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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:50 PM Jun 2013

Doma down, and the Civil rights butchered, same court, same week?

Ok, I do not mean to rain on the LGBT parade, nor downplay the civil rights voters, but I am confused, how can the same court do two diverse rulings in one week?

I hate being paranoid, but can this be some sort of divide and conquer power play,something to say "Hey, white LGBT, screw the minorities, join Andrew Sullivan and Glenn Greenwald over here on the right wing."

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Doma down, and the Civil rights butchered, same court, same week? (Original Post) DonCoquixote Jun 2013 OP
MUCH too simplistic, elleng Jun 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #2
The difference is Kennedy LuvLoogie Jun 2013 #3
Bless your little ol heart. William769 Jun 2013 #4
I am not saying most LGBT would buy that. DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #6
No. One individual man with personal idiosyncrasies did both things cthulu2016 Jun 2013 #5
My conspiracy theory Serenades Jun 2013 #7
R#1 & K, for, yip, that's my take. n/t UTUSN Jun 2013 #8

elleng

(130,927 posts)
1. MUCH too simplistic,
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:55 PM
Jun 2013

and a real mistake. EVERY court decision, ESPECIALLY a Supreme Court decision, MUST be read and analyzed on its own.

I look forward to seeing Linda Greenhouse's analysis, in NYT, some time shortly.

Response to DonCoquixote (Original post)

LuvLoogie

(7,008 posts)
3. The difference is Kennedy
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 07:12 PM
Jun 2013

the four on the left and four on the right have been consistent. The vote in either was 5 to four. Roberts, Alito, Scalia and Thomas ruled against both the VRA and Marriage Equality. Breyer Ginsberg, Sotomayor and Kagan ruled for both. Kennedy is the swing vote.

Also, look more closely at the rulings where it has been more unanimous, e.g. 7-2 one way or the other.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
6. I am not saying most LGBT would buy that.
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:08 PM
Jun 2013

Indeed,most would not, but in this day and age, anything is possible, and life is stranger than fiction.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
5. No. One individual man with personal idiosyncrasies did both things
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 07:23 PM
Jun 2013

Kennedy was the swing vote on both cases.

No conspiracy theory is required to explain one man having seemingly inconsistent views.

Most individuals hold some inconsistent views.

Serenades

(291 posts)
7. My conspiracy theory
Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:18 PM
Jun 2013

Divide and conqueror. Set blacks against LGBTQ even thought they should be natural allies. Giving more power to states can affect same sex marriages in some states, if I understand correctly...

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