of the plasters, but last year the New York art dealer Stewart Waltzer appraised the set of 74 bronzes at $37.25 million. The most valuable sculpture in the set, Little Dancer Aged Fourteen, is worth $15 million, Waltzer wrote in his appraisal.

The experts who question the legitimacy and the quality of the plasters range from Gary Tinterow, chair of the department of 19th-century, modern, and contemporary art at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, to Daphne S. Barbour and Shelley G. Sturman, National Gallery of Art conservators who published their detailed technical analyses of the NGA’s holdings in the new catalogue raisonné Edgar Degas Sculpture. One expert told ARTnews that the Waltzer appraisal adds to the controversial nature of the enterprise to sell the bronzes as if they were legitimate Degas sculptures.

The plasters were reportedly discovered recently in the Valsuani foundry, outside of Paris. According to New York art dealer Walter Maibaum, he was shown the plasters in 2004 by foundry owner Leonardo Benatov, with whom he reached a deal to have them cast in bronze and made available for sale. Maibaum shared the discovery with another New York dealer, Gregory Hedberg, director of European art at Hirschl & Adler Galleries. Hedberg, after close examination of the plasters, concluded that they had been made during Degas’s lifetime.

...


http://www.artnews.com/2011/08/15/adding-to-the-confusion/


CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
50. Excellent. Isn't this guy something?
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 08:14 PM
Jun 2013

I don't know if he's legit, tho. I have my reservations...just sayin' ....

But, who knows, right?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
53. It would be nice to have something dispositive, either way
Fri Jun 21, 2013, 10:11 PM
Jun 2013

Looks like it will remain an open question unless new evidence turns up. Either way, though, the new bronzes are interesting.

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