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jpak

(41,758 posts) Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:40 AM Jul 2013

Team Vigilante-Gunnut (Zimmerman) just got bushwacked by the Prosecution

They were not prepared for 3-degree murder/child abuse (sic) jury instructions.

And they are pissing off the judge too...

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Team Vigilante-Gunnut (Zimmerman) just got bushwacked by the Prosecution (Original Post) jpak Jul 2013 OP

What? JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #1

Trayvon Martin was 17 at the time, a minor. avebury Jul 2013 #2

That's not their excuse naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #5

More source for appeal... Pelican Jul 2013 #9

I would hope that any defense attorney would know enough to avebury Jul 2013 #11

His point, naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #13

Is the webstream live? Myrina Jul 2013 #3

Surfing cable news... jpak Jul 2013 #4

Ok thx. I want to listen to closing arguments Myrina Jul 2013 #7

The Judge has scheduled the jury to return to the court for 1:00 pm Florida time... Spazito Jul 2013 #10

Yes see below a link: avebury Jul 2013 #12

Defense team is pissing off the judge, right? n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2013 #6

Big Time jpak Jul 2013 #8

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)

1. What?

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:41 AM

Jul 2013

They put child abuse in there?

avebury

(10,952 posts)

2. Trayvon Martin was 17 at the time, a minor.

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:44 AM

Jul 2013

Not knowing that Trayvon was a minor is not an acceptable excuse.

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)

5. That's not their excuse

Reply to avebury (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:52 AM

Jul 2013

They were aware he was 17.

The defense's excuse is that the state was obviously preparing this charge for some time, and should have informed the court and the defense about this so that everyone could prepare.

Pelican

(1,156 posts)

9. More source for appeal...

Reply to naaman fletcher (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:58 AM

Jul 2013

avebury

(10,952 posts)

11. I would hope that any defense attorney would know enough to

Reply to naaman fletcher (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 11:00 AM

Jul 2013

anticipate changes in the charges leveled against their client. This incident occurred over 16 months ago. Wouldn't it make sense from the start to put together some type of outline for all possible charges and a quick list of cases applicable to each charge. You don't have to do a complete work up but some type of outline would go a long ways to reacting to what can be a fluid situation once you get to court.

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)

13. His point,

Reply to avebury (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 11:02 AM

Jul 2013

Was that, for example, he didn't prepare for vehicular manslaughter because that would be absurd, and that likewise he didn't prepare for child abuse because that is likewise absurd.

MEANWHILE, the state had obviously been preparing such for some time and could have just informed everyone about it.

I have no opinion on this one way or the other as it would seem to revolve around some arcane things.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)

3. Is the webstream live?

Reply to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:48 AM

Jul 2013

jpak

(41,758 posts)

4. Surfing cable news...

Reply to Myrina (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:50 AM

Jul 2013

n/t

Myrina

(12,296 posts)

7. Ok thx. I want to listen to closing arguments

Reply to jpak (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 11, 2013, 10:53 AM

Jul 2013

... my employer blocks all media streams and my i-data plan is just about used up for the month, so I'd like to know what time closing arguments are going to start, if anyone knows that.