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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 06:24 PM Jul 2013

Fox News host: Not using God to sell beer means ‘the terrorists have won’

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Fox News host: Not using God to sell beer means ‘the terrorists have won’
By David Edwards
Friday, July 5, 2013 11:38 EDT


A Fox News guest host asserted on Friday that “the terrorists have won” because brewer Samuel Adams was not in invoking God in its television commercials to sell beer.

In the “Independence” television spot that began airing last month, an actor in a Samuel Adams Boston Lager commercial quotes from the Declaration of Independence.

“Why name a beer after Samuel Adams? Because Samuel Adams signed the Declaration of Independence,” the actor says. “He believed there was a better way to live: all men are created equal. They are endowed with certain unalienable rights: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Smooth, flavorful, we bow to no kings. Samuel Adams Boston lager: declare your independence.”

On Friday, the three Fox & Friends guest hosts expressed outrage that the brewer had not included the phrase “endowed by their Creator” in the commercial.

“When political correctness takes over the beer advertising industry, the terrorists have won,” said Watters, who is better known for his job as a producer on Bill O’Reilly’s Fox News show. “I mean, this is absolutely outrageous!”

“You know, maybe it’s because Sam Adams was the tea party guy — he started the Boston Tea Party — maybe the tea party’s being targeted here,” he added.

For its part, Sam Adams has reportedly explained that the Beer Institute Advertising Code advises against using “religion or religious themes” for marketing purposes.

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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/05/fox-news-host-not-using-god-to-sell-beer-means-the-terrorists-have-won/
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Fox News host: Not using God to sell beer means ‘the terrorists have won’ (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2013 OP
That sounds so.....REPUBLICAN! PennsylvaniaMatt Jul 2013 #1
You're close -- it's a holy trinity: Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #4
Haha! You nailed it! PennsylvaniaMatt Jul 2013 #16
sympathies. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2013 #54
Fortunately, Fox News watchers are far too intelligent to buy into this. Buzz Clik Jul 2013 #2
I love it! because I know the Truth... Heather MC Jul 2013 #72
When future historians look back at this time period they will say Rex Jul 2013 #3
These people would have to go to college for 10 years, have their IQ upgraded 40 points... BlueJazz Jul 2013 #5
Maybe the people at Sam Adams revere their Creator too much to "use him" to hawk product. . . Journeyman Jul 2013 #6
Besides customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #43
So begins "The War Against Beer" chelsea0011 Jul 2013 #7
It's been brewing for some time pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #9
I'm sorry, what? I was barley paying attention Scootaloo Jul 2013 #13
Wheat are you, some kinda hefeweisenheimer? pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #14
Fermenting discord, I'd say... nt Buns_of_Fire Jul 2013 #36
Put a cap on it Android3.14 Jul 2013 #37
That's really beyond the pale pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #45
What the Ale are you all on about? riqster Jul 2013 #58
Feeling Superior, are you? pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #65
You made your pint. riqster Jul 2013 #66
Well, my puns HAVE been known to reduce groan men to tears--and I ain't Lion pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #67
You're Killian me! riqster Jul 2013 #71
Come back lager treestar Jul 2013 #53
Lol you all cracked me up this morning TxDemChem Jul 2013 #70
Duzy!!!!!!!!!!!! dixiegrrrrl Jul 2013 #17
Ouch mindwalker_i Jul 2013 #28
I hear there's a cure for that pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #73
This sub-thread is a DUzy. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #76
seconded! opiate69 Jul 2013 #79
Begun the beer wars have. Initech Jul 2013 #22
It's just what we need mindwalker_i Jul 2013 #29
to hell with the terrorists pushing their secularist agenda! Enrique Jul 2013 #8
Beating them is my most ferment hope! pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #11
Well, let's hop to it. Eleanors38 Jul 2013 #34
Resistance is yeast-less. Android3.14 Jul 2013 #39
I keep looking through the bible for the part where god tells them bowens43 Jul 2013 #10
Keep and beer arms..... louis-t Jul 2013 #48
once again...... dhill926 Jul 2013 #12
Once again, F&F is hosting under the influence pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #15
Well I'm not ... sorta. :) babylonsister Jul 2013 #20
I don't think Mormons like God selling beer. n/t Sheepshank Jul 2013 #18
They don't like anybody selling beer! customerserviceguy Jul 2013 #44
What a strange bubble they live in. mick063 Jul 2013 #19
There aren't enough facepalms for that kind of stupid. Initech Jul 2013 #21
Typical Faux News nonsense miked62916 Jul 2013 #23
U Are Right uppityperson Jul 2013 #30
But its on Faux News, AlRod Jul 2013 #40
Ow! krispos42 Jul 2013 #24
Yes, it does. Daemonaquila Jul 2013 #25
I know, right? krispos42 Jul 2013 #27
The problem with stupid is that it hurts smart people the most. nt nyquil_man Jul 2013 #26
You know, I wonder if God drinks mindwalker_i Jul 2013 #31
The platypus,...for one. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #68
Osama bin Lager has tapped into the nation's fearmongering Blue Owl Jul 2013 #32
Ha! babylonsister Jul 2013 #42
You can just bet TNNurse Jul 2013 #33
Reading this post makes me sad tiredtoo Jul 2013 #35
re:Fox News host: Not using God to sell beer means ‘the terrorists have won’ allan01 Jul 2013 #38
That would be interesting if Faux could get their followers to boycott zbdent Jul 2013 #41
What do you expect from a beer created in godless Massachusetts? mainer Jul 2013 #46
There are only two words needed for all Fox hacks malaise Jul 2013 #47
No! The terrorist WON'T WIN!!! Jesus will save us!!!! Kablooie Jul 2013 #49
I knew there timdog44 Jul 2013 #50
Fucking crazy assholes gopiscrap Jul 2013 #51
Why would an alcoholic beverage manufacturer invoke God? mwooldri Jul 2013 #52
Extremely bad example jmowreader Jul 2013 #59
My response posted at a Facebook site. LiberalFighter Jul 2013 #55
Oh God. It's enough to make me want to have a beer. Fuddnik Jul 2013 #56
That may be the absolute dumbest thing anyone's ever said. Bluzmann57 Jul 2013 #57
I was under the impression that God doesn't approve of beer, or other alcoholic Cleita Jul 2013 #60
BUT forgetting to complain the country's 'sacred document' was used to push profits on the 4th tomm2thumbs Jul 2013 #61
What "endowed by their Creator" really means Major Nikon Jul 2013 #62
Specifically George III, Alkene Jul 2013 #74
Normal people don't watch Pox (NT) The Wizard Jul 2013 #63
Sam Adams was a tax collector. GreatCaesarsGhost Jul 2013 #64
. Jamaal510 Jul 2013 #69
This is why i only drink Samuel L. Jackson Beer...... (nsfw) 8 track mind Jul 2013 #75
The one dude in that commercial. 47of74 Jul 2013 #80
Because nothing says "Islamic terrorists".., awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #77
Yep. 47of74 Jul 2013 #81
Oh, for... 3catwoman3 Jul 2013 #78
Questions for the guest ButchT Jul 2013 #82
Who else thought of this? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #83
This made my day DainBramaged Jul 2013 #84
What a bunch of fucking idiots gopiscrap Jul 2013 #85
Hey Fox Noise: Didja know that pot growers are now doing GOD's work? chknltl Jul 2013 #86

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
54. sympathies.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:44 PM
Jul 2013

I hate that mindset! So sick of this shit. And the fact that they get attention, get their jackass no-brain pukes on tv, in political office making laws that ruin our lives, own corporations.....I could go on....


 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
2. Fortunately, Fox News watchers are far too intelligent to buy into this.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 06:27 PM
Jul 2013



I wonder how American atheists enjoy being branded as terrorists in this way?
 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
72. I love it! because I know the Truth...
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 09:26 AM
Jul 2013

The irony is most terrorist are very religious. Even the Domestic ones. I bet they will boycott Sam Adams Beer too LOL

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
5. These people would have to go to college for 10 years, have their IQ upgraded 40 points...
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 06:29 PM
Jul 2013

...to be known as "Average"

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
6. Maybe the people at Sam Adams revere their Creator too much to "use him" to hawk product. . .
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 06:31 PM
Jul 2013

Not everything need be seen through a bubble of partisan politics.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
45. That's really beyond the pale
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:55 AM
Jul 2013

I hope you'll soon recover from your bitter mood and be bock to your old self soon. Have you tried some amber dextrinous (two-fisted) attitude adjustment?

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
65. Feeling Superior, are you?
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 11:25 PM
Jul 2013

I suspect you're just trying to Eggenberg me on, but I'm Pabst all that. I Amstel in a good mood and I refuse to let anything Rainier on my parade.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
66. You made your pint.
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 12:32 AM
Jul 2013

One must be on one cider the other, I guess. I'll draft a response later, right now it seems I am over a barrel, trying to stave off the puns.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
67. Well, my puns HAVE been known to reduce groan men to tears--and I ain't Lion
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 01:35 AM
Jul 2013

Someone tried to sneak up on one of my puns once, but it Doppelbocked on him.

Asahi was saying...oh, wait...I think I hear someone Carling my name. Be Bass later...

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
10. I keep looking through the bible for the part where god tells them
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 06:43 PM
Jul 2013

they have the right to keep and bear Arms........

hmmmm don't see it anywhere........

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
44. They don't like anybody selling beer!
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:54 AM
Jul 2013

I lived in a Utah suburb of SLC for six months in 2005 (worst decade of my life) and we had two supermarkets in town. One sold only the weak 3.2 swill, and the other was proud to say it sold none. Further, they were always closed on Sundays, and their movie department had "Clean Cut Videos" with all the objectionable parts censored out of them.

 

mick063

(2,424 posts)
19. What a strange bubble they live in.
Fri Jul 5, 2013, 07:07 PM
Jul 2013

The same bubble that had them shocked and dismayed when they discovered Nate Silver wasn't a biased outlier.

I guess they are no closer to seeing outside of the bubble now, then they were back then.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
21. There aren't enough facepalms for that kind of stupid.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 12:38 AM
Jul 2013

I have a few Sam Adams in my fridge, I'll drink those tonight thanks to this!

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
25. Yes, it does.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:01 AM
Jul 2013

Apparently companies with no interest in sending a religious message on a secular holiday are oppressing the poor christians by failing to do so. The mind boggles.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
31. You know, I wonder if God drinks
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 01:16 AM
Jul 2013

It's hard to imagine that he wouldn't be drinking at this point, and it would explain a lot of things.

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
33. You can just bet
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 08:20 AM
Jul 2013

that there would have been just as many who would have screamed that they were using God to sell beer. The mindset of those who think that we should live by Biblical law is very narrow. I wish it was treason to try to thwart the Constitution, but it isn't it is just Unconstitutional. Those second amendment freaks need to learn that separation of church and state IS constitutional. Those who want to live by God's laws are going to be missing some stuff they enjoy.......OK, I wandered, but you get my point I hope.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
38. re:Fox News host: Not using God to sell beer means ‘the terrorists have won’
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:30 AM
Jul 2013

Last edited Sat Jul 6, 2013, 10:28 AM - Edit history (3)

and the felgercarbe ( legacy battle star galactica refrence )continues . Next .!!!!!! No. wait . really. who writes this stuff and what are they on ?

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
51. Fucking crazy assholes
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jul 2013

this is part of the reason why so many of the European countries think that this nation has become a joke.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
52. Why would an alcoholic beverage manufacturer invoke God?
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:33 PM
Jul 2013

I guess the hosts of the aforementioned television viewing opportunity aren't aware that a number of religions exclude the consumption of alcoholic beverages. That includes Sam Adams' products.

If any alcoholic beverage manufacturing company decided to try and publish an advertisement in Saudi Arabia and invoke Allah, I think the clerics would be out there claiming heresy and issuing fatwas and death penalty statuses to the people of the alcoholic beverage manufacturing company.

LiberalFighter

(50,931 posts)
55. My response posted at a Facebook site.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:53 PM
Jul 2013

Fox News continues to stir up controversy with their insanity. They get upset anytime they feel (their) religion has been slighted. In this case due to not including "endowed by their Creator" as in the Declaration of Independence for the Samuel Adams beer commercial.

The fact of the matter is that the Beer Institute Advertising Code advises against using “religion or religious themes” for marketing purposes. Their research probably has found that it does more harm than good with too many groups being offended.

Anytime Fox News is offended about a slight they blame it on the terrorists. And they use logic that is beyond reason. A three year old would have better reasoning than those on Fox News.

= =
Fox News Logic excerpt
"If the beer code ethics code guideline, whatever bogus organization that is has more authority than our Declaration of Independence," he argued, "why don’t you just pull out the Declaration of Independence and say, 'I’ve got this document here, does this trump yours?’"
= =

Really? The Declaration of Independence does not do what they think it does. It was a document that only stated our grievances against Great Britain and the justification for independence. Those grievances did not even include anything about religion. The Declaration of Independence had only one purpose and did not have authority beyond that scope. The Constitution does have authority and provides the structure for our government.

If you watch Fox News you are likely to suffer serious brain damage.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
56. Oh God. It's enough to make me want to have a beer.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 02:58 PM
Jul 2013

But all I have in the fridge is Cigar City Jai Alai, and Heineken.

Bluzmann57

(12,336 posts)
57. That may be the absolute dumbest thing anyone's ever said.
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jul 2013

And there are an awful lot of dumb things to choose from. But saying the terrorists have won because a beer company didn't invoke some higher being in a commercial? Because they followed standards? Wow. Just wow.
I kinda like Sam Adams beer. Now I think I may go have one just so I can gripe about them "not using the phrase 'endowed by their creator'." Good grief!

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
60. I was under the impression that God doesn't approve of beer, or other alcoholic
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 05:32 PM
Jul 2013

beverages. This is what my fundie Christian neighbor tells me.

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
61. BUT forgetting to complain the country's 'sacred document' was used to push profits on the 4th
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 06:14 PM
Jul 2013

Guess they missed that more salient point while on the road to their show meeting

Jesus Christ Beer is probalby in the fridge at FoxNews. "Good enough to baptize a baby in."

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
62. What "endowed by their Creator" really means
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jul 2013

If the Christians that make these ridiculous assertions understood deism, they would be more afraid of it than atheism.

Deists don't believe in a god that intervenes in the lives of humans. Deists believe that god created the universe and left us all up to our own means. They rejected revelation, religious dogma, and even organized religion itself as silly nonsense.

The phrase "endowed by their Creator" really means that everyone is born equal with the same rights, and it's up to all of us to defend and protect those rights rather than relying on god to do it for us. It was a big "fuck you" to the Christian religious establishment which dominated western governments at the time.

Alkene

(752 posts)
74. Specifically George III,
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 01:32 PM
Jul 2013

Supreme Governor of the C. of E. = integration (no separation) of church and state.

ButchT

(11 posts)
82. Questions for the guest
Sun Jul 7, 2013, 11:41 PM
Jul 2013

I'd like to ask the guest a few questions: "Do you think God would approve of his name being used to endorse prostitution? Gambling? Smoking? I mean, we already know you use his name in vain; we'd just like to know to where you draw the line against using it for selling vices."

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
86. Hey Fox Noise: Didja know that pot growers are now doing GOD's work?
Mon Jul 8, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jul 2013

With the striking down of DOMA there will be more and more same sex marriages.
I believe there is a passage in the Bible that says: When man lays with man they both shall be stoned. Go ahead Fox, you wanna argue with GOD now too?

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