RANT: I'm glad Hong Kong, China and now Russia told us to get fucked. But how sad it's come to that?

[Poll_Blind]

Because I don't love Hong Kong or China or Russia. I love America. I do. I have one son and my girlfriend has two and as much as I hate some of the things that go on in this country, it's far more often than not that I thank the God I don't believe in that we had the unimaginable luck to be born here.

I couldn't give a rip about Hong Kong other than I hear it has nice parks. China's the world's biggest slave empire and Russian politics are so corrupt they might as well use it as a selling point.

Grim truth? In reality, America is actually a pretty fucking great place to live...in comparison to the rest of the world. Because where else you gonna move to?



But having said all that, it should also be said that Barack Obama is about as bold as soggy toast when it comes to bringing us back from the National Security State architected and initially constructed in the Bush years. Dudeman gets behind the wheel of America and decides he likes driving us down Shady Lane.

So while I don't have any love for Hong Kong or China or Russia, I'm thrilled that the President has been made to look like an ass, and not just by those countries but by world opinion in this matter, because he totally deserved it.

You lie with dogs, you wake up with fleas.

So if a politician, any politician, goes to bat for the corrupt banking interests, predatory corporate interests or, in this case, a Sauron-like omniscient National Security Snooping State, you're damned right I'm going to enjoy it when they take a pitch to the balls. Whether they're Republicans or Democrats or even the President, I have a little something for everyone who shills for evil:

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I would have hoped that in voting to elect the man...twice...that he would have put more of his candidacy's rhetoric into action via the few choices he can make with such an obstreperous congress. Instead, it's come to simply hoping that his adoption and expansion of so many Bush-era policies blow up and get egg on his face. Just like this one with the snooping and the outsourcing.

And we'll be having this talk again when Keystone XL starts shitting all over the place. Because you know three things, whether you'll admit it out loud or not: 1) Obama's going to build it and 2) It's going to fuck up, spectacularly and 3) Everyone responsible is gonna walk when it does.

PB

[msongs]

1. despite a democratic president and senate republicans control the government. foreginers notice nt

[Half-Century Man]

2. On XL, I fear you are right.

So while they build it, take notes; Who, when, where, what, the why is money. It may end up as evidence in a Crime Against Humanity trial, a mass poisoning trial, the legal proceedings around the United States losing an area the size of a state to human habitation, or defense evidence in murder trials.

[OnyxCollie]

3. I love you, man.

[Amonester]

4. So, if the President stopped all NSA programs and an attack worst than 911 happened weeks after, you

would also be thrilled to see the repukes finger-pointing the President AND all Democrats 24/7 everywhere for years and years to come, I guess.

[Poll_Blind]

8. What a pantload. I'm not asking the President to stop all NSA programs. Why do you pretend that?

Why suck up like a little pilot fish onto the same vile intrusions you (presumably) must have hated when Bush was president? Is it just because he's a Democrat?

PB

[90-percent]

5. "I thank the God I don't believe in that we had the unimaginable luck to be born here. "

my version:

I thank my higher power that I had the unimaginable luck to be born here in 1954.

I don't think I'd be thanking God so much if instead I had been born in perhaps 1980 or later. At least I got to witness the high water mark of American post war middle class prosperity, which to my understanding was the year 1965.

-90% Jimmy

[Spider Jerusalem]

6. In comparison to most of the rest of the world maybe

but..."where else are you going to move to?" Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK, France, Germany, the Netherlands...(not that Canada/Australia/NZ/UK have clean hands in the whole surveillance thing; "Five Eyes" and all that). Other countries besides the US are liberal democracies that respect the rights of their citizens.

[Democracyinkind]

7. Switzerland is a pretty swell place to live too.

Unfortunately, even this laughable mini-state spies on its citizens in the same way the NSA does.

And there's other dark aspects and secrets too. Having lived in both places, though, I don't think that the US comes off as that great of a nation. But then Switzerland is probably an unfair comparison since it has about the highest living standard of anywhere in the world.

Still, I find myself thinking about the differences allot lately. Though it's not easy to compare. I've had several job offers from the US over the years that I've been living here but I can't say that I see myself moving back.

I'm not even quite sure what I am saying. Maybe simply that there are enough other places that are pretty decent to live, with freedumb and all that. So basically I am just seconding your post.

[byeya]

9. Excellent post - 5 *s - Thanks!