Spanish FM: Spain doesn't owe any apology to Bolivia.

[Catherina]

Last edited Fri Jul 5, 2013, 11:27 AM - Edit history (3)

Spain's Minister of Foreign Affairs, José Manuel García-Margallo, stated on an interview on TVE that Spain "doesn't need to make any apology to Bolivia" and that they were informed that the former CIA agent Edward Snowden was traveling on the plane.

El ministro español de Exteriores, José Manuel García-Margallo, aseguró en una entrevista en TVE que España “no tiene que pedir ninguna disculpa a Bolivia” y que fueron informados de que el ex colaborador de la CIA Edward Snowden viajaba en el avión.

Texto completo en: http://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/view/99238-espana-disculpa-morales-snowden

El ministro español de Exteriores, José Manuel García-Margallo, aseguró en una entrevista en TVE que España “no tiene que pedir ninguna disculpa a Bolivia” y que fueron informados de que el ex colaborador de la CIA Edward Snowden viajaba en el avión.
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Spain's Minister of Foreign Affairs, José Manuel García-Margallo, stated on an interview on TVE that Spain "doesn't need to make any apology to Bolivia" and that they were informed that the former CIA agent Edward Snowden was traveling on the plane.

García-Margallo asegura que desde un principio les “dijeron que los datos estaban claros” que, en efecto, Snowden viajaba dentro del avión del presidente de Bolivia Evo Morales.

García-Margallo assured that from the beginning they "said the information was clear" that, in effect, Snowden was traveling in the plane of the President of Bolivia Evo Morales.

“Nos pidieron una escala de sobrevuelo y hacer escala en Canarias porque no podían hacerla en las Azores, y se la concedimos”, indicó el ministro, aclarando que su ministerio recibió una notificación de La Paz en la que se aseguraba que el ex analista de la CIA no viajaba en el avión que partía desde Viena. Y nosotros —dice— “no dudamos en la palabra de un país amigo”

"We were asked for an overflight and stopover in the Canaries because they could not make one in the Azores, and we conceded" the minister said, noting that his ministry received notification from La Paz in which they claimed that former CIA analyst was not on the plane that was leaving from Vienna. And we - he said- "do not doubt the word of a friendly country."

Texto completo en: http://actualidad.rt.com/actualidad/view/99238-espana-disculpa-morales-snowden

Spain says no reason to apologize to Bolivia in Snowden saga

Reuters

3:22 a.m. EDT, July 5, 2013

MADRID (Reuters) - Spain said on Friday it had no reason to apologize to Bolivia over an incident earlier this week when Bolivian President Evo Morales' plane was diverted on suspicions that fugitive U.S. spy agency contractor Edward Snowden was aboard.

"Spain doesn't have to ask pardon in anyway because its airspace was never closed," said Spanish Foreign Minister Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo in an interview on state television.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/05/us-spain-bolivia-idUSBRE96405820130705

Unbelievable!

If you ask the indigenous Latin Americans, at least in Guatemala, who they hate the most in the world, to this day the answer is the Spanish. The Spanish were racist and cruel beyond belief in Latin America. They exterminated brown people like they were bugs. Stole all the riches they could, the land, this is not a good development. Someone better talk some diplomatic sense into Spain asap.
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"I work off the information I am given, we were told that it was clear he was inside," said the Spanish Minister of Foreign Affairs Jose Manuel Garcia Margallo, during an interview on state television, without specifying the source of the information about Edward Snowden. "The response from all the European countries who took measures, good or bad, was based on the information we received, this was going to happen," he added.

"Je travaille à partir des informations qu'on me donne : on nous a dit qu'il était clair qu'il se trouvait à l'intérieur", a déclaré le ministre des affaires étrangères espagnol, José Manuel Garcia Margallo, lors d'un entretien à la télévision publique, sans préciser la source de ces informations sur Edward Snowden. "La réaction de tous les pays européens, qui ont adopté des mesures, bonnes ou mauvaises, s'est fondée sur l'information que nous avions reçue, que ceci allait se produire", a-t-il ajouté.

http://www.lemonde.fr/ameriques/article/2013/07/05/l-espagne-affirme-avoir-ete-informee-que-snowden-etait-a-bord-de-l-avion-de-morales_3443225_3222.html

A TRILLION dollars a year of our tax money and what do we get for it?

[HooptieWagon]

1. Interesting.

Spain says they were assured Snowden was on the plane...and they don't question the word of a friendly country. Hmmm....since Snowden wasn't on the plane, maybe next time they don't take the word of a friendly country?
And I'm sure Spain won't like it when Bolivia nationalizes Spain's economic interests in Bolivia. Fuck em. Better they go to the Bolivian people.

[Catherina]

2. Spain's conflicting stories don't even make sense

We're dealing with the neocon rendition crew so I guess that should be no surprise.

[Judi Lynn]

3. No sense at all. This clown is treacherous, and doesn't care who knows he's lying,

as in daring Bolivia to do something about it, anyway.

The race hatred in the Spanish oligarchy is leaping right out, isn't it? Jesus H. Christ.

They should NOT be allowed to get the last word on this.

Thank you for this new crappola from a real crap master. He must be living it up, in the land of the murderous, sadistic, super racist conquistadores, and Subhuman monster dictator Franco.

[Catherina]

4. Judy, what is the name of that disgusting filthy rich Spaniard, Spanish descendant

who owned like half of Venezuela. He has a title of nobility and was always riding around on his fancy horses. Do you remember his name?

The race hatred never went away. This is so sad. Spain and Portugal are on the brink of insolvency. They do major trade with these countries and they're jeopardizing their own people's welfare for this? The 1% really doesn't care.

[Judi Lynn]

9. I've been trying to get it, but I have a mental block with the British Lord (Sam) Vestey,

AKA "Lord Spam", who was approached a couple of years after Hugo Chavez was elected, to allow the Venezuelan gov't to buy portions of two of his many (at least 10) vast, VAST latifundias, some land which was NOT in use, had not been in use at all, was lying dormant, idle, to be used by Venezuelan campesinos to farm in order to raise food for themselves, and to sell at market, to sustain a livelihood for their families, and create more food for Venezuselans.

There was an uproar, because, of course, the right-wing Veneauelan oligarchs, just like the ####s here, felt that if one can manage to pull it off, one should be able to grab everything in sight, and to hell with everyone else, and that no one should be able to do anything about it, no matter whom it hurts by that kind of excess.

The people needed the land, and Vestey was compensated for land he never has used, but the incident was fuel for a real free for all from the right-wing Venezuelan hogs, and it ticked off a lot of similar British types, as well.

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I hope I can figure out which Spanish landowner you have in mind. They haven't done the people of Venezuela any huge favors by buying up all the land and not allowing it to be used for agriculture for the country, clearly not people who give a #### about others.

[Catherina]

18. That one's bad enough

Ask me, will I shed a tear when a guillotine is rolled out for that type of person? No. I'll be singing "Just you wait 'enry 'iggins" from My Fair Lady and filing my nails. Leeches. Parisites. Bloodsuckers.
Thank you

[Art_from_Ark]

5. This is turning into a-- the Germans have a word for it--

ah, yes-- shitstorm

[pinboy3niner]

6. i c what u did there

Nice!

[DeSwiss]

7. History begs to differ.

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- You can start by sending back all the shit you stole......


''Pride goeth before a fall......''

K&R

[Judi Lynn]

10. Oh, god. Well, I'm obligated to believe those images.

They've been duplicated in modern times in the Americas, too, and that's absolutely hellacious.

Human beings as demons in their treatment of human beings. What keeps them from killing themselves instead, to avoid doing that to others?

The image burns into your mind, but we do have documents and testimony from survivors of massacres and tortures about this stuff, at the hands of US-supported right-wing butchering monster dictators in the Americas, all done with the blessings of US right-wing administrations, and certain congressmen.

Sad, sad, sad. It's time to throw more light on this filthy history, to cleanse the wound.

[DeSwiss]

16. Indeed we do.....

...have other documents and testimony. Even from the ''great'' man himself, Chris Columbo in his diaries recounts about his system of tribute and how his men found sport with the natives when they got bored plundering and raping. As well as Friar Bartolome de las Casas, a prime malefactor whose conscience would not be silenced and eventually forced him to reconsider the holiness of his acts of repression, and enslavement.

And of course there's also ''The Requiremento'' of 1493 and of 1513 in which The Church gave the Conquistadors Holy Permission to torture, murder and/or confiscate any pagan's land and holdings. Provided the Church got it's standard 10% vic payments. The relics of which remain in the Vatican's vaults to this day, I suppose.

The Requerimiento—a Spanish word meaning “requirement” or “demand”—was a document that was read aloud by the Spanish conquistadores of the early sixteenth century to native peoples in the Americas, demanding that they submit themselves to Spanish rule and to Christianity. In 1493 Pope Alexander VI, in the wake of Christopher Columbus's first voyage across the Atlantic Ocean, had claimed the authority to grant the Spanish monarchy dominion over the New World. The Spanish jurist Juan López de Palacios Rubios then composed the Requerimiento in 1513 to justify the subjugation of the American peoples in the name of God, forcing them to convert to the Catholic Church or face the Spaniards in war. link

- And the cherry on top of all this was when in 2007 Pope Benedict in a speech to Latin American and Caribbean bishops in Brazil said: ''The Church had not imposed itself on the indigenous peoples of the Americas. They had welcomed the arrival of European priests at the time of the conquest as they were "silently longing" for Christianity.''

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[Catherina]

17. It's the old "Let's all sing kumbaya and move forward" of the 1%. [phone] n/t

[MichaelKelley]

8. Hi

If it is correct that Bolivia was informed that the former CIA agent Edward Snowden was traveling on the plane, then I do not think they should apologize, but who knows if Spain is talking correct or not?

[Judi Lynn]

11. Don't think Bolivia needs to apologize to ANYONE. N/T

[Fumesucker]

15. It was a Bolivian plane, I suspect they knew whether Snowden was aboard or not

Welcome to DU!

[idwiyo]

13. I want to know what skeletons he is hiding in his closet. What is it that US told him they know

To make him prostitute himself on their behalf?

[muriel_volestrangler]

14. We need dates and times

If the Spanish said on Tuesday, while the plane was in flight, that it could fly over mainland Spain, and refuel in the Canaries, then they can indeed say "we have nothing to apologise for". If he's talking about Wednesday, when the plane continued from Vienna, then he still needs to explain what the Spanish attitude was on Tuesday.

[KoKo]

19. Recommend...and for the thread comments and info, also...

[MisterP]

20. question is, who's this century's Justo Rufino Barrios?