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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 01:25 PM Feb 2012

Growing up as a Junior - A Question of Identity

For those contemplating naming a child to come, here's something to consider:

It's not as common as it once was, but giving a boy child the same name as his father used to be a fairly common thing. In practice, it can cause some minor problems, but they're not serious ones. I'm a Junior. George Richard. My father was called George, so it was only natural that my parents called me by my middle name. I was first Dickie, then Dick, and finally Richard, by the time I got into about sixth grade. It prevented confusion about who was being addressed.

Well, as soon as I left home to attend college, the problems began to happen. After a period of trying to get people to call me the name I was used to, I finally gave up. I even tried being G. Richard, but there was my name as George on class records and on every possible official document. Later, when I enlisted in the USAF, there was an immediate end to any possibility of living my life as Richard. It never bothered me too much, but was a minor inconvenience.

Today, I'm still known by everyone in my home town as Richard, and as George everywhere else. When I visit my 87-year-old parents, I'm Richard. It took a while for my wife to get used to calling me that when we visited, which caused some humorous situations from time to time. Some people who knew me in grammar school still call me Dick, but I don't think there's anyone still alive who knows me as Dickie. It can get confusing. People on Facebook who knew me from my home town sometimes are confused, but I make it clear who I am when I friend someone, and that solves it.

There can also be other issues later on, when it comes to identity. Some database software does poorly with the Jr. designation. My health insurance company has difficulty with it. Financially, it can also be an issue, since some credit reporting agencies and other financial institutions also have difficulties with Jr. Most forms you fill out don't have a space for it, and including a comma in a last name fields so you can type Jr. can void the record. That's the case with fishing licenses in MN. I got my dad a fishing licence once when they visited, and the records have been scrambled ever since. The state of Minnesota keeps thinking I'm a non-resident. It's not correctable.

But, it's no big deal. So, if you ever consider naming a boy child after his father, there's no real reason not to go ahead with it. It's guaranteed to confuse some folks and, if you use the boy's middle name, it will cause some additional confusion when he reaches adulthood, but nothing important and nothing that can't be easily dealt with. Still, it's something to consider.

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Growing up as a Junior - A Question of Identity (Original Post) MineralMan Feb 2012 OP
My mom's name is Laura, my brother's ex-wife's name is madmom Feb 2012 #1
I'm agin it! TexasProgresive Feb 2012 #2
As I said, it can complicate life a bit, for sure. MineralMan Feb 2012 #3
I have always disliked the practice tkmorris Feb 2012 #4
It's not so common now as it was 66 years ago, MineralMan Feb 2012 #5

madmom

(9,681 posts)
1. My mom's name is Laura, my brother's ex-wife's name is
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 01:54 PM
Feb 2012

Lorie. After they have been divorced nigh on 30 years and live in 2 different states, the insurance companies still mix them up.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
2. I'm agin it!
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:03 PM
Feb 2012

If one wants to name a child for a family member - let it be one who has past on. My grandfather was Sr. my Dad Jr. and I share the same first name as them but thankfully have a different middle name- which I go by. (And not being III I escaped being called Trey-UGH!) They had bank trouble when I was a boy. The bank deposited my Dad's meager pay check in Grandpa's account causing a slew of overdrafts.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
3. As I said, it can complicate life a bit, for sure.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:05 PM
Feb 2012

I'm proud to have my father's name, though. He's a great man. I don't mind being a Jr. at all.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
4. I have always disliked the practice
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:09 PM
Feb 2012

It just isn't necessary. Why add potential issues to a child's life just to satisfy someone's vanity? There really isn't any upside to it.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
5. It's not so common now as it was 66 years ago,
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:16 PM
Feb 2012

when I was born. Back then, it was a fairly common practice. I must say that I'm proud to have my father's name, because I'm very proud of my father. It has caused few problems, and none of them were serious at all. But, since it's done less often today, technology sometimes forgets that there are lots of Juniors around and they don't include that possibility in their planning for databases, etc.

I could drop the Jr. after my dad is gone, but I won't. It would create a whole new set of identity problems.

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