Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzales right-wing shills?

[marmar]

Yes, this an assertion somewhere in the bowels of GD today. You can't make this sh*t up.

Sincerely, WTF?

[Skittles]

1. uh oh

did they criticize that special someone?

[marmar]

2. There's one particular thread that's reached new levels of smear-all-critics nuttiness.

[Skittles]

22. sorry, a "new level" is reached daily

[Cleita]

3. Considering all the other BS accusations I've seen here the past week I'm not surprised.

Welcome to 1984 double speak. Up is down, black is white and so on.

[KG]

4. those kinds of posts are just too fucking stupid to even respond to.

[Luminous Animal]

5. Yes. Indeedy. And I vow to only listen to Charlie Rose. He's so incisive and exciting!

[Catherina]

6. Really? Speaks volumes. n/t

[magellan]

7. And Daniel Ellsburg is under the bus too.

[burnodo]

8. or egomaniacal Randian Paulbot Libertarian Greenwaldo-Snowden-fans-supporters-worshippers-lovers

did that cover everything?

[Hydra]

9. You forgot "Racist"- saw that again today

I also got called a "Pug" for the first time ever today for having issues with RW actions of our admin. Can't make this stuff up

[liberal_at_heart]

11. they are desperate to bully people into voting for their candadite. Sad that they don't realize

it doesn't work.

[Hydra]

13. I told them as much

There was a thread one of them made to get the vote out for 2014. It was ridiculously pitched, and actually hurt the cause of voting for Dems.

I said so and why, and they were baffled as to why I wouldn't want to vote for their candidates after they've told me to get out of the tent.

[Maximumnegro]

33. Then don't vote. We'll do the

heavy lifting as usual while purists wait for their ponies.

[JoeyT]

37. Most of the purists are the ones that did the heavy lifting.

See, when you work to get someone elected and they do the exact opposite of what they promised, you get pissed.

When you don't do anything but dick around on the internet and whine at people for criticizing your favorite politician, it really isn't a big deal what the politician does or doesn't do.

[Hydra]

39. As the poster before pointed out

You guys dropped the ball in 2010. we got out and pounded pavement, but somehow it became our fault that the bad policies scared off the new young voters that got Obama elected in 2008.

Thank you for making my point for me in such a great way...way to heavy lift there.

[HiPointDem]

25. seems to me they are the right-wing shills. it would be so easy to garner renewed support for

BHO, & that would be to put him out there governing strongly as an fdr democrat. and just as important, to make the case for such policies with the public to counterbalance the strong propaganda of the right.

the wingers are going to attack anything he does regardless of what it is. have them attack him for something that will garner him support elsewhere, i say.

i feel the US had a chance to turn around the tide of fascism but that moment is fading.

[Maximumnegro]

32. Er, he already won. Soooo

Wha?

[liberal_at_heart]

10. let me guess because they don't walk lockstep with corportist democrats they must be libertarians?

[yurbud]

41. For a while in Obama time, I thought the corporate Dem posts here were right wing trolls until

The exact same talking points came out of the mouths of the Robert Gibbs and even Obama himself.

[Douglas Carpenter]

12. do you think it might be possible that the person who said that was in fact responding to someone

ironically? Sometimes you have to read the other posts that someone writes in the same thread to get the hang of what they are getting at.

[Hydra]

14. We've had to start using sarcasm tags in cases like that

Because the most unthinkable things are appearing here on DU in total seriousness. The number of people under the bus is getting insane, while accusations of racism, supporting Rand Paul and other ugliness is getting almost common.

The people we depended on to get us the truth are now the enemy to the people defending this Admin. The truth itself is the enemy.

Strange times.

[Douglas Carpenter]

17. I do not know how to reason with people who claim with a straight face there is nothing to worry

about with the massive expansion of the Intelligence Industrial Complex - when the evidence is indisputable that the clandestine services are growing in leaps and bounds and are completely out of control. And knowing that this is coming from people who would be just as excited to condemn it if it were from a Republican administration. Now, if they would be just be honest and say that they realize there is a very big problem here - but they are afraid that talking about it might help the Republicans - I could respect that and even agree that there is a danger of that happening. But instead they go off into cloud cuckoo land defending something that will in all probability lead to the end of democracy if not halted and reined in. Then they go off and make such crazy robotic attacks on everyone who shares a concern that all sane and rational people who have seriously looked at the issue also share. I have given up trying to reason with them. I sometimes just try to mirror them - hoping they might grasp just how batshit crazy they really sound. Throwing in a sarcasm tag would kind of throw away the point I was trying to make.

[Hydra]

18. There's really nothing you can do

One of the posters in question went as far as to say on the board that she was here to "make fun" of the people trying to get at the facts until they leave. Others refuse to engage when I post counter arguments and articles. Still others simply ignore the evidence and keep repeating their points.

I haven't used ignore yet to deal with the problem, but at some point we may just have to do that. When they're only talking with themselves, they'll either have to start new accounts to attack with or move on. I'm glad I'm not in Skinner's shoes at the moment- he doesn't consider himself a Lefty, but these people are making the site look horrible. He's got a tough decision to make about how to clean house before this gets any worse.

[Skittles]

23. they're obsessed with Obama and Obama alone

they would not put up with this SHIT from anyone else

[Douglas Carpenter]

24. I'm sure that's it. And frankly I don't want the focus to be on Obama - the explosion of the

Intelligence Industrial Complex is bipartisan craziness.

[Skittles]

40. oh I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with you Douglas

that's why I find those folk with their pinheads STUCK in Obama mode so ridiculous!!!

[NuclearDem]

15. Yeah, if I recall that certain someone

was responding to a slight that Democracy Now! was woo.

Which, I mean, it's still unbelievable bullshit that we're getting to the point of throwing Amy goddamn Goodman under the bus.

[suffragette]

16. Started noticing this happen in mid-June

Stunning and disgusting that it this happening here and still going on.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

19. sure am glad I'm not reading any of the spying NSA Snowden *ad infinitum* threads

I'm sticking to women's lives right now. No bullshit intrigue personal filters "it's the principle of the thing" crap.

Saving women's lives and saving us from being forced, once again, into reproductive slavery, is far more important.

In my opinion.

[BainsBane]

21. Same here

[Maximumnegro]

34. Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BainsBane]

20. Seriously?

That's nuts.

[Ichingcarpenter]

26. NPR is a shrill for Russia

I just read that one reporting on a news story.

[MADem]

29. Wow--by your words I sure have come to know YOU!

I responded to your post, specifically DENYING that assertion that YOU made--yet you come here to be snarky and shitty and tell an essential UNTRUTH.

No guts, no glory.

You showed me what you're all about with your comment here. You aren't being honest. And you know it. And I've pointed it out.

Shame on you! No mas pantalones!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023222678#post12

[Ichingcarpenter]

30. I'll let your own words say it

'And of COURSE--surprise, surprise!!!---the source of this story is Putin's own Russia Today! '

Take a chill pill and get some sleep. Its not worth your outrage.

[MADem]

31. That's why I LINKED TO MY WORDS--because you, AGAIN, took them out of context.

You really do have no embarrassment. Twice you've been caught out misrepresenting me.

The one who needs to take a chill pill isn't me--and why should I sleep at this time of day, pray tell?

Not everyone is in your timezone or on your schedule--and how parochial of you to assume that is the case. You need to worry a bit more about your OWN behavior, here, not try to minimize it by characterizing me as "outraged" when all I'm doing is pointing out, for all to see, what you've done.

Further, telling people to "go away" because they are pointing out your conduct isn't on. What you need to do is stop telling falsehoods about people in separate threads--it makes you look like a rather nasty gossip.


You really have outdone yourself--and not in a good way.

[MADem]

27. What--no link, no explanation--just a META post-and-run? NT

[Maximumnegro]

35. Well apparently if you spend time

and effort listing facts you're 'desperate', so...

[MADem]

36. I am trying to understand what this thread is about--it's like "inside baseball."

Who is desperate?

Or not?

[Democracyinkind]

28. IRONY: Right wing shills pretending to protect DU from supposed right wing shills.

All the people screaming "Paulites" - watch out for them, among them are the real infiltrators. This is the first more or less sophisticated operation that I'm witnessibg here. They clearly want us as divided as possible.

[Savannahmann]

38. Are we talking about the same Amy Goodman?

Host of Democracy Now! That Amy Goodman?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Goodman

Any chance we're talking about Major League Baseball player Juan Gonzalez? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Gonz%C3%A1lez_(baseball) He was all right as a ball player, but seriously, I've never heard of him being particularly political. Perhaps it's my ignorance.

I'm certain we're not talking about Democracy Now! Juan Gonzalez. Because frankly, claiming that both Amy and Juan are too ignorant to understand some grand RW plan to embarrass the President is about as dumb as it gets. If we have sunk that low, then the lifeboats aren't just in the water, they've left the ship.