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cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 06:48 AM Jul 2013

Bolivian President’s Plane Leaves Austria After Diplomatic Scramble

It began as a seemingly offhand remark by the president of Bolivia, who suggested during a visit to Moscow that he might be happy to host Edward J. Snowden, the fugitive former security contractor who is desperate to find asylum. It escalated into a major diplomatic scramble in which the Bolivian president’s plane was rerouted to Austria, apparently because of suspicions that Mr. Snowden was aboard.

After the plane spent 13 hours overnight on the tarmac at the Vienna airport, it took off at 11:30 a.m. on Wednesday, according to Peter Kleemann, a spokesman for the airport. Austrian media reported the plane was bound for Bolivia, but planned to make a stopover in the Canary Islands.

Outraged Bolivian officials, insisting that Mr. Snowden was not on the plane, accused France and Portugal on Tuesday of acting under American pressure to rescind permission for President Evo Morales’s plane to traverse their airspace on the way back to Bolivia. Low on fuel, the plane’s crew won permission to land in Vienna.

Bolivia’s ambassador to the United Nations, Sacha Llorentty Solíz, said in Geneva on Wednesday that he believed the order to divert the plane came from the United States, Reuters reported. The ambassador added that the search of the plane violated international law, the report said.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/04/world/snowden.html?_r=0

Disgraceful that they grounded it.

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idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
1. That's fucking criminal to boot. The plane was LOW ON FUEL. I don't give a fuck who was aboard.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 07:11 AM
Jul 2013

Even if it was carrying Cheney, Bush and the rest of the company.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
3. Slight clarification, the gauge suddenly had *technical difficulties* reading the fuel level
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:10 AM
Jul 2013

so "there was "no clear indication" that the plane had enough fuel to continue on its journey."

It was a precaution landing and was reported several times earlier. Now they're dishonestly changing it to "low on fuel" as if Morales took off from Moscow with a low tank.

FMCnl ‏@FMCnl 13h

Bolivia Air Force FAB001 flight President #Morales precaution landing Vienna due fuel indication failure http://goo.gl/MJsRX #Snowden

https://twitter.com/FMCnl/status/352189322033758210


Here is the audio: "We need to land because we can not get a correct indication of the fuel indication"

http://s3.amazonaws.com/boos.audioboo.fm/attachments/5110884/bolivian-air-force-fuerza-aerea-boliviana-fab001-landing-vienna-austria.mp3?AWSAccessKeyId=1K04FNJW0TJXZ6BV2WG2&Expires=1372858193&Signature=%2FDW2UDcQVpxLZkIiKjFS1%2BeTTzE%3D&audio_clip_id=1482009



idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
4. Thank you for clarification BUT it doesn't really matter in terms of reaction of traffic control.
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:21 AM
Jul 2013

The only safe assumption should have been 'plane IS low on fuel' and must be issued permission for safe landing.

I remember all to well the Air Transat Flight 236.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_236

Air Transat Flight 236 was an Air Transat flight bound for Lisbon, Portugal from Toronto, Canada that lost all power while flying over the Atlantic Ocean on August 24, 2001. The Airbus A330-243 suffered a complete power outage due to a fuel leak caused by improper maintenance. Captain Robert Piché and First Officer Dirk de Jager were able to glide the plane to a successful emergency landing in the Azores, saving all 306 people (293 passengers and 13 crew) on board.[1]

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
7. Most definitely
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:44 AM
Jul 2013

but keep that technical tidbit tucked away because more might come out after this. I don't know if it will, or even if it's related, but the French have the ability to remote-affect the Dassault jets they sell. They did it during the Iraq war to knock out Saddam's Air Force. I'm not saying... just noting.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. I agree
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:55 AM
Jul 2013

We don't know who made the accusation. Everyone is assuming it is the US, but there are plenty of people with the motive to cause problems.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
10. Agree...Especially since Assange is now saying he is being bugged...
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:07 AM
Jul 2013

sounds like a lot of Assange drama to me

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
16. That reminds me..didn't he say he was going to reveal who was bugging him today?
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 08:48 PM
Jul 2013

I am sure there was a thread on it on DU

UTUSN

(70,719 posts)
14. So all the passports WERE checked & a search WAS done, wow. But when will presidents learn not
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 10:13 AM
Jul 2013

to talk off the cuff or joke, (MADURO/Venezuela: ) "Gotta go, SNOWDEN is waiting for me!1"

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