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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:47 PM Jun 2013

Anderson Cooper: 'Why Does Alec Baldwin Get a Pass When He Uses Gay Slurs?'

Alec Baldwin's recent Twitter rant/meltdown (which included the former 30 ROCK star calling Daily Mail reporter George Stark a "toxic little queen&quot , has caused modern news legend Anderson Cooper to pose an interesting - and necessary - question.

The CNN anchor posted: @andersoncooper: "Why does #AlecBaldwin get a pass when he uses gay slurs? If a conservative talked of beating up a "queen" they would be vilified."


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http://tv.broadwayworld.com/article/Anderson-Cooper-Why-Does-Alec-Baldwin-Get-a-Pass-When-He-Uses-Gay-Slurs-20130629

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Anderson Cooper: 'Why Does Alec Baldwin Get a Pass When He Uses Gay Slurs?' (Original Post) cali Jun 2013 OP
politics wingzeroday Jun 2013 #1
I saw some of that here on DU Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #2
did Baldwin say he wanted to beat the guy up? burnodo Jun 2013 #3
well wingzeroday Jun 2013 #5
ok, gotcha burnodo Jun 2013 #9
yeah wingzeroday Jun 2013 #16
for the same reason that Tracy Morgan got one dsc Jun 2013 #4
Unless it comes from a conservative. Cooper has a good point methinks n/t shadowrider Jun 2013 #6
Chris Rock? Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #7
meant Tracy Morgan dsc Jun 2013 #8
Good. I would have been proundly upset. Behind the Aegis Jun 2013 #12
Chris Rock, Big Star. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #20
Chris uses slurs againt gay people. Says he has the right to say faggot, has 20 minutes of Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #15
Al Sharpton used to call people 'faggots' all the time. In public. He now condemns those Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #10
Yes, and that was wrong. But Baldwin still does this in 2013 and it's inexcusable. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #13
It was wrong, and 'forgiven' by straights. Paula's slur was longer in the past than Al's. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #18
I don't watch his show and I don't particularly like him. I still remember pnwmom Jun 2013 #22
Or misogynistic slurs, or has a temper tantrum with flight attendants? pnwmom Jun 2013 #11
Because GLAAD likes to rub elbows with celebrities Prism Jun 2013 #14
True. They are completely agog over celebrity and allow switch hitting. Safetykitten Jun 2013 #25
Not from me. It was a fucked up homophobic thing to say. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #17
Same reason Tracy Morgan got a pass: Tina Fey demands her pals be allowed to hurt others. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #19
Why do DUers get a pass for comparing us to tomato plants after calling us pedophile after Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #21
and that is horrifying, but I thought that Skinner had cali Jun 2013 #24
I was wondering the same thing this morning. n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2013 #23
This is no different than the racist words used by Paula Deen. last1standing Jun 2013 #26
Shit, the President's homophobia got a pass for years. The Link Jun 2013 #27
He shouldn't get a pass. premium Jun 2013 #28
Alec Baldwin will get a pass on just about anything because he is indepat Jun 2013 #29

Cirque du So-What

(25,965 posts)
2. I saw some of that here on DU
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:51 PM
Jun 2013

when this story first appeared. Some attempted to deflect from the slurs Alec Baldwin made by pointing out how evil and mercenary the paparazzi are, but I'd bet good money that argument wouldn't even appear if the person saying such things had been a conservative.

 

burnodo

(2,017 posts)
3. did Baldwin say he wanted to beat the guy up?
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:53 PM
Jun 2013

I'm not saying Baldwin should be forgiven for using a slur

dsc

(52,166 posts)
4. for the same reason that Tracy Morgan got one
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:55 PM
Jun 2013

and the same reason Tony Perkins is still permitted on CNN. Being anti gay is not perceived as that big a sin.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
15. Chris uses slurs againt gay people. Says he has the right to say faggot, has 20 minutes of
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:03 PM
Jun 2013

material about why anything he says is allowed and not a slur but others best watch what they say about him. Now I like Chris, do not think he's a bigot, and have worked with him. He's full of shit and has a foul, bigoted lexicon.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
10. Al Sharpton used to call people 'faggots' all the time. In public. He now condemns those
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jun 2013

who do what he did. He got a pass and an anchor desk from which to opine as return for his slurs. He said sorry. Years later.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
18. It was wrong, and 'forgiven' by straights. Paula's slur was longer in the past than Al's.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jun 2013

Just saying. He is not only famous, but a famous commentator on social issues. Faggot shouter. Why is he allowed a network news desk with that background? You tell me. What did Al do to make amends? You tell me, it is you who have forgiven him. Why did you do that? Dig his show?

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
22. I don't watch his show and I don't particularly like him. I still remember
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:18 PM
Jun 2013

when he was going after the Duke students who were falsely accused of rape, and I wasn't impressed with him then, either.

But this was about Baldwin, who -- unlike some others -- seems to have learned nothing from his mistakes.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
11. Or misogynistic slurs, or has a temper tantrum with flight attendants?
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:00 PM
Jun 2013

I've been aware of the bully side of him ever since the tape of him came out screaming at his daughter in a belittling, demeaning way.

He has good progressive credentials so some people will always like him, but I think he's a bully and a bigot.

 

Prism

(5,815 posts)
14. Because GLAAD likes to rub elbows with celebrities
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:02 PM
Jun 2013

It's long been known in the LGBT community that GLAAD is a collection of starf*ckers.

Their nonresponse to Baldwin's repeated antics has surprised absolutely no one.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. Same reason Tracy Morgan got a pass: Tina Fey demands her pals be allowed to hurt others.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jun 2013

Tina TOLD the world Tracy was great after he said that shit, she did the same for Alec. She does this because her owner, Lorne, tells her to.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
21. Why do DUers get a pass for comparing us to tomato plants after calling us pedophile after
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:26 PM
Jun 2013

calling us every name in the book? Skinner allows people to post here who repeatedly say horrific things and whose history makes it clear that they have always done so.
Why does Skinner issue passes to homophobes which he would be ashamed to issue to racists? He does not see the two things as anything close to the same. Equating us to houseplants and criminals is 'understandable' to the bulk of the straight community, cali.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. and that is horrifying, but I thought that Skinner had
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:39 PM
Jun 2013

finally clamped down. Am I wrong? Piss on people here who do that.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
26. This is no different than the racist words used by Paula Deen.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jun 2013

I find it striking that both Baldwin and Deen used the same deflection to avoid having to honestly apologize to those they've insulted, "Well they use those words so why can't I?"

Let's be clear, a white person cannot call a black person "n***er" and a straight person cannot call a gay person a "toxic little queen" or a "f**got." Yes, a person within that community can use those terms. This is because they are directing those terms at those they have that common bond with.

If you insult your wife a "bitch" during your nightly "dirty talk" that doesn't mean I have the right to call her one when I see her in the grocery store. If you make fun of the knobbly knees that run in your family that doesn't mean I have license to rag on your mother's appearance. There are times when certain comments are acceptable and when they're not. Just because a word exists and someone else has used it doesn't mean it isn't hurtful when someone else says it.

I don't know why this is even debated.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
28. He shouldn't get a pass.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:57 PM
Jun 2013

A liberal like Alec going on a homophobic rant is just as bad as a conservative like Limpballs and both should be condemned equally.
One's just as bad as the other.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
29. Alec Baldwin will get a pass on just about anything because he is
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:12 PM
Jun 2013

Alec Baldwin. But beware, Alec, there is a line that even Alec Baldwin cannot cross.

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