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[OilemFirchen]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/info/2013/jun/30/taken-down

Taken down: deals to hand over private data to America

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guardian.co.uk, Saturday 29 June 2013 19.04 EDT

This article has been taken down pending an investigation.

[SidDithers]

1. Maybe The Guardian realized that Wayne Madsen is a fucking loon...

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Here's a link to a pastebin of the original version of the article:

http://newswithtags.com/Europe/pastebin-revealed-secret-european-deals-to-hand-over-private-data-to-america----germany#.Uc_Dvcu9KSM

Sid

[DevonRex]

3. You can find info on Germany's own SIGINT sites here:

http://buggedplanet.info/index.php?title=DE#SIGINT.2FCOMINT_Stations_and_Operators

As you can see they collect their own data, apart from working with us. And they do also work side by side with us - still.

Main site:
http://buggedplanet.info/index.php?title=Buggedplanet.info:About

You can search for any country.

[OilemFirchen]

2. Greenwald's Guardian Goes Goofy. Observer Overshoots!

Tomorrow's print edition:

:large

[SidDithers]

4. A new version of the article is up...

and no mention of Wayne Madsen is anywhere to be found.



I'm going to bookmark this thread for the next time someone uses Madsen as a source at DU.

Sid

[DevonRex]

5. Madsen is definitely a crackpot.

The other countries are being incredibly hypocritical, though. I think the agreements in the original article may be a little off. I haven't read the new one yet. You might find some of this interesting, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signals_intelligence_operational_platforms_by_nation#Germany:_Ground_Platforms

You can even see who launched the satellites for the countries listed. And even though it's gobbledygook to most people, the description of Army and Marine tactical sigint operations is accurate. Amazingly, it's the same as I used way back when. And we worked directly with NSA. People have the wrong idea about NSA's mission. They don't have time to give a flying fuck about what anybody needs to pick up from the market on the way home from work. Or whether they vote or for whom they vote.

[SidDithers]

6. Thanks for the additional info...

Sid