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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSALON: James Clapper is still lying to America
James Clapper is still lying to AmericaA smoking gun shows Director of National Intelligence James Clapper is a big liar -- and it's not the first time
James Clapper Is Still Lying that would be a more honest headline for yesterdays big Washington Post article about the Director of National Intelligences letter to the U.S. Senate.
Clapper, you may recall, unequivocally said no, sir in response to Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) asking him: Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? Clappers response was shown to be a lie by Snowdens disclosures, as well as by reports from the Guardian, The Washington Post, The Associated Press and Bloomberg News (among others). This is particularly significant, considering lying before Congress prevents the legislative branch from performing oversight and is therefore a felony.
Upon Snowdens disclosures, Clapper initially explained his lie by insisting that his answer was carefully and deliberately calculated to be the least most untruthful response to a question about classified information. Left unmentioned was the fact that he could have simply given the same truthful answer that Alberto Gonzales gave the committee in 2006.
Now, though, Clapper is wholly changing his story, insisting that his answer wasnt a deliberate, carefully calibrated least most untruthful response it was instead just a spur-of-the-moment accident based on an innocent misunderstanding. Indeed, as the Post reports, Clapper sent a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee on June 21 saying that he had misunderstood the question he had been asked and adding that he thought Wyden was referring to NSA surveillance of e-mail traffic involving overseas targets, not the separate program in which the agency is authorized to collect records of Americans phone calls. In his letter, Clapper says, My response was clearly erroneous for which I apologize and added that mistakes will happen, and when I make one, I correct it.
James Clapper Is Still Lying that would be a more honest headline for yesterdays big Washington Post article about the Director of National Intelligences letter to the U.S. Senate.
Clapper, you may recall, unequivocally said no, sir in response to Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) asking him: Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? Clappers response was shown to be a lie by Snowdens disclosures, as well as by reports from the Guardian, The Washington Post, The Associated Press and Bloomberg News (among others). This is particularly significant, considering lying before Congress prevents the legislative branch from performing oversight and is therefore a felony.
Upon Snowdens disclosures, Clapper initially explained his lie by insisting that his answer was carefully and deliberately calculated to be the least most untruthful response to a question about classified information. Left unmentioned was the fact that he could have simply given the same truthful answer that Alberto Gonzales gave the committee in 2006.
Now, though, Clapper is wholly changing his story, insisting that his answer wasnt a deliberate, carefully calibrated least most untruthful response it was instead just a spur-of-the-moment accident based on an innocent misunderstanding. Indeed, as the Post reports, Clapper sent a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee on June 21 saying that he had misunderstood the question he had been asked and adding that he thought Wyden was referring to NSA surveillance of e-mail traffic involving overseas targets, not the separate program in which the agency is authorized to collect records of Americans phone calls. In his letter, Clapper says, My response was clearly erroneous for which I apologize and added that mistakes will happen, and when I make one, I correct it.
A quick read (it's short) with a punch to the solar plexus in the last paragraph. Worth your time!
PB
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SALON: James Clapper is still lying to America (Original Post)
Poll_Blind
Jul 2013
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Octafish
(55,745 posts)1. Sirota is an excellent reporter.
The last graph spells things out, for bankster and superspy alike:
Out of all people, he has to understand that equal protection under the law means treating Clapper (and Alexander, who also lied to Congress) exactly the same way his administration treated pitcher Roger Clemens. Otherwise, the message from the government would be that lying to Congress about baseball is more of a felony than lying to Congress about Americans 4th amendment rights. Such a message would declare that when it comes to brazen law breaking, as long as you are personally connected to the president, you get protection rather than the prosecution you deserve.
Out of all people, he has to understand that equal protection under the law means treating Clapper (and Alexander, who also lied to Congress) exactly the same way his administration treated pitcher Roger Clemens. Otherwise, the message from the government would be that lying to Congress about baseball is more of a felony than lying to Congress about Americans 4th amendment rights. Such a message would declare that when it comes to brazen law breaking, as long as you are personally connected to the president, you get protection rather than the prosecution you deserve.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)2. k&r
:kick:
suffragette
(12,232 posts)3. "...lying about his deliberate lie"
This analysis by Sirota is spot on:
So Clapper had a full days notice of the specific and impossible to misunderstand question Wyden asked, and is nonetheless now claiming that in the heat of the moment he spontaneously misunderstood the question. In other words, hes not coming clean, as the Post story seems to imply. On the contrary, hes lying about his deliberate lie, which should only make a perjury prosecution that much easier, for it shows intent.
Solly Mack
(90,779 posts)4. K&R
Bake
(21,977 posts)5. Hope and change!!
Bullshit. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
I don't believe one word that comes out of our government's mouth, regardless of party, from the President on down.
Screw it all.
Bake