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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:41 PM Jun 2013

Can the disabled filibuster?

The Texas filibuster rules seem to have been written by the international Olympic committee, so plain are they that what is being described is a primarily athletic undertaking. You must stand. You cannot be in contact with any item or structure that might support you... your thighs cannot press on the edge of a desk. I don't think you can gasp a podium. You must speak continually and about the bill in question.

The first thing that came to mind was, is a disabled legislator simply unable to hold the floor? Can anyone just interrupt someone in a wheelchair because he or she is not standing?

I don't recall whether Max Cleland ever tried a filibuster when he was in the senate. Would foul have been called? I realize that some elderly men have pulled off impressive filibusters historically, but their relative prowess in standing shouldn't even be a factor.

Archaic rule is archaic.

I love it when it does something good, like last night in TX, but in general it is a truly ridiculous concept. The fact that both US Senate cloakrooms are equiped with catheters (they are) should have gone out with wooden teeth.

I know of no reason that an athlete should enjoy any procedural advantage versus any other legislator. It's like, "The chair shall first recognize the tallest member present," or, "whoosoever shall pull this sword from the stone shall be President Pro Tempore."

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Can the disabled filibuster? (Original Post) cthulu2016 Jun 2013 OP
Seems like they would have exceptions for people with disabilities, ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #1
Since ability is a sliding scale... cthulu2016 Jun 2013 #3
Good point, in my opinion. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #5
S/he who can hold their bladder longest rules!! n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #2
There is no rule against peeing your pants. cthulu2016 Jun 2013 #4
Wendy Davis herself wears a back brace KamaAina Jun 2013 #6
Good questions? longship Jun 2013 #7
You raise a very good point. bluedigger Jun 2013 #8

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
1. Seems like they would have exceptions for people with disabilities,
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jun 2013

but I don't know for sure. Good question.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
3. Since ability is a sliding scale...
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:52 PM
Jun 2013

If it is plain that someone should not have a rules advantage over someone confined to a wheelchair, what about someone who just has poor circulation, fallen arches or had knee surgery a few years back, if you see what I mean.

I have no recognized disability, but I couldn't stand for 13 hours. And so on.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
4. There is no rule against peeing your pants.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:53 PM
Jun 2013

So it is really, "Whoever just doesn't give a flying F' about anything rules."

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
6. Wendy Davis herself wears a back brace
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:56 PM
Jun 2013

the repukes had the temerity to issue her a warning when she had another senator help her adjust it!

I don't think the U.S. Senate rules, even for a real filibuster rather than the watered-down variety Harry Reid left us stuck with , are nearly as harsh. But it's not just Cleland. Imagine Susan Collins with her sporadic dysphoria speaking for 13 hours straight!

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. Good questions?
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 03:58 PM
Jun 2013

Indeed, Max Cleland or Tammy Duckworth.

Although I would like to think that both of them could make a go at it.

The rules do seemed rigged to stop filibusters altogether. So why even have the darn things if you are going to do that?

But I suppose it might be long tradition in TX Senate just as it is in the US Senate.

What would be interesting is to know the history of these rules. How and when were they adopted?

That might reveal a lot.

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bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
8. You raise a very good point.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jun 2013

It seems like the Texas Senate is not in compliance with the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act).

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