Is the Morales airspace denial thing still a HOAX?

[cthulu2016]

I kind of lost track. Two days ago it was a hoax... there had been no hint of any nation restricting Morales' movements. It was a crazy conspiracy theory that Morales (who is, in fact, not 100% reliable, BTW) invented to get attention.

All the best people said so.

Where are we today? (Friday)

Is it still a hoax... something that never happened in any form, or was there an epic goal-post shift at some point?

Just trying to keep up here.

[Democracyinkind]

1. First tactic: denial.

Next tactic:

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoavMtUWDBTM

[The Link]

2. I saw a map of a 30 mile flight path.

Used as proof of something.

[sibelian]

4. It was a very mappy map.

It was certainly very cartographic.

[pinboy3niner]

16. It was the Mother of All Maps

[sibelian]

20. ...

[Warren Stupidity]

3. No we are now into ridiculing the way Morales looks.

[cali]

8. and calling South America nasty names too

[byeya]

5. In Re: Hoax: You'll have to wait until the script is written and approved.

Then the usual chorale here will issue forth in song.

[Arctic Dave]

6. Nancy the government intern did it.

She was jealous of Evo.

So it's been said.

[HooptieWagon]

7. The US has been silent except to state it had contacted the countries who denied flyover/refueling.

Hung out to dry, those countries are now fingering the US and CIA.
So, it never was a hoax. The only people claiming so is the Personality Cult. They were thoroughly debunked. Facts determined from media reports are that US officials asked several european countries to deny overflight/refueling after plane took off, assuring them Snowden was aboard. Unable to continue flight, or to refuel to continue flight, plane was forced to circle until fuel became dangerously low. Upon landing, plane was detained on ground for 13 hours, until it was determined Snowden was not aboard. Countries then claim a mis-understanding, and overflight/ refueling permission reinstated.

Perhaps you were confused by a OP that depicted a Moscow road map as "proof" the incident was a hoax. Despite being flagrantly bogus and irrelevant, the Personality Cult embraced it.

[Cali_Democrat]

9. Apparently now the newest report is that the CIA....

Ordered France, Italy, Spain and Portugal to close their airspace to Morales' plane.

Yes that's right....the CIA is actually the one that controls air traffic over Western Europe.

[cthulu2016]

10. .

[DirkGently]

11. Some are still in Obfuscation mode (what does "forced" mean?). Some are

already justifying it as a reasonable action, which of course is where the defense is ultimately heading.

[cthulu2016]

12. A reasonable action that *never happened* of course

The phrase "moral insanity" comes to mind reading some of the Orwellian slop a dedicated cadre of intellectual degenerates are spreading.

A person who lies knowing that the listener knows it to be a lie is a really sickening sort of thing.

[DirkGently]

14. It's not designed to convince, obviously, leaving ...

....? As a motive? Proof of a passionate dedication to muddying the waters and shouting down inconvenient truths?

It's almost like the point is, not "we disagree," but rather, "you're not allowed to acknowledge that fact."

Weird.

[Egalitarian Thug]

15. "a dedicated cadre of intellectual degenerates". That phrase is worth, at least, two recs.

Alas, I have only one.

[SidDithers]

13. Obama kidnapped Harriet Tubman...nt

Sid

[Douglas Carpenter]

17. Snowden case: France apologises to Bolivia over plane row

Source: BBC

France has apologised to Bolivia for refusing to allow President Evo Morales' jet into its airspace, blaming "conflicting information".

Bolivia accused France, Italy, Spain and Portugal of blocking the plane.

It said some wrongly believed US fugitive Edward Snowden was on board.

Speaking in Berlin, French President Francois Hollande said he granted permission as soon as he knew it was Mr Morales' plane.

President Morales was flying back to Bolivia from Moscow when the plane was forced to stop in Vienna.

Angry reactions

The French foreign ministry issued a statement on the incident.

Ministry spokesman Philippe Lalliot said: "The foreign minister called his Bolivian counterpart to tell him about France's regrets after the incident caused by the late confirmation of permission for President Morales' plane to fly over territory."


Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23174874

[cthulu2016]

19. meh. France is lying.

France apologized for something that we all know NEVER HAPPENED.

Thus France is lying, and never loved Obama to begin with.

[Scurrilous]

18. Something happened in Egypt.

Now nobody cares.