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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:32 PM Jul 2013

Why Libertarian Organizations Like The Cato Institute Love The NSA Outrage

http://shoqvalue.com/why-libertarian-organizations-like-the-cato-institute-love-the-nsa-outrage/

Glenn Greenwald's daily fixation about the perils and abuses of executive power have always been widely supported and promoted by the Cato Institute, the libertarian "think tank" founded by the now infamous right-wing industrialists known now as simply "The Koch Brothers." Glenn's latest number one fan on Twitter is Cato's (and Reason Magazine's) Julian Sanchez (@normative). The two of them have recently been the Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb of the NSA/Snowden outrage machine, gleefully trading-off with and echoing each other's efforts to keep the topics of the NSA, Ed Snowden and Bradley Manning in the forefront of the media's attention span. And the Kochs just couldn't be happier.

This paragraph will help you understand why:

From: The Machine: A Field Guide to the Resurgent Right by Lee Fang

Perhaps the most insidious strategy of the Koch brothers has been their ability to co-opt social liberals. The Cato Institute is known for its promotion of gay marriage and support for immigrant rights. In fact, a small number of libertarian fronts that receive funding from Koch charitable foundations do not toe the orthodox conservative line when it comes to issues like evolution or even drug policy. But these otherwise laudable causes are mostly a ruse. While the Koch brothers fund seemingly reasonable social libertarians with one hand, they finance a set of vicious social conservatives with the other. Peggy Venable, a longtime Koch operative, helped mastermind the crusade to rewrite the history textbooks in Texas to promote antigay bigots and to censor references to immigrant civil rights leaders like Cesar Chavez.6 Americans for Prosperity spent considerable resources promoting Arizona State Sen. Russell Pearce and Colorado’s Tom Tancredo, two of the leading anti-immigrant politicians in America. Koch also gives heavily to antigay groups like the Heritage Foundation. In fact, Charles attends meetings of the Council for National Policy, the nation’s largest meeting group for far right social conservative donors, and in a speech posted on the group’s website, pledged an “alliance” with the social right to change American society. Essentially, Koch will fund both conservatives and liberals when it comes to social policy. Because for them, social initiatives are more often a Trojan horse for imposing their radical economic views.

[bold emphasis added]

Like most of the Right's calculated maneuverings, organizations like Cato are fond of any effort that attacks any institution of power which far right authoritarians like the Koch's don't now control. For decades, they have paid for an orchestrated effort to destroy the American people's respect for goverment, and thus, any authority that can pass social legislation aimed at greater wealth equality and social justice, which are both outcomes vehemently opposed by the Kochs and their plutocratic brethren. It is not an accident that Progressive civil libertarians and socially-regressive Ron and Rand Paul supporters have come together to noisily protest the evils of the "surveillance state," as Greenwald so lovingly refers to it. It's a strategy long in coming.

I urge you to read Lee Fang's book and understand just how systemic the plutocratic influence has become in America, and why it is leading to what George Packer calls "The Great Unwinding" of the American way of life. It is not that the strident voices like Glenn Greenwald's are not discussing matters important to liberals. They are. After all, Progressives—or at least, those claiming to be progressives—are his market and drive his income. But it is the way they are discussed that is working at cross-purposes with the larger goals of the American left. They rely on a ginned-up outrage directed mostly at mere tokens of authority, such as black Presidents like Barack Obama, and not at the true causes of our problems: the plutocratic elites like the Koch's who are only too happy to promote and pay for this distracting, hyperbolic antipathy toward elected representation and executive power.

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Why Libertarian Organizations Like The Cato Institute Love The NSA Outrage (Original Post) flamingdem Jul 2013 OP
Kindle link lets you read first chapter of The Machine: A Field Guide to the Resurgent Right flamingdem Jul 2013 #1
K & R, wonderful post, they are being played like a fine fiddle. Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #2
So, "Surveillance State" = Greenwald talking point CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #3
Truly, who'da thunk. Greenwald = Progressive civil libertarian or Left Libertarian flamingdem Jul 2013 #5
You do understand there are differences... Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #12
What made you feel the need for a mini lecture? flamingdem Jul 2013 #15
You seemed to be conflating different strands of political thought. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #16
Where did I conflate different strands of thought? flamingdem Jul 2013 #18
Every time we talk about the NSA, God kills a Libertarian kitten! leftstreet Jul 2013 #4
Are you a Libertarian? flamingdem Jul 2013 #6
No, I'm a Communist n/t leftstreet Jul 2013 #11
... Rex Jul 2013 #21
I don't care what the Cato Institute says. I do care about the national surveillance state. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #7
So now you're giving the Koch Bros a pass flamingdem Jul 2013 #8
Now you're making shit up. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author leftstreet Jul 2013 #9
"They rely on a ginned-up outrage" great white snark Jul 2013 #10
You're welcome. I thought it was a direct hit flamingdem Jul 2013 #13
The polarization of this country is killing it. mick063 Jul 2013 #17
The right rarely acknowledges common ground, even when it was their policy flamingdem Jul 2013 #19
You are speaking of Carl Rove, the Koch brothers, and FOX News. mick063 Jul 2013 #22
Yep. They bamboozled Valerie Plame, Daniel Ellsberg, the ACLU and Amnesty International. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #20

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. K & R, wonderful post, they are being played like a fine fiddle.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:38 PM
Jul 2013

If they would listen to truth and know when they are lied to it would be an easy decision of what logical reasoning is.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
5. Truly, who'da thunk. Greenwald = Progressive civil libertarian or Left Libertarian
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:41 PM
Jul 2013

Though he scoffs at the label Libertarian this is clearly who he is.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
12. You do understand there are differences...
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:47 PM
Jul 2013

...between a civil libertarian, a left libertarian, and the capital L Libertarian Party?

Civil libertarian: The ACLU, for example.

Left libertarian: Probably includes many Democrats. End the drug war, stay out of our bedrooms, stop the foreign wars, and create social justice by defanging corporate power.

Libertarian Party: All power to the private sector! Plus end the drug war, stay our our bedrooms, stop the foreign wars.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
16. You seemed to be conflating different strands of political thought.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:53 PM
Jul 2013

You certainly wouldn't do anything like that on purpose, so I assumed some clarification might help ease your confusion. No need to thank me; it's a public service.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
7. I don't care what the Cato Institute says. I do care about the national surveillance state.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:42 PM
Jul 2013

Why don't you try defending the national surveillance state instead of basically calling its critics lackeys of the Koch Brothers?

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
14. Now you're making shit up.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:49 PM
Jul 2013

Again. Not a surprise. And not lovely.

I loathe the Koch Brothers. I also loathe the overweening natiional surveillance state and all the creepy Big Brotherism.

Response to flamingdem (Original post)

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
17. The polarization of this country is killing it.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:54 PM
Jul 2013

There are a small number of issues that we all can align on.

Is the contempt so great, that it is always "They are for it so I am against it" every single time? On every single issue?

The only way this country can repair itself is if people can find common ground on a few issues.

I'm pro choice, anti war, anti privatization, fair taxation, etc. , etc.

I also happen to be anti "blanket surveillance." Personally, I'm thrilled that the Republicans have this one right. It means we may be able to do something about it.

Indeed, the 26 Senators that have banded together on this issue appear to be bipartisan.

This runs counter to divisive Rove tactics. Common ground opens dialog. Dialog opens minds. It is the plutocrat's greatest fear.

If you truly wish to change a few minds, acknowledge the opposition when they are on the right side of an issue.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
19. The right rarely acknowledges common ground, even when it was their policy
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jul 2013

to begin with! Obamacare / Romney care for example

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
22. You are speaking of Carl Rove, the Koch brothers, and FOX News.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 04:44 PM
Jul 2013

Their purpose in life is power.

I am speaking of American citizens that are bitterly disappointed with our surveillance state. I am in solidarity with them, on that particular issue, regardless of party affiliation.



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