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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING NEWS for those breaking the news: "We the people" are sick of the "Trumpification" of
your worldview. We cannot recall him ever saying anything true or encouraging or meaningful and we resent any suggestion that he deserves our attention or respect.
Enough.
Unless it is news of his death or video of him being frog-marched in cuffs and an orange jump suit, we do not care about "Trump news".
We have a real POTUS now who is actually trying to combat a real pandemic, real record unemployment and real American hunger. And, we have real Republicans in Congress who don't care for democracy or truth.
THAT is what we'd like go hear about; not Trump flatulence on film.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)SledDriver
(2,059 posts)Trump is effectively above the law. The only constant is his ability to not be punished for any of his actions. Even after he tried to kill them, the GQP still closed ranks to defend him.
PatSeg
(47,586 posts)I believe the courts will be flooded with lawsuits against this charlatan and not just in this country. Trump has used up all his "Get out of Jail Free" cards and he has made too many enemies. The people he has surrounded himself with are just as bad as he is, so most of them will turn on him as well.
He no longer has the presidency to protect him and it is very likely he has very little money left. Essentially, he has no power anymore. Ask the ghosts of any fallen tyrant.
llashram
(6,265 posts)his grifting family, ivana-jarad made 500 million dollars+ off the White House, and it's influence. Trump chumps are still sending the ex-potus POS millions. HE probably will skate till he dies.
ProfessorGAC
(65,168 posts)I know I sounds like a tremendous amount of money, but the Moody's report, plus China & Deutsche Bank suggests he has over $8 billion in debt.
Given his debt load & credit history, he's likely paying over $300 million a year in debt service.
That $500 million is 20 months of interest, not counting paying down principal.
llashram
(6,265 posts)yep I can only hope he is put in financial-civil court check and soon. With Stepen Miller still whispering sweet nothings in his ear about how to avoid, avoid, avoid I do not have much faith in the system anymore. Don'
Trump has lived off of debt his entire life and he has run out of creditors to bail him out. As best I can tell, most if not all of his businesses are losing money. He can only raise so much money off of the chumps he calls his base and that well will dry up eventually. Yes, that $500 million isn't very impressive when you take into consideration how much money he owes and how much money he spends. He is like the guy who uses one credit card to pay the minimum payment on another. Eventually he runs out of credit cards and the bills all come due.
Trump is a terrible businessman and always has been. Money just slips through his fingers and all his cheating couldn't save him. He should start selling off his properties as soon as possible, though he might be too delusional to realize that.
Mr.Bill
(24,319 posts)I'll bet most if not all of them are mortgaged for far more than they are worth.
PatSeg
(47,586 posts)that is probably the case. He is an absolute disaster.
oldsoftie
(12,597 posts)And there is talk about the majority holder forcing him to sell. Two bldgs; one in NYC and the other in SF. If he has to sell it will be a huge impact on his income.
But never underestimate the willing ness of his followers to send him money. He could go on tour like a musical act 7 sell out arenas for the next 3 years and raise well over a billion. Or start some stupid podcast for 100 bucks a yr. If just FIFTEEN PERCENT of his voters sent him 100 bucks a year, thats over ONE BILLION.
He'll never be totally down until the people are no longer feeding him. And i bet Ivanka wont give him a dime
ananda
(28,876 posts)That was their deal with the Russians. We ruin America;
you allow us to grift.
PatSeg
(47,586 posts)I think there is a limit to how much money Putin and his fellow oligarchs are going to waste on Trump. He's already served his purpose.
I wonder how much money Russia has thrown at Trump over the years. I wouldn't be surprised to find out it is in the billion dollar range.
dlk
(11,576 posts)At some point he will be convicted and may even spend time behind bars. Its just a matter of time.
yellowdogintexas
(22,270 posts)with something heinous, with no consequences. Just another reason for him to think he can't lose.
I am disgusted, and dread the crowing and bragacocio to which we are about to be subjected.
Somewhere, somehow - he has to be made to pay.
I prefer the orange suit method but having to pay up a bunch of $$ he does not have is pretty good.
Maybe he will be forced to couch surf for a while
ooky
(8,929 posts)of the slain police officer.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)and it's gonna take a lot more money than I've got to change that. That's why I read foreign news
sources.
Lonestarblue
(10,064 posts)Right-wing media has always been filled with lies that twisted the news into a slam against liberals, but now it has moved on to conspiracy theories and the acceptance of violence as a means of political power. An acquaintance who used to watch only Fox has now moved to only Newsmax, and even more extremist version of reality. Until we somehow deal with the amount of garbage being broadcast, we will have a significant population that hasnt a clue about facts of any sort, whether theyre related to science or to the economy or government.
Given our free speech rights, I have no clue how we reign in these outlets that are in effect preaching insurrection every day. Boycotts dont work very well, and there are enough right-wing donors and corporate advertisers like the pillow guy, the Mercers, the Uihleins, and the Kochs to keep funding extremism because none of them want a government that actually functions.
Tender hopper
(60 posts)a mother-in-law cottage behind Ivanka`s house (or prison)
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)Give him a Fischer-Price toy phone to send out his tweeters on.
Paladin
(28,272 posts)Think of the shit he gets away with, in broad daylight. Then consider what he and his thugs can formulate, while we're not paying attention.
I take second place to no one in my hatred of orange julius. But we have to keep our eyes on him---what remains of our democracy is in mortal danger until that blessed day he no longer struts among us.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)his every belch and utterance needs to be plastered all over the media 24/7 sucking oxygen out of the room.
That's all I understand OP to be saying - and agree with.
And that applies to this forum - and yet here I am respoding to a post about that-which-must-not-be-named.
The irony has not escaped me...
groundloop
(11,522 posts)What gave him the boost he needed to win the GOPer primary was all the free media attention he got that started with his birther bullshit. THAT needs to go away.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)or let's see what he does not what he says. The Sedition Party is finished they are having a war within themselves. That's what catching my attention they are eating their own.
yellowdogintexas
(22,270 posts)Being ignored is what he hates most - that and being made the butt of a joke.
A total blackout on the entire family would be delightful.
The only exception; coverage of him receiving a guilty verdict and his transfer in an orange jumpsuit. Then start ignoring him again
Enough.
paleotn
(17,956 posts)Other than his death or arrest setting off mass celebrations, he's irrelevant at this point. If his followers get hinky and break the law, that's criminal. Arrest their asses. Other than that, I don't give a shit what he, his concubine our his rancid spawn are up to. It's all lies and bullshit meant to distract from what's really important.
birdographer
(1,338 posts)I could not believe that the Huffington Post front page looked like it did a year ago--trump, trump, trump, trump, trump. I'm sick of hearing about him. I don't want to see his bloated face or read his stupid name. It's so discouraging that he's gone from the WH but nothing has changed.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)Without Twitter and without the power of the Presidency, he really is ineffective and feckless. The only news he should make now is a casual mention of him being in this court or one of his golf courses being sold off.
Zero need for CNN and other non right wing organizations to give him much attention.
Bev54
(10,072 posts)"I could shoot someone to on 5th Avenue and get away with it"
gab13by13
(21,402 posts)The MSM is already pushing right wing talking points. Lyndsey Graham is suggesting that Kamala Harris should be impeached. Democrats have always been behind the 8 ball because of right wing media, including cable news.
I do agree that the best tonic is president Joe Biden. He has been impressive and he needs to keep it up. He is the Achilles heel for Donald Trump and the MSM will be forced to cover all of his achievements. Fuck Trump and Fuck the GQP, traitors all.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,592 posts)As long as he's alive he's going to suck all the air out of the room. Maybe he'll choke on a Big Mac.
bluboid
(560 posts)thanks, Atticus.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)We would have vastly preferred hearing all this all along, had the opportunity been available.
Has anyone ever seen a "reality show" called Dr. Pimplepopper? If you have never heard of it, I'm quite serious and it really exists. Suffice to say that people really do have some unbelievable things happen to their 'envelope' that need rather remarkable treatment. By no means are pimples the whole story. Believe me.
I was channel-surfing and happened to view a scene that I will spare you from hearing about. I had a brief moment of panic, thinking I might spew through my interlaced fingers holding my mouth. Fortunately, quicker thinking prevailed and I hit the "Channel Up" button again.
So, yeah. It's like that. That NASTY orifice in his face which I am lead to believe is a mutated variant of what most humans have in their own faces can have that selfsame effect.
Whether uttering a simulation of human speech, or just looking like the spasming anus of a swamp creature in its death throes, it is horrible enough. Couple that visage with some demented andor hateful audible garbage and you've nailed it.
Initech
(100,102 posts)Like I was talking to my neighbors last week and one of the guys starts shit-talking San Francisco after saying that the mayor of LA was funded by George Soros, and another guy said he was boycotting the Super Bowl because they support Black Lives Matter, and later attacked his own wife for watching CNN. Then the conversation later took a turn and devolved into conspiracy theories about sex education and gender identity. Oh and people were laughing at this and thinking it's funny. It's not funny at all, it's stupid bullshit and the Alex Jones-ification of the GOP.
Yeah no, fuck your worldview, Trumpers. Seriously. This is getting to be way too toxic.
Cha
(297,655 posts)normalize that Psychotic Fucker, eh.
Shame the US m$m on the whole is so cravenly derelict.
he GD incited Treason & murder.. Fuck anyone who tries to push that as normal