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CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:54 AM Jun 2013

You think the damage done to the Voting Rights Act is going to help us?

Following VRA Ruling, Perry Signs New Texas Congressional Map Into Law

TOM KLUDT 6:32 AM EDT, THURSDAY JUNE 27, 2013


Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) on Wednesday signed a new congressional district for the state into law, a move that would have required federal approval prior to the Supreme Court's ruling on the Voting Rights Act (VRA).

Perry's action, confirmed by an aide to Roll Call, was a day removed from the Supreme Court's decision to gut Section 5 from the landmark 1965 civil rights law. Prior to the court's ruling, Section 5 required Texas — as well as other states with a history of racial discrimination — to clear any changes to its voting laws, including redistricting, with the federal government.

Texas Republicans attempted to pass an even more advantageous map last year, but a federal court struck it down, citing Section 5 of the 1965 law. Another federal court subsequently ordered them to pass an interim map and, last month, Perry called a special session to pass the interim map. Legislators passed the map this week.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/following-vra-ruling-perry-signs-new-texas-congressional?ref=fpb


The Voting Rights Act stopped this from happening, until some of its most important provisions were gutted.

Anyone who thinks this will help us by galvanizing our voters is ignoring whether harsh voter ID laws and discriminatory redistricting will let our voters actually make a difference.
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Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
1. I wonder about this reasoning too.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:57 AM
Jun 2013

This in a country that let a president be selected, rather than elected, and let him steal the next election outright. A country which has been neglecting serious documented allegations of voting fraud for decades now.

Why do people expect a revolution on this issue now?
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
11. And a country where war criminals get to laugh and scratch on The View.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:21 AM
Jun 2013

We are getting to, or have gotten to, a point where massive civil dis obedience will be needed, if not out right rev ol ution. We have passed the tipping point of convincing our "elected" (read "bought and paid for&quot representatives to turn things around.

NSA disclaimer - Nothing in this post is intended to indicate that the poster does or does not condone or indorse any kind of actions, legal or illegal, that may appear to be contrary to the wishes of our glorious authoritarian leaders. Dog bless the Cabal.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
2. I think it will hurt unless something comes out of Congress to
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:58 AM
Jun 2013

improve or replace it. I'm not counting on the House being on board with doing anything since the Teabaggers call the agenda. I think efforts should be put toward firming up the coalitions of minorities, women, and the LGBTQ communities. We need to hang together more than ever and to follow through at local and state level to with candidate selection and GOTV.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
3. I hope the Justice Department stays on top of this
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:58 AM
Jun 2013

I do think this will make minorities angry, and will likely GOTV--hopefully. My concern is many will just give up, thinking it won't do any good to vote, and that no matter who they vote for the deck is stacked against them.

Best case scenario: Minorities get angry, get organized, and show up in unprecedented numbers. Voting is a basic right in this country, the GOP has no grounds to screw around with it. I hope the actions of the Republican Party on this, women's rights issues, and all the other things they're trying to take away is ultimately their undoing. I hope their actions result in them being the minority party for many years to come.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
4. I'm surprised anyone would think this could help us.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 09:59 AM
Jun 2013

Even before the ruling, the Republicans were pretty damn successful in re-districting and disenfranchising. I'm heartbroken over this ruling -- and scared.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
5. Only if the DNC makes an issue of GOP taking away AMERICANS votes, if they don't then yes
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:01 AM
Jun 2013

...it will hurt and hurt bad

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. Eventually, the RW will fail under the weight of their own stupidity.
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:04 AM
Jun 2013

And the fact that our numbers will crush them.

Bill Moyers was on Colbert last night and said as much.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
10. Tend to agree but our numbers won't crush them if our numbers aren't allowed to vote and won't
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:15 AM
Jun 2013

take to the streets.

Bryn

(3,621 posts)
7. K&R This thread needs to be discussed
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:08 AM
Jun 2013

I do not fully understand the Supreme Court's ruling on the Voting Rights Act (VRA) means.

Bryn

(3,621 posts)
12. Thanks for the link
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:44 AM
Jun 2013

Many comments are interesting.

History of Republican Party and Democratic Party is weird. In the past Republicans used to be Liberal and Democrats used to be racist and religious & were mostly in the South. Now the parties have switched. Confusing, isn't it?

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
13. Times change. Neither party existed in the early history of the country. Where it hurts dems
Thu Jun 27, 2013, 10:54 AM
Jun 2013

is when the repugs dredge up the past and use it scare people to vote repug in the south. Which you can see they do.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
15. The answer/solution to this problem is simple.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 07:09 AM
Jun 2013

All the Federal gov't has to do is clear demand ALL redistricting goes through them. Isn't that the crux of the matter, that some states were being treated unevenly? Well, if the Fed looks at and approves all redistricting plans, then they can't claim it's being done unfairly.

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