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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI got slimed by rush today on his show...need help
does anyone know where I can find a brief snippet from....rush limbaugh?
today I (as "scarebaby", which is my business's name) replied to President Obama's request that people tweet what 40 dollars means to them. I sent a simple tweet that said "40 dollars means I can pay my internet bill and keep my tiny small business running."
my tweet was retweeted by the White House.
Then, apparently, rush accused me of being a fake twitter account set up by the white house.
I didnt' hear it because, well, I've never listened to his show. but if I could just have that one snippet...I could do a lot with it!
thanks
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)and you'll get the page at his site or you might get his spew quoted verbatim at another site. (I believe he puts up transcripts or partial ones, anyway.) That's how I've searched before.
ETA, Mr. President, is that you?
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)No, I'm the Queen of England!
thanks, I'll see what I can find. He might doctor this transcript though since it contains lies.
chisao101
(3 posts)how can you say it's lies? you didn't hear what he said! i'm listening to rush right now, and what he said was true. this tax cut does not apply to scarebaby because it doesn't apply to anyone that is self employed.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)I know I always go to drug addicted pedophiles for my tax advice myself but maybe you have a better take on Rush than I do.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)it's sad, because if you research you can see he lies on a daily basis. There is no excuse for falling for his crap, especially if one owns a computer which is connected to the internet.
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)barbtries
(28,799 posts)lol
creeksneakers2
(7,473 posts)The tax cut applies to the employee side of self employment taxes, which is another name for social security taxes paid by the self employed that include both the employee and employer SS taxes plus Medicare taxes.
Here's proof Rush lied about that:
"2. The extension also applies to self-employed individuals. The rate cut is not limited to employees. It applies as well to the employee portion of the Social Security tax that is part of self-employment tax, which is paid by self-employed individuals. The tax rate for the employer portion of the self-employment tax remains unchanged."
http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/my-money/2012/01/10/5-things-to-know-about-the-payroll-tax--cut-extension
Rush also lied and said self employed people don't pay SS taxes. Here's the IRS page about that:
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=98846,00.html
Rush also lied about the money from the tax cut being taken out of the social security trust fund. Every dollar will be made up from a transfer from the general fund to the SS fund.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/08/news/economy/Social_Security_payroll_tax_cut/index.htm
Why does Rush lie about this?
Rush is an unprincipled class warrior for the rich. He wants every dollar of any tax cut to go to the rich and doesn't want any to go to the poor working class or the middle class. Rush lies to benefit the rich constantly. Rush's excuse for wanting this money to go to the rich is that they'd invest the money, thereby creating jobs and improving the economy. So if the average tax benefit from the SS tax cut was $1,500, that $1,500 would go to rich people instead of us.
To see how dumb somebody would have to fall for this, turn it around and offer the same deal to any rich person. Ask them to give you $1,500. Tell them you'll invest the money and you'll keep the principle and the earnings. Tell the rich person he will receive in return the benefit of the improvement that $1,500 brings to the economy. Do you think there would be a single rich person in America who would give you the $1,500? Why should you give it to them, when they offer a worse deal to you? They don't even promise to invest the money. Most of them will just keep the $1,500 you could have had.
Of course, Rush fans are so brainwashed that they can't accept Rush lied to them even when the proof is in front of them, like it is with the links I provided. Rush and his rich friends know this, so he lies all the time knowing he won't pay a price for it.
But the rest of us working people have to end up paying the price for this class war on the gullible.
banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)Mimosa
(9,131 posts)nanabugg
(2,198 posts)mistertrickster
(7,062 posts)Too easy . . .
lunatica
(53,410 posts)That was just too
Skelly
(238 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)The normal definition of dittoheads is people who repeat something another says verbatim. Word for word, whether it has merit, truth, value, or significance.
LOL!
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)The mechanism by which SS taxes are collected is different, but practical effect of the tax cut is not.
gateley
(62,683 posts)northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)ceile
(8,692 posts)because I want to know the outcome of this!
villager
(26,001 posts)This is the journalist in me, but "never thought I'd ask this" (though admittedly, it got me to click!), may get you less help than a headline saying "was slandered on Limbaugh today -- need clip of show," or some such....
Again, take it or leave it, but since the goal is to try and get help, you'll want as many eyeballs knowing your issue/circumstance as possible...
Now: Go get that bastard! (No offense to actual bastards...!)
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)thanks, I changed it!
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)They monitor Rush's shenanigans daily -- email them they might feature it on the MMFA site!
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)thanks!
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)I hope everyone will support them because the RW mafia is obviously trying to take them out
Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)jimlup
(7,968 posts)And good luck finding your snippet.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)He said this couldnt be legit because if you (scarebaby) had a "business" you wouldnt be eligible for the tax break... it only goes to employees, not owners of a business. He may be technically right about that but you should still set him straight.. he was claiming you were a WH staffer faking the tweet.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)He needs factcheckers. How does he know I don't ALSO have an outside job? He doesn't know jack. And the nasty dittohead tweets I'm getting are starting to piss me off.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Anything to discredit the President. His idiot listeners/worshipers will believe anything he says.
chisao101
(3 posts)he said "probably"
DCBob
(24,689 posts)The guy is a fatass liar showman who only cares about keeping his mindless dittohead listeners glued to the radio jacking off to his outrageous hot button rightwing spewings. Who would want to listen better to that??
EFerrari
(163,986 posts)who doesn't know tax law from his next fix?
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)3 posts.
That one didn't take long at all.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Brettongarcia
(2,262 posts)Is he still addicted to oxycontin?
Recovered Repug
(1,518 posts)Go done to the last 6 paragraphs to find where his talking about you.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)"The White House, Obama, puts out this tweet, "I'm asking the American people to keep their stories coming. Tell us what $40 means to you. President Obama," and this was the first response. It was from some guy named "ScareBaby." That's how he identified himself! The first response to Obama's tweet: "$40 a month means I can pay my Internet bill and keep my tiny small business alive."
That was the first response and the White House retweeted it. Now, of course, it's BS. Nobody actually sent that. That's a White House-generated response. And do you know how I know? You may not know how I know. But this is the level of ignorance that we have that is associated with this. Mr. ScareBaby cannot possibly have a small business and get this payroll tax cut. The self-employed don't get it. If you are self-employed, you know it. This doesn't even apply to you. There is no payroll tax cut for the self-employed. So Mr. ScareBaby here says, "$40 a month means I can pay my Internet bill and keep my tiny small business alive." The White House retweets it. If he has a small business he's self-employed, and this 2% payroll tax cut only applies to employees. Not him.
In fact, maybe I ought to report this disinformation to Obama's new "truth team." He's got new truth teams out there. You heard about this? In every state, he has truth teams. They're out there to counter the lies and misinformation about the regime that pop up, and this is not new. What was the first thing like this they had? (interruption) Yeah, what was the name of the website? I can't remember the name of the website. But, anyway, it's just an extension or an expansion of that. So Mr. ScareBaby, this is obviously not a real person. This is somebody in the White House getting this Tweet ball rolling. Minor, minor point."
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)You'll notice that the initial "tweet" did NOT say "what would a $40 payroll tax cut mean to you". When OTHER people get $40 extra dollars in their pockets, I benefit because they can purchase from me.
Now that I've read what he said, I'm even more offended.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)Actually, Limbaugh's an idiot out the box anyway. I own *two* small businesses and pay no self-employment tax. I did some consulting work once and paid self-employment then. But have never had to pay it because of the businesses I own.
That aside, if it so happens your work requires you to pay self-employment taxes, is there no partial payroll tax holiday on that tax? The one year I had to pay it, I noted that self-employment taxes were equal to the employer and employee share of the payroll tax combined. Did they forget that when crafting the payroll tax holiday?
banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)PigBoy doubled down, by the way.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)I offered to do it for free. But they wouldn't let me. I believe I actually spent more time figuring out how to calculate my taxes than I spent on that job.
Since the self-employment tax was the same as the employer and employee shares of FICA, I assume the self-employment tax is in place of FICA.
Self-employment tax is *in addition* to the regular income tax. Your tax bill looks pretty big then. Assuming, of course, you report your income.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)and since the people who listen to him just accept everything he says as gospel, he gets away with it.
This is the truth:
For 2011, you will pay 4.2 percent and your employer will pay Social Security taxes of 6.2 percent on the first $106,800 of your covered wages. You each also pay Medicare taxes of 1.45 percent on all your wages - no limit. If you are self-employed, your Social Security tax rate is 10.4 percent and your Medicare tax is 2.9 percent on those same amounts of earnings but you are able to deduct the employer portion.
So......4.2 percent plus 6.2 percent equals 10.4 percent. Prior to the payroll tax holiday, the self-employment rate was 12.4 percent.
JohnnyLib2
(11,212 posts)His first segment today was more loathsome than usual.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)I'd love to see Rush have to eat his words.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)if you want to read them you can go to twitter and search "scarebaby"
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banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)runs up the deficits to $1.3 trillion, or spies on Americans illegally and lies about that.
FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)Talk about useful idiot. He's Rush's lap toy.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)didn't really exist, I love how you gloss right over that. If Rush is talking, Rush is lying.
creeksneakers2
(7,473 posts)Later in the show, Rush said this:
"RUSH: By the way, I'm told something. Remember this Obama tweet on the White House twitter page for people to respond about what $40 a month means to 'em with the payroll tax cut extension, and the first one that responded was somebody named Mr. ScareBaby?"
"And ScareBaby said: I have a very small business and $40 will help me with my Internet bill or whatever. And I said, "ScareBaby, you're an idiot. You're self-employed! You don't qualify for the payroll tax cut." No self-employed person gets the payroll tax cut. You gotta be an employee. If you're a small business owner -- a "very" small business owner, a "tiny" small business owner -- you're not an employee. Well, guess what? ScareBaby posted on the Democrat Underground that she's upset because I'm "sliming" her. It turns out Mr. ScareBaby is a woman and says, "I got slimed by Rush today on his show. Need your help." So somebody from the White House is feeling that I'm sliming them. ScareBaby."
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
"RUSH: Hey, ScareBaby? I understand you're trying to find tape of me saying what I said about you. I'll say some more about you. You are the Democrat mascot: ScareBaby! The Democrat Party's entire political agenda depends on fear of pregnancy. Stop and think about that. Not to mention literally terrorizing babies in the womb. Fear of pregnancy. Stop and think what the Democrats are putting out there."
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)I hadn't seen that until now.
anyone know a good lawyer?
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Good luck to you. What a POS!
SmileyRose
(4,854 posts)Response to oldtime dfl_er (Original post)
creeksneakers2 This message was self-deleted by its author.
Great Caesars Ghost
(532 posts)that is slander
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)It's going to be hard for the Republicans to win the election without the support of many of the people who could use an extra $40 a month.
creeksneakers2
(7,473 posts)They want every cent of any tax cut to go to the super wealthy. They say cutting SS taxes won't create jobs, but tax cuts to the wealthy would.
You are right about how this looked for Republicans. They've caved in on the issue.
spanone
(135,844 posts)SmileyRose
(4,854 posts)Knowing you personally got Rush's shorts in a twist is a beautiful thing.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)I needed that! LOL
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Well done.
Gold Metal Flake
(13,805 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Mimosa
(9,131 posts)*hugs*
and good energy!!! your way.
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What worries me is the antagonism and hatred Limbaugh's followers expressed. They are scary.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)They're cowards.
Spazito
(50,365 posts)I hope you get help to nail the POS Rush in court AND get a public retraction and apology from the creep!
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...and this is typical of him.
He's a blowhard who spews lies and distortions. He relies on the fact that his audience
members are incredibly gullible and hanging on his every word like dullard weasels
with no critical-thinking skills.
Rush is rarely called out--because his listeners aren't astute enough to know when he's lying
and the majority that doesn't care--assumes that Rush is a clown.
This is typically what happens when Rush is called out for lies and disinformation. Notice
that at first, Rush said that Scarebaby didn't exist and was the White House writing fake
tweets.
Now that the real Scarebaby has emerged, Rush is turning up the volume. Typical. He
throws tantrums when he's wrong and revealed as the idiot that he is. Watch. He'll
launch never-ending tirades about this situation and how evil the Democrats are and
blah, blah, blah. Seriously. He'll spend hours on this. Rush has a very thin skin. He's
a whiney baby. I've heard this hundreds of times.
He won't EVER address his initial LIES--that Scarebaby wasn't real and was the White House
tweeting. Rush will cloud the issue, throw a tantrum, raise his voice and babble on and
on like a fool. It's like a teenager who gets in trouble for driving the car into a pole and
then throws herself on the ground and screams, "You never let me do anything!! You guys
are mean!!"
Anything to cover up the fact that what Rush said was an embarrassing lie.
And of COURSE--anyone who tries to point out the fact that Rush got it wrong--will be viewed
as evil and horrible. Up is down. Truth is bad. Lies are good. Hence is the world of
Rush Limbaugh and his lemming listeners.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)Attack my policies, but don't deny my existence.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)He doesn't just say that you don't exist. He flat out accuses the White House
of faking a person and twittering to themselves.
Rush is an idiot. A complete idiot.
And just because some of Rush's callers are fake and staged--doesn't mean that the rest
of the country is engaging in the same kind of pathetic shenanigans.
mainer
(12,022 posts)hope the orders are pouring in.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)but each one is a counterbalance to the filth, lies and threats that are being posted in various "conservative" forums around the web!
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)More like a fat bear rug.
Except he's a lot fatter than any bear... And uglier too.
He's probably pretty hairy
Except for maybe a body wax before heading to some Caribbean island for a sex tour.
That's a disturbing thought.
Anyway, he lies.
How can I tell when he's lying?
His lips are moving.
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)And a kick in the rump from all of us at DU!