Above all, you must realize that if you go ahead with this invasion, Osama bin Laden will triumph...

[Octafish]

...rising from his grave or seclusion. His network will be swollen with fresh recruits, and other charismatic individuals will seek to build upon his model, multiplying those networks. And the United States will have delivered the death blow to itself. Using your own act of war, Osama and his cohort will irrevocably divide the hearts and minds of the Arab Street from moderate governments in Islamic countries that have been holding back the tide. Power to the people, what we call “democracy,” will secure the rise of fundamentalists. -- Susan Lindauer’s last letter to Andrew Card, January 6, 2003*



CIA Whistleblower Susan Lindauer wrote those prophetic words -- three months before the invasion. For her trouble, the warmongers in Washington saw to it that she got shut-up, drugged and thrown in the slammer.

Never heard of Susan Lindauer? Don't worry, neither have most of the people of the United States.

[Luminous Animal]

1. K&R And direct link to the letter she wrote...

http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/0710/LindauerToCardLetterJan2003.pdf

[geek tragedy]

2. Susan Lindauer is a mentally ill woman who suffers from psychotic delusions.

She's been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic who's invented a fantasy world in her own head wherein she was a high level spymaster while working as a low level staffer on Capitol Hill.


She is not a whistleblower, as she never worked for the CIA except in her own imagination.

Not only was she a spymaster, but she was our top level contact with not only Saddam, but also Gaddhafi, during the Clinton administration.


Textbook delusions of grandeur.

[Waiting For Everyman]

4. Bullshit, I remember the news better than that.

And diagnosed by who? There are lots of shrinks in the service of the Surveillance State.

[geek tragedy]

5. Both her own and the government's psychiatrists found her mentally

unfit to stand trial.

Literally not single thing about her high level contacts has ever been substantiated. She imagined the whole thing.

[Waiting For Everyman]

6. Please refer to post #4.

[geek tragedy]

9. Your choice to have blind faith in the rantings of a diagnosed schizophrenic

who claims to have been the nation's #1 super secret diplomat at the age of 33 without any background or experience.

[truedelphi]

38. Again, please read post number four.

Some of us don't suspect Lindhauer of being delusional.

In psychology there is a term called "projection." You might wanna read up on it.

[geek tragedy]

40. Yes, you have blind faith in what she says.

As I said, your (plural) disinterest in engaging in critical thinking regarding someone who's been found delusional and mentally incompetent to stand trial by multiple judges and psychiatrists is your own deficiency, not mine.

I choose to believe facts instead of other people's schizophrenic fantasies.

[zappaman]

44. When it comes to 911, I believe this guy

Haupt was one of the earliest to join the truther bandwagon and coined the acronyms MIHOP ("Made It Happen On Purpose&quot and LIHOP ("Let It Happen On Purpose&quot .[2] MIHOP theories propose that the events of 9/11 were deliberately planned and carried out by the Bush administration, usually involving schemes such as explosives being planted in the Twin Towers or a cruise missile being fired at the Pentagon building. LIHOP, on the other hand, proposes that the Bush administration had prior knowledge of the attacks but, obviously, let them happen to ensure support for the War on Terror.

Haupt is not only a hardcore MIHOPer, but a "No-Planer." While MIHOPers generally assert that planes did hit the towers and Pentagon, they argue that explosives were what ultimately brought them down. No-Planers go one step further in the crazy department, claiming that holographic images were projected into the sky or over cruise missiles in order to make them appear like Boeing 767s and 757s (Haupt calls this "9/11 TV fakery&quot .[2][3] (Although there are even more out there theories.)


Haupt's belligerence and penchant for the crankiest forms of 9/11 conspiracy theories have made him incredibly unpopular even within the truther movement. More "serious" truthers have accused him of being part of an attempt to hijack the movement and gone out of their way to debunk no-planer theories.[4] After he harassed members of We Are Change, another conspiracy group, he was widely accused of being an agent for a COINTELPRO operation.[5][6] He also had a brief run-in with Dylan Avery.[2] He has intentionally marked out his territory as an internal dissident within the 9/11 "truth" movement, accusing the conspiracy theorists of conspiring against him.[7][8]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nico_Haupt

Warning:the link goes to rationalwioi, so if anyone thinks Susan Lindauer is a valid source that needs to be listened to, they might want to stay away and go to infowars instead...

[geek tragedy]

45. Hey, wouldn't you know that Lindauer claims to have been part of the government effort

to stop the 9/11 attacks, and that she was tasked with squeezing information about them from Saddam and Gaddhafi, delivery threats ordered by Powell and Cheney?

[zappaman]

48. Was that when she met Bin Laden and he told her the location of a bomb?

[geek tragedy]

51. Using her 'psychic gifts' nt

[geek tragedy]

56. Just to be clear, she claims she used her 'psychic gifts' to spy on Libya and Iraq

and her claim that she has a "telepathy energy type of thing" doesn't cause you to wonder if she might be imagining some of this stuff?

GULLIBLE.

[Octafish]

8. Except the part where she said bin Laden would win and America would lose...

...thanks to those who lied America into war.

[geek tragedy]

10. That part was pretty obvious. Didn't need to be a super duper AAA+

spymaster and international woman of mystery to know that.

[zappaman]

12. My favorite

"The judge cited the testimony of a government psychiatrist who said that Ms. Lindauer claimed to have special powers and that she had indicated she once met with Osama bin Laden, who disclosed to her the location of a bomb. The judge said that demonstrated “a lack of connection with reality.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/17/nyregion/17lindauer.html?_r=0

[Electric Monk]

18. That judge just so happened to be Michael Mukasey. Funny, that.

[zappaman]

22. Easy to see why

unless you buy any of this...

"The judge cited the testimony of a government psychiatrist who said that Ms. Lindauer claimed to have special powers and that she had indicated she once met with Osama bin Laden, who disclosed to her the location of a bomb. The judge said that demonstrated “a lack of connection with reality.”

[geek tragedy]

29. This while serving as Zoe Loefgrens' press secretary in DC, and being the CIA's main asset

in dealing with both Libya and Iraq (in New YOrk and Malaysia)

[Octafish]

37. The guy's chums with Ghouliani and by extension that fine American convict Bernie Kerik.

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/9/15/202356/372/otherpolitics/Michael-Mukasey-May-Be-Named-AG-Monday

The great DUer bobthedrummer talked about him, back before Mukasey was in position to let Wall Street loot the banks.

[geek tragedy]

53. He dismissed the charges against her. Which she should have seen coming, given

her "psychic gifts."



He also said the government couldn't give her anti-psychotic drugs. Sounds like he did his job right.

[Electric Monk]

11. I hadn't heard of her before. I just did a little googling, and found these

http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/lindauer/
Biography

As a U.S. Intelligence Asset, Susan Lindauer covered anti-terrorism at the Iraqi Embassy in New York from 1996 up to the invasion. Independent sources have confirmed that she gave advance warning about the 9/11 attack. She also started talks for the Lockerbie Trial with Libyan diplomats. Shortly after requesting to testify before Congress about successful elements of Pre-War Intelligence, Lindauer became one of the first non-Arab Americans arrested on the Patriot Act as an "Iraqi Agent". She was accused of warning her second cousin, White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card and Secretary of State Colin Powell that War with Iraq would have catastrophic consequences. Gratis of the Patriot Act, her indictment was loaded with "secret charges" and "secret evidence." She was subjected to one year in prison on Carswell Air Force Base in Fort Worth, Texas without a trial or hearing, and threatened with indefinite detention and forcible drugging to shut her up. After five years of indictment without a conviction or guilty plea, the Justice Department dismissed all charges five days before President Obama’s inauguration.

Lindauer has written a book Extreme Prejudice: The Terrifying Story of the Patriot Act and the Cover Ups of 9/11 and Iraq about her experience.

and
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/03/breaking-the-set-bush-cheney-knew-about-911-months-before-it-happened-says-whistleblower-charged-under-patriot-act-video/

Hmmmmmmm.....

[Octafish]

25. Whether she's a regular citizen of a super-spy, what the government did to her is disgraceful.

Thank you for the info and links, Electric Monk! I'll read in detail and viddy later this evening.

One things 4-shoor: Weird how the Bush-Cheney people get all hostile when someone brings up Bush had plenty of warning before hand. Take the NSA...

[geek tragedy]

27. The first sentence is a schizophrenic delusion of hers.

She claims that she was covering the Iraqi embassy in NYC from 1996 through 2003, while also claiming:

As the U.S. Asset who started negotiations for the Lockerbie Trial with Libyan diplomats, I had close ties to Libya's U.N. Mission from 1995 to 2003. Given my long involvement in the Lockerbie saga, I have continued to enjoy special access to high level intelligence gossip on Libya.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/03/28/960880/-Libya-s-Blood-for-Oil-The-Vampire-War

Amazing, she was the chief 'asset' covering the Iraqi embassy for the CIA from 1996 through 2003, while also serving as the"US asset whos started negotiations with the Libyan government" and who still gets "special access to high level intelligence gossip"

All while working as Zoe Loefgren's press secretary!

[alfredo]

62. Here

"In 2006, she was released from prison after judge Michael B. Mukasey ruled that Lindauer was unfit to stand trial and could not be forced to take antipsychotic medication to make her competent to stand trial." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Lindauer Most other links are to conspiracy sites, or Linkedin type sites.

[geek tragedy]

63. She claims that she used 'psychic gifts' as part of her spy work in her own pleadings.

That's right, in motion papers intending to show she's not crazy, she claims she was a psychic super spy.

Can't make this stuff up.

[Octafish]

73. Not crazy. Pentagon and CIA had Remote Viewing programs going on for spy work.

Wired talked about them:

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2007/06/dinner-with/

Weird stuff for those new to the subject, can blow somebody's mind.

[geek tragedy]

74. Of course you would say that. Do you believe her story about meeting bin Laden

in a Paris rail station in the 1980s? The one where he said "yo, I totally put a bomb over there by that storage locker" and she was like "no way" and he was like "yes way" and then she called the police and saved the day?

http://www.electionfraudnews.com/News/sl/lindauerdeclaration.pdf

[Octafish]

75. You brought it up. Psychic spies were big time.

Pentagon and CIA psychic spying reportedly was a very rewarding field. Here's a good overview for those interested in a fascinating part of our recent history thst hout near-zero press coverage:

http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/5164/psychic_spies.html

As for electionfraudnews.com, that's DUer Michael Collin's site. Ask him.

[zappaman]

7. Shhhh!

Don't add any reality to this fantasy!
911 truthers hate that!

And don't mention she was declared mentally unfit to stand trial.

[rhett o rick]

13. What point are you trying to make by being so nasty? Have you no compassion at all?

Dont bother to answer, it was a rhetorical question.

And what does that have to do with her prophetic words?

[geek tragedy]

16. Because the diary falsely claims she was drugged and oppressed for

being a whistleblower.

No, she's just crazy.

Nothing she says about her background is true.

[rhett o rick]

26. The OP is about what she said about bin Ladin. It's not about her.

Your hatred of those that speak out against authority, your desperate need to vilify anyone that speaks out against authority is very discouraging. Do you consider yourself a "politically liberal" person?? My definition includes having an open-mind and having empathy.

[geek tragedy]

28. No, it's called speaking the truth

From the diary:

CIA Whistleblower Susan Lindauer wrote those prophetic words -- three months before the invasion. For her trouble, the warmongers in Washington saw to it that she got shut-up, drugged and thrown in the slammer.

Never heard of Susan Lindauer? Don't worry, neither have most of the people of the United States.

This is blatantly false.

But the diary isn't so compelling as the reality--Bush's foreign policy was so awful even crazy people thought it was a bad idea.

[rhett o rick]

34. So you claim it's false. Why should we believe you are more sane than she? nm

[geek tragedy]

35. Because she's been declared mentally incompetent to stand

trial by multiple psychiatrists and a multiple federal judges.

Also, her claims are completely unsubstantiated and contradictory (how did she juggle being our #1 negotiator with Libya, Zoe Loefgren's press secretary, and the main intelligence agent covering the Iraqi UN delegation all at the same time?)

Or how about her story of personally meeting bin Laden and having 'special powers.'

Oh, and stuffing kleenexes in her mouth at trial.

To put it another way, what evidence exists that any of her story is true? You have none. But, it must be true because it's on the Internet.

[rhett o rick]

36. Maybe you stuff tissues in your mouth. I dont know. nm

[geek tragedy]

54. I don't claim to have spied on world leaders using 'psychic gifts."

She does.

Does that strike you as the kind of claim a sane person makes?

[rhett o rick]

55. I know nothing about her other than what you tell me. And I dont trust you.

No offense. I will have to read up and learn more. I am disappointed you didnt supply any links, but I should be able to find some.

[geek tragedy]

58. Links!!!

http://electionfraudnews.com/News/sl/Motion_Reconsideration.pdf

Page 11, third paragraph et seq

http://www.electionfraudnews.com/News/sl/lindauerdeclaration.pdf

Bottom of page 9.

[rhett o rick]

79. Thanks. nm

[RC]

41. Sounds like you have been studying up on the history of the Soviet Union.

That is exactly what they did to dissidents.

[geek tragedy]

43. So, there's a giant conspiracy to make her look crazy.

Whatever you folks do, don't expend energy engaging in critical thinking about someone who tells you what you want to hear.

Tell me, how do you think she managed to have two super duper high level superspy jobs while being Zoe Loefgren's secretary while occasionally stealing away to talk shop with bin Laden?

[Gravitycollapse]

47. Her own doctor stated she had shown no signs of mental illnesses while incarcerated.

http://electionfraudnews.com/News/sl/Motion_Reconsideration.pdf

In testimony before Judge Mukasey on May, 9, 2006, Dr. Colin Vas from Carswell FMC
admitted that over seven months of incarceration, staff observed no signs of hallucinations and no signs
of hearing voices, nor any depression or bipolar disorder. Carswell reported that Ms. Lindauer walked 4
-6 miles on the track every day, and consistently participated at "indoor recreation activities." Ms.
Lindauer also spent many hours at the prison law library studying up on her case. In its monthly reports,
Carswell wrote: "Good physical health. Socializes well. Good intellectual functioning." And "no
behavioral problems."

[geek tragedy]

49. My favorite part:

Although "remote viewing" is not what Ms. Lindauer claims to have done, she can prove that both the CIA and the Defense Intelligence had knowledge of, and endorsed her application of what she claims to be her psychic gifts, in order to establish difficult relationships in the Middle East. Ironically, Ms. Lindauer might have enjoyed greater success because she did so.


Whereas Dr. Kleinman evidently desires to suggest that Ms. Lindauer's assertions about her so-called 'psychic abilities' are evidence of a thought process "unconnected to reality," in fact psychic phenomenon is something that many other people find interesting and wish to cultivate., As it relates to this case, U.S. intelligence does not care much about how their agents and assets discover and gather valuable intelligence truths--so long as that information proves reliable and accurate.

Got that? She claimed she used her psychic powers to help gather intelligence on Iraq and Libya. In court pleadings.

Go ahead and believe that, and be sure to tip Ms. Cleo extra.

[RC]

50. Sorry, I'm not into your fantasies, so I can't answer that question

[geek tragedy]

52. Are you aware she claims that she used psychic powers to spy on Libya and Iraq

and to communicate with Osama bin Laden?

Okay, yeah, no chance someone who says stuff like that is crazy. Must be a gubmint conspiracy.

So, on one hand you have someone working in DC who claims the CIA and DIA contracted her to use her PSYCHIC ABILITIES to spy on Libya, Iraq and perhaps Al Qaeda, who's been found mentally incompetent to stand trial by multipled judges and psychiatrists.

And you claim that people who disbelieve her are the ones living in a fantasy world.

[RC]

57. I just barely heard of her just now.

Unlike some here, I need to do some research before I can form an opinion.
You opinions, on the other hand, have been proven suspect for quite some time, so there's that.

[geek tragedy]

59. Amazingly, I had already done the research because I had heard of her.

And thus knew she was nuts.

But, I'm sure your theory of a gubmint conspiracy to falsely portray her as mentally disturbed is right on.

[RC]

61. Where did you meet her?

[geek tragedy]

64. Never had the experience. But, there's a mountain of evidence that she's nuts.

Most of it coming out of her own mouth.

But maybe you're right, and she really is a psychic, globetrotting super spy and there really was a gubmint conspiracy to falsely portray her as crazy.

[zappaman]

66. Her brother thinks she has mental problems as well.

And had them early on in childhood.
But he probably does not know her as well as some anonymous poster does.

[geek tragedy]

67. Did you know she met bin Laden in the mid 1980's (at 22 years of age) and prevented him from

blowing up a bomb in a Paris rail station? He told her there was a bomb after they engaged in some small talk.

http://www.electionfraudnews.com/News/sl/lindauerdeclaration.pdf

Start at bottom of page 5.

Totally believable.

[Politicalboi]

68. Didn't Bush say he spoke to Jesus?

Look where he was. Same mumbo jumbo, but one is accepted, the other not. LOL! I don't believe in either one.

[geek tragedy]

69. She also personally prevented Osama bin Laden

from bombing a Paris rail station in the 1980s, after Osama told her there was a bomb and he was going to detonate it.

Kind of like Bush reporting for TANG duty.

[Doremus]

71. Perhaps the same way that Judith Miller managed to work for the CIA

while being a NYT columnist? As well as many, many other so-called "journalists" managed to function in more than one capacity?

[geek tragedy]

72. She wasn't a journalist, she was a Congressional staffer.

Also, she claims she foiled a bomb plot by Osama bin Laden in Paris during the Reagan administration. Apparently they were having cofffee and he was like, oh by the way, I'm gonna detonate a bomb all up in here, and she was like "gendarme!!" and she totally saved the day.

http://www.electionfraudnews.com/News/sl/lindauerdeclaration.pdf

Start at paragraph 16 on bottom of page 5.

[Doremus]

80. You're replying with great zeal. Some might say overzealousness.

Multiple posts, repeating the same information in each, etc.

Why?

[geek tragedy]

81. Government conspiracy. Be sure to scrub your computer tonight.

Either that, or people on the Internet like to argue.

[reusrename]

93. psssttt! Post #82 I think it's about you.

[truedelphi]

3. A big kick and rec for

Lindhauer, Binney, Drake, and Manning.

And all other whistleblowers that have tried desperately to get the truth out to their superiors, their colleagues and We the American People.

[rhett o rick]

14. You sure are to invite the BOG's wrath with a post like that. nm

[Waiting For Everyman]

30. The BOG reminds me of the kind of thing HB Gary is doing.

Lots of disinfo comes out of that small corner of DU. Not everyone of course, some are needed for cover.

[geek tragedy]

31. Your affinity for Susan Lindauer makes sense now. nt

[Waiting For Everyman]

32. So does your name. nt

[rhett o rick]

33. If that's supposed to be an insult, it's a lame one. nm

[newfie11]

23. +1 billion

[mainer]

15. I'd never heard of her ... until now. Thanks.

We need to hear more about her. All this happened to her, and she was a relative of Andrew Card!

[geek tragedy]

17. She was put on trial and then released when the court concluded

she was mentally unfit to stand trial.

(she's not a whistleblower).

[newfie11]

19. What have we become???

I am disgusted, embarrassed to be an American. If this is how far down we have sank is there any way back. Not with the set up we have now, paid off politicians, crooked and secret courts and judges, corporations ruling.

[MrScorpio]

20. The greatest threat that ME ever posed against us is what would befall ourselves if we attacked it

[Autumn]

21. Interesting. Going to read later the name sounds familiar.

[snappyturtle]

42. It's very interesting....considering all the crap she went through

I'm surprised she can be as engaging and lucid as she is (did I say 'interesting' too) in this video on YouTube. She was an embarassment to the bush administration and incarcerated and then put in a medical facility until months later let go. imho She was held because she was an unregistered lobbyist....whatever that is. She went to Smith and the London School of Economics...no fool she. At worst, and I don't know this for certain, she may have suffered from intermittant episodes of grandeur. In the video she talks a great deal about Manning...wish we had more speaking up as she has. imho

I sent this to you because I think you will find it intriguing after reading the article.

[xocet]

89. Thanks for the post of that video. I was largely unfamiliar with her situation until a poster

downthread started spouting psychiatric evaluations of her and naming her an unreliable source regarding historical events.

[snappyturtle]

92. If you go to youtube and plug in her name there is a 90 video

where she talks extensively as to her role as a CIA asset. At the end she discusses her legal case and the attempts to have her labeled as incompetent. I find her extremely interesting and compelling especially in her talking about the lead up to 9/11 and then the Iraq war.

You just have to listen and form your opinion. I've heard her before so today I was quite taken back by the down thread accusations.

[xocet]

95. Thanks. I will take a look for that.

The down thread poster seems to just be upping a post count. The posts made by that one are seemingly entirely substance-free. It might be the ghost of graham4anything.

[indepat]

24. Susan Lindauer foresaw what the cabal foresaw imo: all the ingredients for creating perpetual war

and the faux cover to abrogate constitution freedoms and protections. It's all so simple when the dots are connected.

[yodermon]

39. I prefer Karen Kwiatkowski

she was speaking out against the necons years ago.
e.g. this DU thread of yore:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3793125

She was interviewed in "why we fight" and "highjacking catastrophe"

except *whoops*! She's now a paulbot, who ran for congress as a repuke, so of course everything she's ever said or done must be summarily dismissed.

[Octafish]

46. Coleen Rowley is good, plus she's a Democrat.

From what may be an underappreciated outfit called "Americans Who Tell The Truth"

Coleen Rowley

FBI agent, Whistleblower : b. 1954

[font color="blue"][font size="5"]"What if you lived in a country where, after the Administration negligently failed to prevent a major terrorist attack, they deliberately exploited everyone's fears and utilized shock doctrine to do INSANELY stupid and dangerous things: things like launching costly pre-emptive wars, subverting law, and destroying the checks and balances of the Constitution and common standards of decency by re-instituting torture? Well, We DO live in that country."[/font size][/font color]

SOURCE: http://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/portraits/coleen-rowley

Of course, people who tell the truth may not be popular in either a democracy or tyranny. Call 'em crazy.

[Laelth]

60. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

[Blackford]

65. I apologize if this is antagonistic, but Lindauer is not a reliable source.

I simply cannot believe anything she has ever said.

[xocet]

77. Interesting...Did you join just to post that comment? How about some background information?

Oh and welcome to DU.

[Blackford]

78. Her backround suggest a woman with severe psychoogical issues

Issues that apparently go untreated to this day even though she never stood trial due to those psychological issues. She fought being given anti-psychotics which would have allowed her to stand trial and won, thus never being medicated. Since she was never psychologically competent to stand trial, all charges were dropped.

Such a person cannot be considered a reliable source.

BTW, I joined to post this response.

[xocet]

83. A known prediction does not require its author to be reliable - anyone can judge its truth value....

Here is the case against her which was dropped:

448 F.Supp.2d 558 (2006)

UNITED STATES of Americav.Susan LINDAUER, a/k/a "Symbol Susan", Defendant.

No. S2 03 CR. 807(MBM).

United States District Court, S.D. New York.

September 6, 2006.

559 *559 Michael J. Garcia, Esq., United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York,Edward C. O'Callaghan, Esq., Assistant U.S. Attorney, New York City, for Plaintiff.

Sanford Talkin, Esq., Talkin, Muccigrosso & Roberts L.L.P., New York City, for Defendant.

OPINION AND ORDER

MUKASEY, District Judge.

...

Although it is concededly a risky business to judge the thrust of underlying charged conduct from the overt acts set forth in an indictment, the acts attributed to Lindauer in the indictment are the following: meetings in 1999 and October 2001 with IIS officers, at the latter of which she accepted an unspecified task; acceptance in January 2002 of $232.77 and on two dates in February of $311.10 and $270.00, respectively, for travel, lodging and meal expenses;travel from February 23 to March 8, 2002, to Iraq, via Jordan, and meetings there in venues that included the Al Rashid Hotel in Baghdad, where she accepted $5,000; a meeting in Manhattan where she accepted $200.00 for travel, lodging and meal expenses; delivery on January 8, 2003, to the home of an unspecified government official, of a letter in which she conveyed "her established access to, and contacts with, members of the Saddam Hussein regime, in an unsuccessful attempt to influence United States foreign policy." (Indictment ¶3n) Thereafter, she is alleged to have engaged in a series of acts involving an undercover FBI agent posing as a member of the Libyan intelligence service, all apparently directed at supporting what are referred to as "resistance groups in post-war Iraq" (Indictment ¶ 3o), by which I conclude is meant groups resisting the United States and its allies and the post-war Iraqi government.

Lindauer has been reported in numerous news articles to be a cousin, to a remote degree of consanguinity, of Andrew Card, a former White House chief of staff in the current administration. E.g., David Samuels, Susan Lindauer's Mission to Baghdad, New York Times Magazine, Aug. 29, 2004, at 25. Although Lindauer is reported in the cited article to have contacted Card during her period of contact with Iraqi officials, it is uncertain whether he is the unspecified "government official" referred to in the indictment.

The substantive counts of the indictment charge defendant with acting as an unregistered agent of the Iraqi government in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 951 (Count Two); accepting about$10,000 from IIS as payment for "various services and activities," including her trip to Baghdad in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 2332d (Count Five); and engaging in financial transactions with the government of Iraq in relation to her trip to Iraq in violation of 50 U.S.C.§ 1701 et seq. (Count Six).

From these charges, it appears that the high-water mark of defendant's efforts to act as an unregistered agent for the Iraqi government was her delivery of a letter in January 2003 to the home of an unspecified *561 government official, in what is described even in the indictment as "an unsuccessful effort to influence United States foreign policy." (Indictment ¶3n)

...

http://www.scribd.com/doc/46046645/US-v-Susan-Lindauer-NYSD-448-F-Supp-2d-558-2006

Here are a pair of articles on her situation from "Scoop" Independent News:

American Cassandra - Susan Lindauer’s Story
Wednesday, 17 October 2007, 2:43 pm
Article: Michael Collins

Above all, you must realize that if you go ahead with this invasion, Osama bin Laden will triumph, rising from his grave or seclusion. His network will be swollen with fresh recruits, and other charismatic individuals will seek to build upon his model, multiplying those networks. And the United States will have delivered the death blow to itself. Using your own act of war, Osama and his cohort will irrevocably divide the hearts and minds of the Arab Street from moderate governments in Islamic countries that have been holding back the tide. Power to the people, what we call “democracy,” will secure the rise of fundamentalists. Susan Lindauer’s last letter to Andrew Card, January 6, 2003*

Susan Lindauer sent her eleventh and last letter on the Iraqi political situation to then Bush chief of staff Andrew Card on January 6, 2003, just two months before General Franks gave the command to invade on March 20, 2003. She’d sent ten other letters on Iraq to Card, her second cousin, over a two year period.

...

Rather than being sent back to the prison facility, she spent four months at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan. Finally, on Sept. 8, 2006 she was released by order of Judge Mukasey. He flatly denied the U.S. Attorney’s request for forced medication, noting contradictory opinions on diagnosis and poor support for the efficacy of the medication recommended by court appointed and prosecution experts.

His opinion and order implied that there was not much of case against her: “There is no indication that Lindauer ever came close to influencing anyone, or could have.” Opinion and Order, Judge Michael B. Mukasey, Sept. 6, 2006

The Judge ordered that Lindauer be released from jail. She remains free to this day. Through former U.S. Attorney Brian Schaunnessy of Washington, D.C., she is seeking a trial on the charges levied and sees that as a public forum to verify her story and clear her name.

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Here is a link to the above article: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0710/S00266.htm .

Also, here is a link to the letter that is mentioned in this article: http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/0710/LindauerToCardLetterJan2003.pdf .

American Cassandra: Susan Lindauer's Story
Thursday, 12 June 2008, 4:34 pm
Column: Michael Collins

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The psych evaluation culminated in a finding that she was incompetent to stand trial, on the grounds that she was "deluded" into believing that she had worked as a U.S. asset or would not get convicted. The coup de gras (sic: grâce) was a formal request by federal prosecutors to forcibly drug Lindauer with Haldol in order to cure her of those claims and beliefs, so that she could stand trial. She would be formally cured when she stopped declaring that witnesses would substantiate her story.

...

Lindauer: The other meetings are called "status meetings." It's a formality to show that I'm still in the system. This is the first time I have been granted the right to call witnesses into court to authenticate my story. The Prosecutor has said that I am incompetent to stand trial because I am convinced of my innocence and cannot grasp that I might be convicted. Specifically, the Prosecution has used psychiatry to argue that my belief that I worked as an Asset for the U.S. Government constitutes delusional thinking. In a bizarre legal twist, the Prosecutor has argued that since I am delusional, I should be denied the right to call witnesses to prove that I am telling the Truth. Allegedly, my belief in the existence of witnesses is a function of my delusional belief in my innocence. Is that crazy or what? Talk about Kafkaesque!

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http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0806/S00141.htm

So, it seems that the background information on her mental condition does not bear up under a cursory examination. Do you have any actual information to which you might refer or can you only cite your own opinion?

Beyond this, it is obvious that she accurately predicted some of the consequences of going to war with Iraq. In what way is she an unreliable source in the context of the OP? All those events have already occurred, and she was largely spot on.

[Blackford]

84. I further discount anything from "scoop independent news"

They have proven unreliable on multiple occasions.

You must come up with something better than that.

[xocet]

85. That is some pure BS that you are spouting now. You did not even address the post.

Enjoy your stay - however long it may be.

[Blackford]

86. I cannot address a post comprised of unreliable sources

with anything more than to express my opinion that the sources are proven to be unreliable.

Good day.

[xocet]

90. If that were truly the case, you would not be able post due to the obvious unreliability

of your own poorly substantiated opinions.

[snappyturtle]

87. I guess you didn't read the article linked in the OP.

If you have a better link it's a good idea to post it especially after the litany of accusations you made in your reply OR tell us (imho) that its just your opinion...which is fine.

I have no clue as to how you would know (source) that her psychological issues (?) still prevail.

How do you know that the prescribed drugs during her incarceration would have led her to being able to stand trial? Do you have a source?

You say she's never been medicated? Really?

You are saying that it was her mental incompetence that led to the charges being dropped.

CONSEQUENT to all of the above she is not a reliable source.
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Here is an excerpt from the linked article in the OP:

Rather than being sent back to the prison facility, she spent four months at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan. Finally, on Sept. 8, 2006 she was released by order of Judge Mukasey. He flatly denied the U.S. Attorney’s request for forced medication, noting contradictory opinions on diagnosis and poor support for the efficacy of the medication recommended by court appointed and prosecution experts.

His opinion and order implied that there was not much of case against her: “There is no indication that Lindauer ever came close to influencing anyone, or could have.” Opinion and Order, Judge Michael B. Mukasey, Sept. 6, 2006

The Judge ordered that Lindauer be released from jail. She remains free to this day. Through former U.S. Attorney Brian Schaunnessy of Washington, D.C., she is seeking a trial on the charges levied and sees that as a public forum to verify her story and clear her name.

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If you have a better source than the OP, please reply with it. When I first came to DU in 2005, someone jumped me just as I am you...sorry. I wasn't happy about it at the time but....

Check out the Youtube video I posted up thread. Now this is my opinion: After listening to this, I find her credible. Very lucid.....as for her background....Wow! I wish I had been smart enough to have attended Smith!

[Blackford]

88. There is no source related to her I can trust.

Good day.

[Coyotl]

91. No source, or no Internet source?

[Sherman A1]

70. K&R

[lumberjack_jeff]

76. Confirmation bias

The fact that this story confirms what we believe about the state of the US government does not demonstrate that they're wrong.

Maybe she is just schizophrenic.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

82. She's a fine example of the old story of the motorist...

A motorist is driving past a mental hospital when he gets a flat tire.
He goes out to change the tire and sees that one of the patients is watching him trough the fence.
Nervous, trying to work quickly, he jacks up the car, takes off the wheel, puts the lug nuts into the hubcap and steps on the hubcap, sending the lug nuts clattering into a storm drain.
The mental patient is still watching him trough the fence.
The motorist desperately looks into the storm drain, but the lug nuts are gone.
The patient is still watching.
The motorist paces back and forth, trying to think of what to do-and the patient says,
"Take one lug nut off each of the others tires, and you'll have three lug nuts on each"
"That's brilliant!!!" says the motorist, "What's someone like you doing in an asylum?"
"I'm here because I'm crazy" says the patient, "not because I'm stupid."

[geek tragedy]

94. +1000 nt

[woo me with science]

96. K&R