*if* zimmerman is acquitted, question: will he kill again?

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plenty of other threads to talk about the likelihood of acquittal, or his actual guilt or innocence.

i'd like this one to take an acquittal, justified or not, as assumed.


will zimmerman continue his armed patrols?
will he eventually get involved in another confrontation?
will he eventually get scared and use deadly force?

or will he say, i got lucky, no way am i ever doing anything like that again, screw this neighborhood watch thing. i'll still carry, but i'll avoid unnecessary confrontations?

[loli phabay]

1. you may as well ask if he will go on to cure a disease or be president

There is no way of knowing what he will do in the future and i hope its not part of any jury decision.

[avebury]

2. I think that if he finds himself in a similar situation again,

the odds are he will not be so lucky the next time. He is already proven to be dangerous and a threat to others. Anybody running up against him will be more apt to shoot first and ask questions later.

[RGR375]

15. That depends

If he is jumped again and is getting pounded into the ground. If so i would expect him to shoot that person also, i would.

[JimDandy]

23. "Why are you following me?" "Get off! Get off me!"

The person saying that was the person getting jumped. That would be Trayvon.

The person doing the MMA style pounding, well that would be Zimmerman, who trained 3 times a week for a year and a half before the murder at a gym billed as the the best MMA fight gym in the world.

Zimmerman and his defense team lied by omission to the public, the entire year before the trial, by not disclosing that very pertinent fact. Instead, they smeared Trayvon as the one who knew MMA. Zimmerman's wife, his father the judge (who wrote a book about the case) and other members of his family (who set up a website and gave interviews) undoubtedly also knew about George's MMA training and never mentioned it once. Instead, they and their minions filled the internet, media and comment boards with smears about Trayvon being the one who was MMA trained.

Trayvon wasn't trained in MMA, but George Zimmerman was.

Publicly smearing Trayvon while simultaneously omitting pertinent info about Zimmerman not only had the effect of intentionally tainting the jury pool, but also created the potential opportunity to influence the testimony of witnesses like Jonathan Good, who had a good chance of hearing those smears.

Ugh..the whole Zimmerman lot are rather sickening.

[MrSlayer]

3. Anyone with sense would take the victory and walk.

But he has shown that he doesn't have a whole lot of sense. It may make him think he's invincible.

My prediction is that he won't kill anyone else.

[CrispyQ]

4. He's a bully with a gun.

If he's acquitted he will feel vindicated. He may not kill again, but his behavior will not improve. I also worry how much an acquittal will embolden the rest of the racists & their stand your ground bullshit.

[Ruby the Liberal]

5. He doesn't believe he did anything wrong

Remember the Hannity interview? He wouldn't change a thing if it happened again, and it was "God's will". This psychopath honestly thinks that he was in the right.

[HappyMe]

8. Yes.

This fact coupled with his 'cop wannabe' attitude leads me to believe he may just do this again. Or maybe he won't be so lucky next time. Next time he may encounter another person 'standing his ground, defending him/self' and zimmy may take a couple of bullets.

[lolly]

26. He still thinks he's a hero

Despite all evidence to the contrary, he (and his defenders) are convinced that Martin must have been doing something wrong, and that he therefore deserved to be shot.

A not guilty verdict will reinforce this belief. No one can predict the future, of course, but I would suggest there will be no reason for him not to kill again. It may take a while. He'll make the round of the conservative talk shows until his star fades, he'll disappear into the woodwork for a while, then he'll long for the days when he was hailed as a brave commander in the war on crime, and he'll head out looking for bad guys again.

[Rex]

6. Yes or end up hurting someone.

He is and will always be a menace to society.

[Motown_Johnny]

7. More likely to end up on FAUX NOISE as a commentator

[Gin]

9. IMO....life gives us previews of coming attractions....he has not learned actions have consequences.

He shows no remorse.....George may go free...but....we will hear from him again.

[RGR375]

17. I would have no remorse either

If you jump me and try to beat the hell out of me for whatever reason you think is just I will shoot you to. I do not put my hands on anybody and you should not either. Why? you may well end up dead. Is it so hard to understand? if you do not put your hands on anybody then your risk of getting shot goes way down.

[Voice for Peace]

24. and if you don't shoot an unarmed teenager you've mistaken for a fucking punk,

your risk of 25 to life goes way down.

[loyalsister]

10. To me a better question is "will others follow his lead?"

If he is acquitted and it is interpreted as a victory for an anti- hero settling scores and making things right to people who feel victimized by "those people."

[HipChick]

11. This reminds me of Joran van der Sloot..

He got off and killed again..

[Dreamer Tatum]

12. probably every day

I'd bank on it.

[Nevernose]

13. He already has a documented history of violence

I don't know whether or not he will kill anyone, but if the past is prologue, then he will commit some act of physical violence on someone again. He's beaten up a girlfriend, beaten up a woman at a bar, assaulted an undercover police officer, been accused of threatening violence against a former coworker, been accused by family members of being both a racist and a child molester. Not to mention the kid he shot, right OR wrong.

None of that will be introduced into this case -- and is probably not even relevant -- but this guy is not the poster child for "responsible gun owner."

I imagine that, if acquitted or a hung jury, he'll Joe the Plumber for a year or two, them we'll see him pop up on page three for domestic violence or a barroom brawl in five years, and everyone will say, "I knew it all along!"

[hlthe2b]

14. Maybe, but I'm more worried about all those he has "inspired" ....

and I have little doubt the pro-gunner/racist followers in his fan club, would do just that.

[onenote]

16. Did OJ kill again?

It strikes me as a silly question. Who the hell knows what he will do.

[LWolf]

18. What's more likely

is that an acquittal will empower other carriers to kill.

[murray hill farm]

19. If he is set free,

he will have to go into hiding and he will live in fear for the rest of his life that someone will find him and shoot him in self defense! We know he carries a gun and will be always on the lookout that some "suspect" is after him and he will know that his time the "suspect" has a gun to defend himself....maybe even a bigger gun that he has...and dare he defend himself by trying to fight off the person who is "after" him...nope! He will never be free again.

[Zoeisright]

20. Of course.

Cowardly racist asshole bullies with guns will always shoot. And he will kill again.

[alcibiades_mystery]

21. Probably not

He deserves to be punished for the murder he did commit, though.

Our prisons are filled with people serving life sentences for killing a person, and many of those would never kill again, and pose no general threat.

[Benton D Struckcheon]

22. Nah, domestic violence. n/t

[Mariana]

25. It depends, I guess, on whether he enjoyed killing Trayvon.

Serial killers do what they do because killing people makes them feel good. If killing Trayvon made Zimmerman feel good, he may very well try to kill again.

I don't know if he would try to engineer another "self defense" scenario, because he knows it would be investigated very thoroughly. If he does, his story will be more credible than this one was, because he will have learned from his mistakes.

[Just Saying]

27. Pure speculation but...

"will zimmerman continue his armed patrols? "

No, who would ever let him after his last HOA was sued and payed out big bucks to the victim's parents?

"will he eventually get involved in another confrontation?"

Probably. This isn't his first confrontation and without punishment I don't see it being his last.

"will he eventually get scared and use deadly force?"

Why not? As far as I can tell, if he's acquitted he'll still have his concealed carry and his poor judgement.

"or will he say, i got lucky, no way am i ever doing anything like that again, screw this neighborhood watch thing. i'll still carry, but i'll avoid unnecessary confrontations?"

No, I don't think so. I feel he'll think he was justified. In fact, he's already said this was God's will. He's not sorry in any way he followed and killed a kid just trying to walk home from the store. Why would he change?

[NoOneMan]

28. No, but his fan base probably will

Zimmerman will cash in probably. He will feel like a hero. But he will never want to be scared as shitless as he is now. No one wants to face jail time over their epic stupidity.

My bet are his vigilante days are over but he will illustrate that you can kill and get away with it to others

[davidpdx]

29. If he is acquitted, no he won't kill anyone else

His life will be under a microscope because of what he did to Martin regardless of the verdict. He's going to have to be very careful. He may still be open to a civil suit by the Martins much like Simpson was for the death of his ex-wife. Just because he is acquitted doesn't mean he can't be held liable in some form. I hope regardless of the outcome the Martins will sue him.

[GreenStormCloud]

39. If he is aquitted, he will have civil immunity.

Florida, and many other states, do not allow civil suits if you are found to have shot someone in self-defense.

[davidpdx]

41. If he is acquitted does that mean he automatically has civil immunity?

I don't know. Now if he had use the SYG defense and won, then yeah I could see that. I'm not so sure an acquittal would automatically protect him from a civil suit.

[GreenStormCloud]

46. Maybe not. The use of force has to be justified.

An aquittal is not the same thing as a finding of justified.

[davidpdx]

48. Yes, but remember the standard of evidence is less in a civil trial

In a criminal trial it is beyond a reasonable doubt whereas a civil trial it is the preponderance of the evidence.

[GreenStormCloud]

49. That wasn't quite what I was talking about.

By "justified" I meant that if the state has ruled the shooting to have been justified. If that has been done, then he gets civil immunity and can't be sued. An aquital at the trial does not seem to be a ruling of "justified" therefore it appears that he may be able to be sued.

[BainsBane]

30. Probably, and worse yet

He'll encourage other concealed weapon carriers to kill as well because they know they can get away with it. Why do you think they are watching this case so closely?

[HooptieWagon]

31. No HOA will allow him to patrol, no PD will hire him.

I don't think it can be said with certainty he would kill again. However...he is an authoritarian personality that wants to throw his weight around (as long as hes armed). He appears to be somewhat paranoid. He's prone to panic. Taking all that into account, there is a higher probabilty of him using his gun again than there is with the average person or even the average gun owner. How much higher I don't know...might be a little, might be a lot. Just my opinion. I'm not a psychologist, I just play one on the internet.

[rrneck]

32. Nope. He's too chickenshit. nt

[ZombieHorde]

33. I have no idea, but I expect he wouldn't try these things again

due to his experiences. Even if he gets off clean, the process has probably been very stressful.

[gopiscrap]

34. probably because in his psycopath mind

he will be given the green light to carry on his profiling vigilantism.

[madokie]

35. Stupid is as stupid does

Is how I'll answer your question

[Skittles]

36. he is a racist and a coward

I would not want him as my neighbor

[customerserviceguy]

37. He'll have to spend the rest of his life in hiding

And I do expect him to be armed within whatever home he is hiding in. I do expect him to defend himself against whatever revenge seeker tries to get to him.

[Ilsa]

38. The question should be, "Will other

Racists, bigots, hatemongerers copy what he did and get away with it?"

[riverwalker]

40. won't be aquitted

those six women will see a lying beady eyed chicken shit who can't even go grocery shopping at Target without a loaded gun in his pants.
Something these women have done every day of their lives, unarmed.

[Bettie]

42. I think he will

He's managed to slide on every bit of trouble he's ever made for himself.

If he gets away with this, he sees that even murder is OK for him, since he's a special little snowflake.

I have no doubt that he'll become 'scared' again and kill someone else, most likely after escalating the situation himself, since he's the 'big, tough guy with a gun'.

[NM_Birder]

43. I read another Du poster describe

a "10-20-life" rule, regarding other possible charges that Zimmerman can be convicted of ? it was a few days ago, so I can't remember the exact wording, but the general gist was that because of the Florida gun crime sentencing laws, Zimmerman can still likely look at 20 years ...if convicted of manslaughter, felony assault and battery.

I think the state screwed themselves with murder 2, but if they can pull out a conviction, Zimmerman may still be looking at prison time. That would be a thousand times better than aquittal,.... life no parole is best but I think that ship sailed.

[greytdemocrat]

44. Ridiculous speculation. nt

A thread like this serves no logical purpose.

[Hugabear]

45. Of course. There are so many more "fucking punks" to go after

He's a self-styled Punisher.

[99Forever]

47. The more important question is...

... how many other innocent people will be murdered while going about their daily lives by self-appointed, gun-toting, cowardly, wannabe "security" scumballs?

Will the gunfreakos celibate when no one can walk outside without wondering when of their "responsible, law-abiding" ilk is going to mow them down for no good reason?