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One of the greatest honors I've had in my years of writing about politics is the opportunity to work with and befriend my long-time political hero, Daniel Ellsberg. I never quite understood why the Nixon administration, in response to his release of the Pentagon Papers, would want to break into the office of Ellsberg's psychoanalyst and steal his files. That always seemed like a non sequitur to me: how would disclosing Ellsberg's most private thoughts and psychosexual assessments discredit the revelations of the Pentagon Papers?
When I asked Ellsberg about that several years ago, he explained that the state uses those tactics against anyone who dissents from or challenges it simply to distract from the revelations and personally smear the person with whatever they can find to make people uncomfortable with the disclosures.
So I've been fully expecting those kinds of attacks since I began my work on these NSA leaks. The recent journalist-led "debate" about whether I should be prosecuted for my reporting on these stories was precisely the sort of thing I knew was coming.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/26/nsa-revelations-response-to-smears
It's no longer about Snowden; it's all about Glenn.
Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)Snowden could have simply said that there is a massive espionage program going on in the US and had a debate on that. He could have told friendly Senators what was going on and we would have had a debate. He could have gone to the media and revealed the nature of program.
Instead he has chosen to release specific details...and that was uncalled for...and has damaged our security program.
He fled to China and now Russia, our rivals if not enemies. Doesn't that tell you something?
Smear tactics?? He is a liar and a traitor and if some chose to call that patriotism, count me out..
Those that support him because they say our liberties are in danger are no different that those that say their rights are in danger because someone wants to check their backgrounds before they buy an assault rifle ..Tell me what is their response if there is a major attack on an American city because of his actions?
Those that compare Obama to Hitler are no different from Palin and Bachmann and Beck who say Obama hates white people and has no American values..
Smear him? No need to do that.he had done it to himself ..He deserves jail
RC
(25,592 posts)If he had done what you have suggested, no one would have heard of Edward Snowden, as he was quietly disappeared.
Gone to the media? In this country? Surely you jest.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)with the ol ...constitution is just a damn piece of paper.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)persecuted and prosecuted for their efforts. Each of them have flat out stated that they understand why he took the route that he did because going the route that they tried ended up with them losing their CAREERS (not just their jobs) and tens of thousands of legal fees.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Th1onein
(8,514 posts)You know, Thomas Drake, who tried to go through the proper channels, and whose life was ruined for his efforts? You know, Thomas Drake who now works in an Apple retail store? Like that, you mean?
And, by the way, no one is comparing Obama to Hitler, but there are many of us who do NOT want to be spied on by our fucking government. It's that simple.
This isn't about Snowden. Or Greenwald. Or even Obama. It's about surveillance. GET IT?
OilemFirchen
(7,143 posts)It always is.
If you weren't such an abysmal failure as a pseudo-journalist, if you actually followed some basic journalistic methods, if you didn't twist everything to conform to your pitifully moronic political philosophy, and if you didn't spend the majority of your useless life promoting yourself, rather than penning articles of interest, then perhaps you wouldn't "inevitably be the target of all sorts of personal attacks and smears".
Fact is, if you were a journalist of merit, you'd actually have an epidermis. I can fucking see the blood coursing through your blue veins every time you open your gullet.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)similar about you when I read your post.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
quinnox
(20,600 posts)Yuck. This article should be re-posted by a progressive.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)How does suggesting Greenwald is an egotistical attention hound discredit the information he helped put forward?
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)nt
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Because this sort of character-assassination bullshit works. People are dumb.
"Don't talk about the American Stasi, argue about Snowden!"
"Don't talk about the Pentagon Papers, argue about how Ellsberg's crazy!"
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)After all, didn't the NAZIS like dogs, too?
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)1) Greenwald shown kicking a dog. (Unlikely - he has 10, 8 of which were rescued off the streets of Rio and found homes for 6 puppies which he flew around the world to adopting families at his own expense... but I digress.)
2) Some DUers cheer him because he is not like a Nazi who loved dogs.
3) Some DUers boo him because those DUers ARE akin to dog-loving Nazis
Okey-doke.
Maybe you could help me out here because I don't know which to choose:
#1 - I am not a Nazi because I am a supporter of a hypothetical dog-kicker.
#2 - I am a DUer and Nazi because I like dogs.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)nt
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...that it was all "about Snowden". So saying "It's no longer about Snowden" is rather a non sequitur, and really just a lazy man's barb.
Furthermore, while it is true that Snowden is being smeared much more vigorously, Greenwald is also being smeared. His journalism is being openly challenged by so-called "journalists" who wouldn't know a real news story if it came up and bit them three times on the ass.
You seem to think he has no right to answer his critics. That when David Gregory asks Greenwald whether he should be arrested for doing what investigative reporters do, he should just sit there and take it. That when Joyce Reid says he is lying about his involvement with Snowden, he should remain silent. That when other journalists say he should be arrested, he should not make his own case in whatever forums he has access to.
That is absurd.