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oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 02:13 PM Feb 2012

I got slimed by rush today on his show...need help

does anyone know where I can find a brief snippet from....rush limbaugh?

today I (as "scarebaby", which is my business's name) replied to President Obama's request that people tweet what 40 dollars means to them. I sent a simple tweet that said "40 dollars means I can pay my internet bill and keep my tiny small business running."

my tweet was retweeted by the White House.

Then, apparently, rush accused me of being a fake twitter account set up by the white house.

I didnt' hear it because, well, I've never listened to his show. but if I could just have that one snippet...I could do a lot with it!

thanks

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I got slimed by rush today on his show...need help (Original Post) oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 OP
If you have a phrase he used, sometimes you can search that (ETA) EFerrari Feb 2012 #1
heh heh oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #7
lies? chisao101 Feb 2012 #25
Were his lips moving? EFerrari Feb 2012 #32
Rush Limbaugh does nothing but lie to his audience fascisthunter Feb 2012 #33
He's dead, Jim. EFerrari Feb 2012 #34
LOL.... good! fascisthunter Feb 2012 #41
but we can still beat him! barbtries Feb 2012 #69
LOL EFerrari Feb 2012 #73
Rush lies constantly, and he's lying about this too creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #36
nice work - much appreciated. n/t banned from Kos Feb 2012 #48
^ Amen! Thanks, Creeksneakers2 ^ n/t Mimosa Feb 2012 #61
Nice work. I hope it can be used to sue his butt! nt nanabugg Feb 2012 #76
3 posts and he defends Rush Limbaugh mistertrickster Feb 2012 #45
Yeah lunatica Feb 2012 #55
I thought they just forgot the sarcasm icon. n/t Skelly Feb 2012 #57
Defending the utterly indefensible must be really tough lunatica Feb 2012 #53
I'm self employed and the tax cut applies to me too. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #67
Haha! Busted! nt gateley Feb 2012 #11
Sorry, never listen either. northoftheborder Feb 2012 #2
kicking ceile Feb 2012 #3
with all due respect -- since it's your thread -- you may want to reword your headline villager Feb 2012 #4
you're right oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #5
I'll bet Media Matters For America would love to find it for you! K8-EEE Feb 2012 #6
I LOVE THAT IDEA! oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #8
They do such great work, you can tell by who is attacking them right now K8-EEE Feb 2012 #13
He has a website with daily transcripts n/t Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2012 #9
Kudos for taking that slime ball on! jimlup Feb 2012 #10
We will vouch for you being a real person. n/t Ian David Feb 2012 #12
I heard it on my way to lunch. DCBob Feb 2012 #14
thanks! oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #15
Exactly. He doesnt know anything about you.. so he just makes up shit. DCBob Feb 2012 #31
listen better chisao101 Feb 2012 #26
"Listen better"?? DCBob Feb 2012 #30
Why would anyone want to listen better to a pedophile drug addicted blowhard EFerrari Feb 2012 #35
The poster is no longer with us proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #42
Surprised he lasted that long. He/she/it didnt even attempt to fake it. DCBob Feb 2012 #51
and Rush is "probably" still on drugs every time he does a show. nt Incitatus Feb 2012 #37
Is "Rush" his real name? Or his drug nickname? Brettongarcia Feb 2012 #52
Here's a transcript - from his own site. Recovered Repug Feb 2012 #16
copying and pasting here oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #17
one point oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #19
Does the payroll tax holiday not extend to self-employment taxes? ieoeja Feb 2012 #21
Don't you pay quarterly estimates if self-employed? If so there is no FICA withholding. banned from Kos Feb 2012 #22
I did not. But I only had a few hours or self-employment. ieoeja Feb 2012 #29
It DOES extend to the self-employed. Rush is an idiot Curmudgeoness Feb 2012 #77
I heard it and sure hope you can follow up. JohnnyLib2 Feb 2012 #18
Oh, please do follow up, and keep us informed. sufrommich Feb 2012 #20
I've been retweeting the nasty tweets Im getting oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #23
Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #24
Let me know when Obama lies us into a $2 trillion war, or says "Deficits don't matter" and banned from Kos Feb 2012 #27
LOL. He says "useful idiot" but here he is after his messiah Rush told him about this story. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #44
Actually troll, Rush was saying that oldtime dfl_er sufrommich Feb 2012 #28
You got slimed again creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #38
omg oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #43
That's a good next move. laundry_queen Feb 2012 #46
LOL - poor Rush SmileyRose Feb 2012 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #39
I'd sue! Great Caesars Ghost Feb 2012 #40
What is his point? Is he against the tax cut? Incitatus Feb 2012 #47
Rush and the vast right wing conspiracy hate the SS tax cut creeksneakers2 Feb 2012 #50
here you go spanone Feb 2012 #49
CONGRATULATIONS SmileyRose Feb 2012 #54
THANKS! oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #64
Every time Rush snivels, an angel gets it's wings. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #68
Your story is on Kos Gold Metal Flake Feb 2012 #58
K&R - I hope you're able to receive some assistance on this. n/t myrna minx Feb 2012 #59
So happy you're here, Oldtime dfl_er! Mimosa Feb 2012 #60
Don't let them scare you oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #65
I just read the KOS diary on what happened to you.... Spazito Feb 2012 #62
I've listened to Rush for years.... CoffeeCat Feb 2012 #63
Yes, yes and yes oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #66
Yes, Rush's lies are often multi-leveled... CoffeeCat Feb 2012 #75
I notice folks are finding their way to your online business! mainer Feb 2012 #70
a few oldtime dfl_er Feb 2012 #71
Rush lies like a rug... MrScorpio Feb 2012 #72
Give him hell AsahinaKimi Feb 2012 #74

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
1. If you have a phrase he used, sometimes you can search that (ETA)
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 02:18 PM
Feb 2012

and you'll get the page at his site or you might get his spew quoted verbatim at another site. (I believe he puts up transcripts or partial ones, anyway.) That's how I've searched before.

ETA, Mr. President, is that you?

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
7. heh heh
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 02:32 PM
Feb 2012

No, I'm the Queen of England!



thanks, I'll see what I can find. He might doctor this transcript though since it contains lies.

 

chisao101

(3 posts)
25. lies?
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 04:04 PM
Feb 2012

how can you say it's lies? you didn't hear what he said! i'm listening to rush right now, and what he said was true. this tax cut does not apply to scarebaby because it doesn't apply to anyone that is self employed.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
32. Were his lips moving?
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:05 PM
Feb 2012

I know I always go to drug addicted pedophiles for my tax advice myself but maybe you have a better take on Rush than I do.

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
33. Rush Limbaugh does nothing but lie to his audience
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:10 PM
Feb 2012

it's sad, because if you research you can see he lies on a daily basis. There is no excuse for falling for his crap, especially if one owns a computer which is connected to the internet.

creeksneakers2

(7,473 posts)
36. Rush lies constantly, and he's lying about this too
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 08:06 PM
Feb 2012

The tax cut applies to the employee side of self employment taxes, which is another name for social security taxes paid by the self employed that include both the employee and employer SS taxes plus Medicare taxes.

Here's proof Rush lied about that:

"2. The extension also applies to self-employed individuals. The rate cut is not limited to employees. It applies as well to the employee portion of the Social Security tax that is part of self-employment tax, which is paid by self-employed individuals. The tax rate for the employer portion of the self-employment tax remains unchanged."

http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/my-money/2012/01/10/5-things-to-know-about-the-payroll-tax--cut-extension

Rush also lied and said self employed people don't pay SS taxes. Here's the IRS page about that:

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=98846,00.html

Rush also lied about the money from the tax cut being taken out of the social security trust fund. Every dollar will be made up from a transfer from the general fund to the SS fund.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/08/news/economy/Social_Security_payroll_tax_cut/index.htm

Why does Rush lie about this?

Rush is an unprincipled class warrior for the rich. He wants every dollar of any tax cut to go to the rich and doesn't want any to go to the poor working class or the middle class. Rush lies to benefit the rich constantly. Rush's excuse for wanting this money to go to the rich is that they'd invest the money, thereby creating jobs and improving the economy. So if the average tax benefit from the SS tax cut was $1,500, that $1,500 would go to rich people instead of us.

To see how dumb somebody would have to fall for this, turn it around and offer the same deal to any rich person. Ask them to give you $1,500. Tell them you'll invest the money and you'll keep the principle and the earnings. Tell the rich person he will receive in return the benefit of the improvement that $1,500 brings to the economy. Do you think there would be a single rich person in America who would give you the $1,500? Why should you give it to them, when they offer a worse deal to you? They don't even promise to invest the money. Most of them will just keep the $1,500 you could have had.

Of course, Rush fans are so brainwashed that they can't accept Rush lied to them even when the proof is in front of them, like it is with the links I provided. Rush and his rich friends know this, so he lies all the time knowing he won't pay a price for it.

But the rest of us working people have to end up paying the price for this class war on the gullible.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
53. Defending the utterly indefensible must be really tough
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:29 AM
Feb 2012

The normal definition of dittoheads is people who repeat something another says verbatim. Word for word, whether it has merit, truth, value, or significance.

LOL!

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
67. I'm self employed and the tax cut applies to me too.
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:18 PM
Feb 2012

The mechanism by which SS taxes are collected is different, but practical effect of the tax cut is not.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
4. with all due respect -- since it's your thread -- you may want to reword your headline
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 02:23 PM
Feb 2012

This is the journalist in me, but "never thought I'd ask this" (though admittedly, it got me to click!), may get you less help than a headline saying "was slandered on Limbaugh today -- need clip of show," or some such....

Again, take it or leave it, but since the goal is to try and get help, you'll want as many eyeballs knowing your issue/circumstance as possible...

Now: Go get that bastard! (No offense to actual bastards...!)

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
6. I'll bet Media Matters For America would love to find it for you!
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 02:31 PM
Feb 2012

They monitor Rush's shenanigans daily -- email them they might feature it on the MMFA site!

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
13. They do such great work, you can tell by who is attacking them right now
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:06 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125112175

I hope everyone will support them because the RW mafia is obviously trying to take them out

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
14. I heard it on my way to lunch.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:07 PM
Feb 2012

He said this couldnt be legit because if you (scarebaby) had a "business" you wouldnt be eligible for the tax break... it only goes to employees, not owners of a business. He may be technically right about that but you should still set him straight.. he was claiming you were a WH staffer faking the tweet.

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
15. thanks!
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:25 PM
Feb 2012

He needs factcheckers. How does he know I don't ALSO have an outside job? He doesn't know jack. And the nasty dittohead tweets I'm getting are starting to piss me off.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
31. Exactly. He doesnt know anything about you.. so he just makes up shit.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:05 PM
Feb 2012

Anything to discredit the President. His idiot listeners/worshipers will believe anything he says.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
30. "Listen better"??
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:01 PM
Feb 2012

The guy is a fatass liar showman who only cares about keeping his mindless dittohead listeners glued to the radio jacking off to his outrageous hot button rightwing spewings. Who would want to listen better to that??

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
35. Why would anyone want to listen better to a pedophile drug addicted blowhard
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 06:25 PM
Feb 2012

who doesn't know tax law from his next fix?

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
17. copying and pasting here
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:34 PM
Feb 2012

"The White House, Obama, puts out this tweet, "I'm asking the American people to keep their stories coming. Tell us what $40 means to you. President Obama," and this was the first response. It was from some guy named "ScareBaby." That's how he identified himself! The first response to Obama's tweet: "$40 a month means I can pay my Internet bill and keep my tiny small business alive."

That was the first response and the White House retweeted it. Now, of course, it's BS. Nobody actually sent that. That's a White House-generated response. And do you know how I know? You may not know how I know. But this is the level of ignorance that we have that is associated with this. Mr. ScareBaby cannot possibly have a small business and get this payroll tax cut. The self-employed don't get it. If you are self-employed, you know it. This doesn't even apply to you. There is no payroll tax cut for the self-employed. So Mr. ScareBaby here says, "$40 a month means I can pay my Internet bill and keep my tiny small business alive." The White House retweets it. If he has a small business he's self-employed, and this 2% payroll tax cut only applies to employees. Not him.

In fact, maybe I ought to report this disinformation to Obama's new "truth team." He's got new truth teams out there. You heard about this? In every state, he has truth teams. They're out there to counter the lies and misinformation about the regime that pop up, and this is not new. What was the first thing like this they had? (interruption) Yeah, what was the name of the website? I can't remember the name of the website. But, anyway, it's just an extension or an expansion of that. So Mr. ScareBaby, this is obviously not a real person. This is somebody in the White House getting this Tweet ball rolling. Minor, minor point."

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
19. one point
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:36 PM
Feb 2012

You'll notice that the initial "tweet" did NOT say "what would a $40 payroll tax cut mean to you". When OTHER people get $40 extra dollars in their pockets, I benefit because they can purchase from me.

Now that I've read what he said, I'm even more offended.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
21. Does the payroll tax holiday not extend to self-employment taxes?
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:45 PM
Feb 2012

Actually, Limbaugh's an idiot out the box anyway. I own *two* small businesses and pay no self-employment tax. I did some consulting work once and paid self-employment then. But have never had to pay it because of the businesses I own.

That aside, if it so happens your work requires you to pay self-employment taxes, is there no partial payroll tax holiday on that tax? The one year I had to pay it, I noted that self-employment taxes were equal to the employer and employee share of the payroll tax combined. Did they forget that when crafting the payroll tax holiday?

 

banned from Kos

(4,017 posts)
22. Don't you pay quarterly estimates if self-employed? If so there is no FICA withholding.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:55 PM
Feb 2012

PigBoy doubled down, by the way.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
29. I did not. But I only had a few hours or self-employment.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 05:38 PM
Feb 2012

I offered to do it for free. But they wouldn't let me. I believe I actually spent more time figuring out how to calculate my taxes than I spent on that job.

Since the self-employment tax was the same as the employer and employee shares of FICA, I assume the self-employment tax is in place of FICA.

Self-employment tax is *in addition* to the regular income tax. Your tax bill looks pretty big then. Assuming, of course, you report your income.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
77. It DOES extend to the self-employed. Rush is an idiot
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:29 PM
Feb 2012

and since the people who listen to him just accept everything he says as gospel, he gets away with it.

This is the truth:

For 2011, you will pay 4.2 percent and your employer will pay Social Security taxes of 6.2 percent on the first $106,800 of your covered wages. You each also pay Medicare taxes of 1.45 percent on all your wages - no limit. If you are self-employed, your Social Security tax rate is 10.4 percent and your Medicare tax is 2.9 percent on those same amounts of earnings but you are able to deduct the employer portion.

So......4.2 percent plus 6.2 percent equals 10.4 percent. Prior to the payroll tax holiday, the self-employment rate was 12.4 percent.

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
23. I've been retweeting the nasty tweets Im getting
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 03:59 PM
Feb 2012

if you want to read them you can go to twitter and search "scarebaby"

Response to oldtime dfl_er (Original post)

 

banned from Kos

(4,017 posts)
27. Let me know when Obama lies us into a $2 trillion war, or says "Deficits don't matter" and
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 04:09 PM
Feb 2012

runs up the deficits to $1.3 trillion, or spies on Americans illegally and lies about that.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
44. LOL. He says "useful idiot" but here he is after his messiah Rush told him about this story.
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 08:51 PM
Feb 2012

Talk about useful idiot. He's Rush's lap toy.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
28. Actually troll, Rush was saying that oldtime dfl_er
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 04:11 PM
Feb 2012

didn't really exist, I love how you gloss right over that. If Rush is talking, Rush is lying.

creeksneakers2

(7,473 posts)
38. You got slimed again
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 08:17 PM
Feb 2012

Later in the show, Rush said this:

"RUSH: By the way, I'm told something. Remember this Obama tweet on the White House twitter page for people to respond about what $40 a month means to 'em with the payroll tax cut extension, and the first one that responded was somebody named Mr. ScareBaby?"

"And ScareBaby said: I have a very small business and $40 will help me with my Internet bill or whatever. And I said, "ScareBaby, you're an idiot. You're self-employed! You don't qualify for the payroll tax cut." No self-employed person gets the payroll tax cut. You gotta be an employee. If you're a small business owner -- a "very" small business owner, a "tiny" small business owner -- you're not an employee. Well, guess what? ScareBaby posted on the Democrat Underground that she's upset because I'm "sliming" her. It turns out Mr. ScareBaby is a woman and says, "I got slimed by Rush today on his show. Need your help." So somebody from the White House is feeling that I'm sliming them. ScareBaby."

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

"RUSH: Hey, ScareBaby? I understand you're trying to find tape of me saying what I said about you. I'll say some more about you. You are the Democrat mascot: ScareBaby! The Democrat Party's entire political agenda depends on fear of pregnancy. Stop and think about that. Not to mention literally terrorizing babies in the womb. Fear of pregnancy. Stop and think what the Democrats are putting out there."

Response to oldtime dfl_er (Original post)

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
47. What is his point? Is he against the tax cut?
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 10:17 PM
Feb 2012

It's going to be hard for the Republicans to win the election without the support of many of the people who could use an extra $40 a month.

creeksneakers2

(7,473 posts)
50. Rush and the vast right wing conspiracy hate the SS tax cut
Tue Feb 14, 2012, 11:58 PM
Feb 2012

They want every cent of any tax cut to go to the super wealthy. They say cutting SS taxes won't create jobs, but tax cuts to the wealthy would.

You are right about how this looked for Republicans. They've caved in on the issue.

Mimosa

(9,131 posts)
60. So happy you're here, Oldtime dfl_er!
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:57 AM
Feb 2012

*hugs*

and good energy!!! your way.
]
What worries me is the antagonism and hatred Limbaugh's followers expressed. They are scary.

Spazito

(50,365 posts)
62. I just read the KOS diary on what happened to you....
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 12:12 PM
Feb 2012

I hope you get help to nail the POS Rush in court AND get a public retraction and apology from the creep!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
63. I've listened to Rush for years....
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 12:53 PM
Feb 2012

...and this is typical of him.

He's a blowhard who spews lies and distortions. He relies on the fact that his audience
members are incredibly gullible and hanging on his every word like dullard weasels
with no critical-thinking skills.

Rush is rarely called out--because his listeners aren't astute enough to know when he's lying
and the majority that doesn't care--assumes that Rush is a clown.

This is typically what happens when Rush is called out for lies and disinformation. Notice
that at first, Rush said that Scarebaby didn't exist and was the White House writing fake
tweets.

Now that the real Scarebaby has emerged, Rush is turning up the volume. Typical. He
throws tantrums when he's wrong and revealed as the idiot that he is. Watch. He'll
launch never-ending tirades about this situation and how evil the Democrats are and
blah, blah, blah. Seriously. He'll spend hours on this. Rush has a very thin skin. He's
a whiney baby. I've heard this hundreds of times.

He won't EVER address his initial LIES--that Scarebaby wasn't real and was the White House
tweeting. Rush will cloud the issue, throw a tantrum, raise his voice and babble on and
on like a fool. It's like a teenager who gets in trouble for driving the car into a pole and
then throws herself on the ground and screams, "You never let me do anything!! You guys
are mean!!"

Anything to cover up the fact that what Rush said was an embarrassing lie.

And of COURSE--anyone who tries to point out the fact that Rush got it wrong--will be viewed
as evil and horrible. Up is down. Truth is bad. Lies are good. Hence is the world of
Rush Limbaugh and his lemming listeners.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
75. Yes, Rush's lies are often multi-leveled...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:15 PM
Feb 2012

He doesn't just say that you don't exist. He flat out accuses the White House
of faking a person and twittering to themselves.

Rush is an idiot. A complete idiot.

And just because some of Rush's callers are fake and staged--doesn't mean that the rest
of the country is engaging in the same kind of pathetic shenanigans.

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
71. a few
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:41 PM
Feb 2012

but each one is a counterbalance to the filth, lies and threats that are being posted in various "conservative" forums around the web!

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
72. Rush lies like a rug...
Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:43 PM
Feb 2012

More like a fat bear rug.

Except he's a lot fatter than any bear... And uglier too.

He's probably pretty hairy… Except for maybe a body wax before heading to some Caribbean island for a sex tour.

That's a disturbing thought.

Anyway, he lies.

How can I tell when he's lying?

His lips are moving.

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