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Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 11:38 AM Jul 2013

Preparing for Riots After Zimmerman Verdict Is Racial Fear Mongering

I thought this deserved it's own thread.

Given the way law enforcement delayed over Trayvon Martin’s fatal shooting—it was 46 days before George Zimmerman was arrested—there is cause for concern. It was a groundswell of protest from the black community that brought the shooting to the nation’s attention—remember the One Million Hoodie March? This case has sparked a movement—in defense of young black men and in opposition to Stand Your Ground law. But the pre-emptive call for calm runs counter to recent history, and may be akin to racial fear mongering.


Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2013/07/11/preparing-for-riots-after-zimmerman-verdict-is-racial-fear-mongering/#ixzz2YkfjWdH7

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Preparing for Riots After Zimmerman Verdict Is Racial Fear Mongering (Original Post) Just Saying Jul 2013 OP
Normally I'd be 100% in agreement with that statement tularetom Jul 2013 #1
I don't think there will be any riots. HappyMe Jul 2013 #3
That would be the rednecks Bake Jul 2013 #6
Crap. HappyMe Jul 2013 #7
The Time article points out that it has been a long time since racial riots, and it is not likely to Hoyt Jul 2013 #2
A long time? kiva Jul 2013 #8
Maybe they aren't as right wingish as some. Hoyt Jul 2013 #9
Or maybe they have no sense of history. kiva Jul 2013 #13
Fail - I was in LA for Rodney King verdict FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #4
Yes and that was 21 years ago as the article states. Just Saying Jul 2013 #5
You sure are quick to play the race card FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #14
Right Just Saying Jul 2013 #15
Your the Bigot in this conversation FreakinDJ Jul 2013 #19
Name-calling= Just Saying Jul 2013 #21
Releasing the info to the public, possibly. Preparing for it, no. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #10
Publicly and overtly preparing for riots is a good way to ensure riots happen. They're sending out Erose999 Jul 2013 #11
there are people right here on this board advocating riots ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #12
"Advocating riots"? I've missed seeing that anywhere. Judi Lynn Jul 2013 #18
here is a long time member doing just that ProdigalJunkMail Jul 2013 #20
Thank you. In a thread here panicking about riots, I was surprised and encouraged Number23 Jul 2013 #16
Well according to some people Just Saying Jul 2013 #22
Sometimes I find it impossible to tell the difference Number23 Jul 2013 #23
The riot is cops and civilians who kill Black people Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #17

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
1. Normally I'd be 100% in agreement with that statement
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 11:53 AM
Jul 2013

But in this case I think there is a chance of riots no matter what the verdict is and it might be prudent to anticipate it.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. The Time article points out that it has been a long time since racial riots, and it is not likely to
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 12:04 PM
Jul 2013

occur now.

Why the right wingers keep suggesting the black folks will riot if Zman escapes conviction, is beyond me?

I bet a bunch of gun nuts are cleaning their weapons, selecting their loads, buying more guns, spreading racial animosity, etc., right now in preparation to shoot people -- either if Zman walks or Zman is convicted.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
13. Or maybe they have no sense of history.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 09:15 PM
Jul 2013

The economy sucks far worse than it was 20 years ago, and economic stress is a major factor in unrest. And, honestly, I don't see that the social situation is radically different that it was in the early 1990s.

That said, I truly hope the author is correct and that,no matter the verdict, calm prevails

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
4. Fail - I was in LA for Rodney King verdict
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jul 2013

Being forewarned will keep the organized looters at bay.

They used the excuse of the verdit to empty out gun shops and extract vengence on Korean owned businesses.

Justify that

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
5. Yes and that was 21 years ago as the article states.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 01:03 PM
Jul 2013

And there has not been a race riot like that surrounding this or any other case with this sort of racial tension since.

But I guess some people will always make assumptions about "them." I mean at the core isn't that exactly what this trial is about?

I won't try to justify rioting anymore than you should try justifying racial fear mongering.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
14. You sure are quick to play the race card
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 12:19 AM
Jul 2013

Remember that guy on "Stanford and Son"

"The Man be out to get you"

Ha

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
15. Right
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 01:16 AM
Jul 2013

Because by "they" you meant little purple fairies?

I played the card you dealt pal and you ain't slick.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
19. Your the Bigot in this conversation
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:18 AM
Jul 2013

You accused me without knowing who I am because I didn't agree with you

I'm sure you have a very long list of "Trigger Words" - Especially when folks don't agree with your opinion
 

AllINeedIsCoffee

(772 posts)
10. Releasing the info to the public, possibly. Preparing for it, no.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:01 PM
Jul 2013

It is the job of government to have contingency plans for every possible situation.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
11. Publicly and overtly preparing for riots is a good way to ensure riots happen. They're sending out
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:06 PM
Jul 2013

the message that riots are the expected response.

The when the people do riot it will be justification for further militarizing police forces and spending obscene amounts of cash doing it.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
12. there are people right here on this board advocating riots
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:09 PM
Jul 2013

so, I guess maybe NOT what you are thinking...

sP

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
18. "Advocating riots"? I've missed seeing that anywhere.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:01 AM
Jul 2013

Observant people have noticed when we get wacko posts here, they usually fit a pattern which lead many to believe they are only right-wing a-holes putting up inflammatory crap in hopes it might be possible to use them to stir up their fellow a-holes when they try to pass them off as coming from Democrats.

Progressives do NOT lynch, they don't drag people behind them in pick-up trucks until their heads are ripped away, progressives don't run over people in parking lots, don't fire bomb their homes, plant burning crosses in their yards, paint swastikas on their houses, and all the other stuff pure right-wing trash is known to do.

Looks as if you've REALLY got the wrong message board.

ProdigalJunkMail

(12,017 posts)
20. here is a long time member doing just that
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 06:35 AM
Jul 2013

looks as if I have the wrong board? I think not...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023175292#post83

say what you like, but there are people here who would advocate and even do horrible things just because their idea of justice is not met... time to remove the rose-colored glasses, Judi and see that there are bad people on both sides of the aisle.

sP

Number23

(24,544 posts)
16. Thank you. In a thread here panicking about riots, I was surprised and encouraged
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 04:07 AM
Jul 2013

that a sizeable majority of posters were able to see that right away and said as much.

Though, predictably, there were a few that felt compelled to let their "troooooo colors" come shining through and had the OP's back while (laughably) attempting to chastise everyone else. Funny isht.


In some ways, the calls for order recapitulate what this case is all about—the assumption of violence on the part of the black community, and of black men. No one seems to be concerned about the possible violence of Zimmerman supporters if Zimmerman is convicted. To try to preemptively deter the black community from taking matters into their own hands should they feel justice has not been done is ironic considering that Zimmerman’s actions themselves were a kind of vigilanteeism—a violence above and beyond what many, including the prosecution and Martin’s family, feel was necessary.


Exactly. K&R

Number23

(24,544 posts)
23. Sometimes I find it impossible to tell the difference
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:23 PM
Jul 2013

And comments such as the ones you're referring to complete with a quote from Sanford and Son ( ) are exactly why.

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