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Snowden: Man without a country. eom (Original Post) mfcorey1 Jul 2013 OP
Well, I knew a man without a country. RebelOne Jul 2013 #1
yeah...I can't feel sorry for him..he made his bed HipChick Jul 2013 #2
ITA!!!!! mfcorey1 Jul 2013 #3
His own country is trying to hunt him down for revealing their sins to the world usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jul 2013 #4
Snowden's such a fucking Martyr. He could always come home and face what he Cha Jul 2013 #5

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
1. Well, I knew a man without a country.
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 08:29 PM
Jul 2013

I had a neighbor from Ukraine who had drug violations (not selling, but consuming). He was jailed for a few months, and since he was only here on a green card, the U.S. government tried to deport him back to Ukraine, but they refused to take him. I don't know where he is now.

 

usGovOwesUs3Trillion

(2,022 posts)
4. His own country is trying to hunt him down for revealing their sins to the world
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 02:39 AM
Jul 2013

Edward Snowden is a modern day Paul Revere with a thumb drive full of the news that Tyranny is coming!

Cha

(297,442 posts)
5. Snowden's such a fucking Martyr. He could always come home and face what he
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 02:49 AM
Jul 2013

did.. Like MLK and Rosa Parks. They broke the law and didn't run to another fucking country.

Rand Paul and whomever else was claiming "Civil Disobedience" for Snowden is absolutely wrong.. instead of waiting to be arrested and defend his actions in a court of law he high tailed it first and then leaked his stolen documents.

Turning into Snitch Snowden with the speed he sneaked off to China and China and Russia were the grateful recipients.

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Snowden's Uncivil Disobedience

Edward Snowden, the former intelligence analyst who leaked to the Guardian and Washington Post classified documents on the National Security Agency's anti-terrorism surveillance program is not practicing policy-based civil disobedience, or any form of civil disobedience for that matter – despite Sen. Rand Paul's claim to the contrary. His flight to Hong Kong and possible efforts to win asylum from Iceland or China violate a central tenet of the philosophy. Resisters who break a law must accept that they may be arrested and have a duty to submit to punishment.

Moreover, Snowden, to answer a question posed yesterday by Jacob Hayutin on this site, is not a whistle-blower. A whistle-blower is one who reveals to the public wrongdoing, corruption or illegal behavior committed by those in authority, but who also cooperates with investigators as they work to ascertain the veracity of those allegations. Snowden had a chance to properly blow the whistle. He could have reported serious problems associated with the National Security Agency program to Congress under a process established by the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act. The law would have provided Snowden legal protections and given Congress an opportunity to properly investigate the matter without jeopardizing national security.

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As of now, Snowden is an unpredictable variable carrying a trove of information of great value to countries conducting espionage activities against the United States. If Snowden is truly committed to protecting American democracy, to demonstrating civil disobedience, he should voluntarily return to the United States immediately. Otherwise, the government should exercise whatever legal means it has at its disposal to bring him back to the U.S. to face the consequences of his actions.***Snip

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/jamie-chandler/2013/06/18/nsa-leaker-edward-snowden-is-neither-a-whistle-blower-nor-a-civil-disobeyer

A true hero of civil disobedience is Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King..

http://mlk-kpp01.stanford.edu/index.php/resources/article/annotated_letter_from_birmingham

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3155564

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