sure am glad I'm not reading any of the spying NSA Snowden *ad infinitum* threads

[BlancheSplanchnik]

I'm sticking to women's lives right now. No bullshit, intrigue, personal opinion filters, "it's the principle of the thing" crap.

Saving women's lives and saving us from being forced, once again, into reproductive slavery, is far more important.

In my opinion.

[ConcernedCanuk]

1. Then why even mention spying NSA Snowden threads?

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You just started another one!



CC

[quinnox]

2. its nice that we all get to choose what we're interested in

[JimDandy]

12. Diplomacy!

[quinnox]

13. ha, I'm glad someone noticed!

[Democracyinkind]

3. Personally, I stick to the meta threads about NSA spying.nt

[cthulu2016]

4. Don't read 'em... just post 'em

[JaneyVee]

5. There really is a deeply disturbing war on women going on right now.

The Republican Party is relentless with their assault.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

10. and people here are giving me shit for calling attention to it.

funny.

[JaneyVee]

11. IMHO it's way more of an important story than the NSA.

Anyone not absolutely terrified by this Republican Party is not paying attention.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

14. If it were MEN in front of the firing line, you can be sure

every DUDE dissing this thread would be singing a very different tune.

Look how many of them just want to shut us up.

Some even shake their finger, saying we should be able to talk about more than one subject. But it's OK for them to talk only of spying and surveillance. Are they going to die directly from surveillance? Are they threatened with being forced to host an unwanted being implanted within their body? Do they have any idea of the horror of such a thing; and to be FORCED to carry it when its presence was not consensual?

They're pissed and SNARKY, like 12 year olds?


Because they don't have to fear it, they don't want to hear it.

[JaneyVee]

15. Yeah it's depressing, but I'm thankful for all the men who are standing with women

On this issue. The republican assault never ends. Not just on women but on workers, students, unions, middle class, poor, elderly, veterans, gays, minorities....

The Republican Party doesn't have a platform, it has an enemies list.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

16. so true. n/t

[RC]

6. Not everyone needs to go ape shit over the same high profile things all at the same time.

There are plenty of other important thing that need attention.
Quite often the brightest shiny's purpose it to distract from those other important issues.
So, go for it.

[questionseverything]

7. do you realize

the 4th amendment that guards the right to privacy,which in turn gives women the right to do as they wish with their own bodies is what snowden is trying to defend for YOU?

both are important and both are related

[marions ghost]

8. I was just gonna point out

how the two are connected.

People need to see the relationship, even as we focus on single issues.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

17. the avalanche of backbiting drowns out other issues

which are far more dire than the need to scream about who's more pure, where on the Liberal Spectrum one stands, who sucks on DU, who isn't supportive enough of the President, who supports the PResident too much.....

All these hundreds of thousands of ANCILLARY arguments are drowning out critical attacks on women's lives.

And MEN in this thread are continuing the pattern. Slagging me for how I worded my OP, for not thinking like they do, for distracting them, for suggesting that state-sanctioned reproductive slavery should take a back seat to their concern over abstract "Matters of Principle".

I don't see them getting too involved in saving women's lives.

[questionseverything]

24. abstract "Matters of Principle".

in roe vs wade the sc found that a woman could have an abortion before viability because of the right to privacy in the 4th amendment

if these rep controlled states get their way that will be challenged in front of robert's sc...roberts is same guy appointing all fisa judges,the same judges that actually changed the law by determining "relevant" means everything...do you think the same conservative judges that think every communication on the planet is free game to be collected will side with a woman controlling her own body?

the right to privacy promised in the 4th is all we have between us and state-sanctioned reproductive slavery

[BlancheSplanchnik]

39. as I've said repeatedly in this thread, it's the backbiting on and on

here that I was expressing disgust with.

All these hundreds of thousands of ANCILLARY arguments are drowning out critical attacks on women's lives.


Thank you for your factual information, though. That is much more appreciated than accusations that I'm anti-something or other, just because I ventilated my frustration with the all the intellectual ego-jousting going on here, which is drowning out more critical activities going on.

[questionseverything]

41. frustration is natural

the powers that be attack us on so many fronts,it is hard to know whr to focus the fight

[sabrina 1]

35. Taking away the rights of anyone, happens when we allow the government to remove the

rights granted in the Constitution.

If you think that people are just 'screaming' about those rights, you are right, and apparently they didn't scream loudly enough.

You go right ahead and write OPs about what you think is important and the rest of us will do the same thing.

The 4th Amendment is what protects women's rights to privacy. Just whining about the latest stories while ignoring the main reason WHY they can remove rights so easily now, isn't going to do a damn thing to stop them.

Good luck fighting for women's rights AFTER they destroy the 4th Amendment, once that happens they can go all the way to Roe V Wade.

Tunnel vision tends to obscure the focus and narrow the fight guaranteeing a lost cause.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

38. the avalanche of arguments over petty shit is what I'm sick of

it's what's driving me away from the whole shitstorm-- the avalanche of backbiting, which drowns out other issues.

Why not focus an avalanche on the firing squads being set up aiming at women, and thereby, fight for privacy rights as well? Why must every issue come before the issue of women's safety and right to own t heir own body? Why is a woman's right to life always viewed as ancillary to every other issue of the day?

Can't it be the other way around? Can't the other fights be fought as functions of prioritizing women's lives?


But most of all, why the big push to put me down and shut me up and misread what I'm talking about?

Implying that I'm against Roe v Wade privacy rights.....
no, it's the fucking gossip show and posturing and personality cults taking up all the attention. That's where the problem is, for me.

[usGovOwesUs3Trillion]

19. Excellent point

[Maximumnegro]

20. OMG that's hilarious

now Snowden is defending abortion rights.

Now that's comedy.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

9. Was that really necessary?

By calling it out you are advancing the story. Let's see what happens on this thread.

[railsback]

18. People certainly have a choice

Worrying about the bogeyman, or actual assaults on our rights, like womens rights, voting rights, lgbt rights, social programs, ALL facing full on, full frontal attacks in broad daylight by the GOP.

[TheKentuckian]

21. Roe is a privacy ruling. If you don't care about privacy then you don't care about Roe

[BlancheSplanchnik]

37. what a statement to wrongly accuse me of

yeesh.

So many people misreading my point

and getting on MY case in this thread. Getting their arrogant on.

Meanwhile, the point that GOP talibaggers are actually passing laws that are a premeditated murder of women....... is getting lost in yet more rhetoric.


what's driving me away from the whole shitstorm is the avalanche of backbiting, which drowns out other issues.

Why not focus an avalanche on the firing squads being set up aiming at women, and thereby, fight for privacy rights as well? Why must every issue come before the issue of women's safety and right to own t heir own body? Why is a woman's right to life always viewed as ancillary to every other issue of the day?

Can't it be the other way around? Can't the other fights be fought as functions of prioritizing women's lives?


And why the big push to put me down and shut me up for bringing it up in this way?

[Fumesucker]

22. The SCOTUS decided Roe v Wade on a right to privacy

No right to privacy, no right to abortion or birth control.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade#Right_to_privacy

[randome]

23. Then you missed the thread claiming that Snowden was BlancheSplanchnik's great uncle!

But I agree with you. There are far more important things than watching the Snowden antics.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[BlancheSplanchnik]

27. I did, in fact, miss that.

[sabrina 1]

40. Lol, coming from someone who has been in every Snowden thread. Here's a suggestion for

when something is not worthy of discussion, the admins have provided some great tools, thrash thread is one of them.

It's simple, eg you should only find people in threads they find worthy of comment and should not see them claiming they find them 'not worthy of attention' because that would be silly right?

So, we won't be seeing you anymore in any of the Snowden threads then?

[olddots]

25. Some people need heroes

my heroes are the women who stick up to the ignorant so called men who decide they are the rule makers . Thank you for trying to bring up that isn't so tee shirt trendy .

[snappyturtle]

26. One of the outstanding traits of most women is their

ability to multi-task. imho

[BlancheSplanchnik]

28. I'm just tired of the avalanche of backbiting, which drowns out other issues

that are far more dire than the need to scream about who's more pure, where on the Liberal Spectrum one stands, who sucks on DU, who isn't supportive enough of the President, who supports the PResident too much.....

All these hundreds of thousands of ANCILLARY arguments are drowning out critical attacks on women's lives.

[nadinbrzezinski]

29. They are connected

And markers of authoritarian states.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

30. yes indeed.

what's driving me away from the whole shitstorm is the avalanche of backbiting, which drowns out other issues.

Why not focus an avalanche on the firing squads being set up aiming at women, and thereby, fight for privacy rights as well? Why must every issue come before the issue of women's safety and right to own t heir own body? Why is a woman's right to life always viewed as ancillary to every other issue of the day?

Can't it be the other way around? Can't the other fights be fought as functions of prioritizing women's lives?


And why the big push to put me down and shut me up for bringing it up in this way?

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. You are free to only fight for women's lives

I will fight for the 4th Amendment, which is the basis of Roe

Regardless police states, authoritarian states, even in the Wolin model, attack labor, attack women, and attack rights of assembly and privacy. It is connected.

I guess Americans will have to live through it, and we are barely down the rabbit hole, to understand the totality of it.

Oh and it is not republicans, though they are vocal with that aspect as a means of social control and the divide and conquer of the proles. It is both, and by design.

Decadent empires are just a nasty place to be...

[BlancheSplanchnik]

33. good then.

we all focus where we feel most compelled.

[RainDog]

31. What is happening for women is an embarrassment to this nation

Actually, it's worse than an embarrassment - it's the take over of state legislatures by theocrats whose express goal is to deny women full human rights.

They deserve the most extreme punishment possible for this.

The threads that have been posted here, ad infinitum, trying to smear Snowden and/or Greenwald- those are worth ignoring in total. I assume at least a few recent additions to DU are part of the group that was operating for HBGary after anonymous came after them. Or that corporate model is the one employed here, at the least. I have no use for corporate propaganda.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

34. thank you! So many people misreading my point

and getting on MY case in this thread. Getting their arrogant on.

Meanwhile, the point that GOP talibaggers are actually passing laws that are a premeditated murder of women....... is getting lost in yet more rhetoric.

[RainDog]

36. Texas just allowed the theocrats to diminish human rights for women

they trust women to give birth and raise a child, but not for having the moral sense to make decisions in the best interests of their families under the restrictions provided by Roe v. Wade.

What a shameful day.

I try not to hate one group of people, but I have a problem with white Republicans.