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fried eggs

(910 posts)
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:51 AM Jun 2013

Mom: College won’t let me breastfeed during exams

Video: http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nbc-news/52262977#52262977



A mom of a 10-month-old baby girl is upset because she was not permitted to breastfeed during a college exam at Florida State College at Jacksonville.

Rebecca Mabrey is an online student, but she still had to go to the campus to take an exam -- and she was turned away at the door because she had her baby and a stroller in tow. The proctor of the test told her she could not have an infant in the classroom during the exam, because she might serve as a disruption to the other students.

That's when Rebecca showed the proctor a copy of Florida's Maternal and Infant Health Care law on breastfeeding -- but she was still told that she would not be permitted to sit for the test.
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Mom: College won’t let me breastfeed during exams (Original Post) fried eggs Jun 2013 OP
I'm sorry, but a classroom during a test is not an appropriate venue for a child. Llewlladdwr Jun 2013 #1
Absolutely correct. Rod Walker Jun 2013 #4
Totally agree theHandpuppet Jun 2013 #16
This reeks of entitlement mentality dsc Jun 2013 #2
Yep. That's exactly my impression as well. QC Jun 2013 #29
I might be able to see it if it was an infant that was young enough Butterbean Jun 2013 #3
Same here. laundry_queen Jun 2013 #22
I'm already a nervous test taker tammywammy Jun 2013 #5
The reasonable approach is to contact the professor for special BainsBane Jun 2013 #6
IMO, she should have been allowed to take the exam, and if the baby cried or fussed petronius Jun 2013 #7
You have obviously not been around many crying babies. Llewlladdwr Jun 2013 #8
I disagree: a child is fine in the test/class room petronius Jun 2013 #9
When you take one of these tests, you are not allowed to leave the room sammytko Jun 2013 #12
Mum removes baby immediately. Examiner collects paper. TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #10
That's an interesting perspective... fried eggs Jun 2013 #11
Speaking as a mother currently breastfeeding an eight-month old... SocratesInSpirit Jun 2013 #13
Well, I kind of have to side with the examining board (if they're the ones responsible) in this case sibelian Jun 2013 #14
It's bad enough we have to deal with screaming babies in airplanes and restaurants. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #15
I hope you brought enough for everybody lame54 Jun 2013 #17
MY take: No student should have anything with them, baby included, that can hide "cheat-sheets." WinkyDink Jun 2013 #18
To be fair, there were answers scribbled on the baby's head NightWatcher Jun 2013 #20
Haha. AS IF students haven't been creative before. I'm talking about the kid's clothing. WinkyDink Jun 2013 #21
It's distracting to others and during exams you need to concentrate. Leave your baby with a sitter. craigmatic Jun 2013 #19
Why can't she just get a sitter HappyMe Jun 2013 #23
How fortuitous she would find herself packing a copy of the relevant law at that moment! Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #24
LOL - Good catch! RedCappedBandit Jun 2013 #35
This is why we have "alternative testing arrangements." QC Jun 2013 #25
This doesn't seem to be about breastfeeding, but rather what type of 'things'... PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #26
Ugh...She compares her situational "issue" with rights accorded people with lifetime disabilities BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #27
At 10 months, HockeyMom Jun 2013 #28
They were probably afraid that she'd use crib notes. Orrex Jun 2013 #30
LOL! Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #32
DUzy malaise Jun 2013 #34
with all the heavy stuff we've been battling about here, this is a relief cali Jun 2013 #31
I was thinking the same thing. Lighter fare Ilsa Jun 2013 #37
What a thoughtless, entitled self-centered moron malaise Jun 2013 #33
Sorry, but the world doesn't revolve around you, Madonna & Child. Ilsa Jun 2013 #36
Someone who hasn't figured out yet that the world does not revolve around her Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #38

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
1. I'm sorry, but a classroom during a test is not an appropriate venue for a child.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:57 AM
Jun 2013

Having an infant present is an unfair and unnecessary distraction for the other students.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
16. Totally agree
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:28 AM
Jun 2013

Heaven forbid she might have made other arrangements for the short time she needed to take the exam. Having a child doesn't exclude you from having some shred of consideration for others.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
2. This reeks of entitlement mentality
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 12:59 AM
Jun 2013

Even she admits in the story that the kid would be waking up toward the end of the exam. So everyone else in the room has to deal with a waking infant while trying to take an exam. Just ridiculous.

QC

(26,371 posts)
29. Yep. That's exactly my impression as well.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:35 PM
Jun 2013

A few years ago, I had a student demand that I reschedule his exam because...get this...he was planning on taking a cruise during exam week.

Pure entitlement, and much more common than most people would guess.

Butterbean

(1,014 posts)
3. I might be able to see it if it was an infant that was young enough
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:05 AM
Jun 2013

that it was still at the age where exclusive breastfeeding was the only/best option. However, 10 months is old enough that the kid can get by for at least a couple of hours without nursing. Unless he has some sort of metabolic condition that necessitates him nursing that frequently at that age (and I actually have a girlfriend who has a daughter with a metabolic condition and she DID have to nurse her that frequently well into her first year because of it), then she's just blowing smoke.

I nursed both of my kids for 2 years each. They both have feeding disorders. I still could have left them for a couple of hours without nursing or eating in order to go take a freaking exam.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
22. Same here.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:17 AM
Jun 2013

I was a 'militant' breastfeeder when I had my babies and breastfed in terms of years, not months. Yet, when my first was 10 months old, I took a weekend course that required my parents to babysit her and bring her in at lunch to breastfeed. She went 4 hours easily as she was able to eat solids at the time and took a sippy cup. I can't see a test being any longer than that (I just wrote a national exam for my profession and it was 4 hours). I'm all for breastfeeding small infants during class, or even a small infant (6 months or less) during exams, IF prior arrangements have been made for a separate room so as not to distract others - but this is getting a bit much, IMO.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
6. The reasonable approach is to contact the professor for special
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:09 AM
Jun 2013

arrangements for the test. A number of students have special testing provisions--special equipment, extra time, etc. . . To just turn up with a baby without discussing it first, however, is not the best way to handle it.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
7. IMO, she should have been allowed to take the exam, and if the baby cried or fussed
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:12 AM
Jun 2013

she could have taken it outside - the lost time would be her own risk to take.

Honestly, the distraction of a crying baby being taken out of the room is not a good excuse to bar someone from the exam; it's not much more annoying - if at all - than other students moving about, the inevitable ass who gets a phone call, the trash truck outside the window, and a host of other irritations. A student that could realistically be distracted by the presence of a baby, to the extent that it meaningfully affected performance, probably ought to be entitled to testing accommodations of their own...

Llewlladdwr

(2,165 posts)
8. You have obviously not been around many crying babies.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:19 AM
Jun 2013

Comparing an infant's cries to a cell phone is apples and oranges. Humans tend to respond to a baby's cries at an instinctive level that a ringing cell phone doesn't reach.

There are some places where a child's presence just isn't appropriate. This is one.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
9. I disagree: a child is fine in the test/class room
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 01:30 AM
Jun 2013

as long as s/he doesn't create a distraction. When s/he does, a quick trip out the door is indicated. In this case, the simple solution would be to seat the mother right next to the door, warn her that any time lost in removing a noise-making child is her loss, and move on.

Note that I did not suggest allowing a crying child - or any other distraction - to remain in the room; of course an actual disturbance should be removed. However, neither the mere presence of a child nor the act of breast-feeding would have constituted exclusion-worthy distractions had I been in charge...

sammytko

(2,480 posts)
12. When you take one of these tests, you are not allowed to leave the room
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:08 AM
Jun 2013

If you want to leave, they will not let you return.

And usually you schedule your exam at your convenience. There are all types of test takers in one room.

She probably could have picked a time when the baby would be asleep and not need to feed.

I wonder what class she was taking.

I've taken many on-line courses with the final exam taking place at the school or an approved location - even a library, with the librarian acting as proctor.

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
10. Mum removes baby immediately. Examiner collects paper.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 02:15 AM
Jun 2013

Strikes me, the shaedenfreude of know she's not returning* should compensate for a disruption no worse than a clumsy early leaver.

But yes, she's a bloody idiot for bringing the kid along and not making alternative arrangements.


*Just woken and fed, that kid will not be settling.

SocratesInSpirit

(578 posts)
13. Speaking as a mother currently breastfeeding an eight-month old...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:14 AM
Jun 2013

She could have gotten a babysitter. Unless the child was special needs in some way, she should have made arrangements for someone to babysit while she was taking the test. The baby is old enough to be okay for a few hours without mom - this isn't a newborn who needs constant nursing. It's one thing if she was being harassed simply for nursing in public, and quite another to insist that a class examination conforms entirely to her situation.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
14. Well, I kind of have to side with the examining board (if they're the ones responsible) in this case
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:18 AM
Jun 2013

Naturally she has to feed her kid, but there are other candidates to think about.

Aren't colleges able to set up examining environments for candidates with unusual requirements?

She can't be the first mother that needs to pass an exam.... Never heard of this problem before now...

???
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. It's bad enough we have to deal with screaming babies in airplanes and restaurants.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 10:20 AM
Jun 2013

Like a movie theater, there's zero place for a crying baby in a room full of exam takers.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
21. Haha. AS IF students haven't been creative before. I'm talking about the kid's clothing.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:14 AM
Jun 2013

I have ZERO time for this dame.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
24. How fortuitous she would find herself packing a copy of the relevant law at that moment!
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:25 AM
Jun 2013


Fishy...and I have no hesitation saying it. Also, other test takers deserve to take the tests without any expectation of disruption. Kind of two separate issues, though.

PB

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
35. LOL - Good catch!
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:14 PM
Jun 2013

But I agree. The other paying students have a right to an an environment free of such disturbances.

QC

(26,371 posts)
25. This is why we have "alternative testing arrangements."
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:26 AM
Jun 2013

Most colleges have a testing center, and most professors are willing to give separate exams for people whose circumstances require it. In twenty-four years of teaching I have worked around surgery, chemo sessions, military orders, cross-country moves, dead and dying relatives, illnesses, child care issues, etc.

This sounds like a really, really extreme case of entitlement, something we are seeing a lot in this age of the precious snowflake.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
26. This doesn't seem to be about breastfeeding, but rather what type of 'things'...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:31 AM
Jun 2013

you are allowed to bring into an exam...

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
27. Ugh...She compares her situational "issue" with rights accorded people with lifetime disabilities
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:33 AM
Jun 2013

But what about ME????

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
28. At 10 months,
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 11:35 AM
Jun 2013

that child should be on solid foods, and certainly drinking from a cup. I nursed my own daughter until 20 months. The Mom had to know she had tests coming up. Get a babysitter in advance. IF she really, really needed to nurse, she could have pumped her milk, and the sitter give it to the baby in a bottle, or CUP.

No excuse at that age for milk allergy. My daughter had that, but by 10 months she could drink water, juice, or goat's milk.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
31. with all the heavy stuff we've been battling about here, this is a relief
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jun 2013

olive garden breast feeding pit bull fight club!

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
37. I was thinking the same thing. Lighter fare
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:17 PM
Jun 2013

For a change. Otherwise, I was going to hang in The Lounge for the next few weeks.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
36. Sorry, but the world doesn't revolve around you, Madonna & Child.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jun 2013

As a former breastfeeding mom and as a former student, I would say she needs to get a sitter, express some milk, and go take her test.

There are lots of places where it isn't appropriate to nurse, like while operating motor vehicles and airplanes, when performing surgery, etc.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
38. Someone who hasn't figured out yet that the world does not revolve around her
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:19 PM
Jun 2013

and her precious spawn. Grow up and hire a sitter.

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