Snowden's Flight Plan, choice of country, itinerary revealed

[Ichingcarpenter]

meals, type of aircraft, connections will all be revealed as soon as he gets to where ever he is.

I don't expect any country involved to give the media a clue until he's there.

How stupid would that be to tell the world if he has or hasn't accepted their offer so the media would be on alert?

Just saying.

[flamingdem]

1. If it's a commercial flight over US territory then the passenger manifest will

have his name on it, unless he did some spy trick to change it.

He will have to have a passport of some kind.

If it's a private plane it will have to avoid US airspace, an expensive route.

[Ichingcarpenter]

2. flight crew

[Cleita]

3. If he was in fact in Moscow and boarded Aeroflot flight SU 150 for Havana today, according to the

flight information on their website, it hasn't arrived yet. This is the flight that changed its usual route to avoid most of Europe and fly over the Atlantic ocean also avoiding Canadian and US airspace because of a weather condition in Greenland. Many other flights did the same. However far fetched it seems now, this is his best bet if he actually ever was in Moscow. I have my doubts. The flight is supposed to land in Havana in the next hour or two. So if he arrives in Havana, maybe he will feel comfortable enough to show his face.

[Ichingcarpenter]

5. I'm saying we won't know

until he's there... or there or even over there.

I expect all the governments involved to keep a tight lip on it and are also in contact with each other. I also expect to see a three card monty play.

I guess we will see in a couple of hours.

[Cleita]

8. Thom Hartmann says the same just now. But he thinks we won't see him until he

surfaces in Caracas or wherever his safe haven is. I've been doing a little web surfing around the Moscow airport and it turns out that the terminal that this particular flight leaves from is one that caters to in transit passengers to make it easier for them to change planes without a lot of hassle. So it would be easier for him to leave than from another terminal where he would have to do more paperwork and customs activities.

I personally don't think he ever made it out of China to Moscow and all this speculation has been to distract from where he actually is.

[pinboy3niner]

4. His secret flight plan was leaked right here on DU 8 days ago

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023164458

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. SNORT!!!

After the last four days of chasing fire trucks...I NEEDED THAT!

I got over the young part... Not the dumb...lord am I sore!!!!

We are getting too old for this!

[pinboy3niner]

18. If you're eating smoke, I'm not sure you've graduated from "dumb" :)

I kid, but I've got some lung issues--including some scarring my docs found that I thought was related to working in a precision parts shop at one time, including grinding fibrous materials. But the docs said new research was pointing to a virus. Either way, smoke-eating isn't a good idea for me (and not a good idea for anyone without a respirator).

At least our SoCal fire weather is a little better for now. Hope you get a respite, and Mac in Oregon as well.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Carbon activated bandana

It helps...at a forest fire none wears SCBA's.

[flamingdem]

6. Rumor is that his dad is negotiating a surrender

Probably the best exit strategy. Putin isn't responsible that way.

[morningfog]

9. Are you going to give another prediction on when he'll be in custody?

Your previous one is nearly a week past due now.

[flamingdem]

17. What prediction was that?

?

[morningfog]

19. Here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3128098

[flamingdem]

23. OK. But if it's Daddy Snowden in the mix

I want credit since no one else here has even thought of that factor.

The news media either. They forgot about him and the news item that Putin said US and Russian security forces are in touch on the matter.

[morningfog]

24. lol. Okie dokie.

[morningfog]

25. Snowden’s father, Lonnie Snowden, is still trying to establish a “direct communications link”

As of July 9:

Snowden’s father, Lonnie Snowden, is still trying to establish a “direct communications link” with his son, his dad’s attorney Bruce Fein was quoted as telling Fox News.

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/130709/news-world/article/snowden-turns-mr-invisible

[flamingdem]

27. Interesting, but I think the only direct communication is controlled by Putin's

security people at this point.

Remember that Putin said US and Russian security forces are in contact.
That was maybe a week ago.

[morningfog]

28. So what is the source on your "rumor"? Tin foil?

[flamingdem]

29. A Spanish website nt

[flamingdem]

30. Plane landing CNN at the scene

https://twitter.com/CNN_Oppmann

[randome]

31. Snicker.

Patrick Oppmann CNN ‏@CNN_Oppmann 8 Jul
And in non-#Snowden news, Raul Castro told #Cuba to keep music down, stop urinating in public & raising pigs in cities.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"[/center][/font][hr]

[flamingdem]

32. Raul really laid into the Cubanos!

[CakeGrrl]

20. It may be late, but it may pan out if père Snowden is getting antsy.

[morningfog]

22. I've only seen that rumor from a single DUer who lacks credibility.

Daddy Snowden may very well be trying, I wonder if he is doing so with Edward's authority.

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. Vegas isn't playing your bet

your speculations so far haven't played out

you can bet on anything in Vegas and your odds aren't good.

I'm going with my hunch.

[flamingdem]

15. What was my last speculation?

?

[allin99]

7. It was Vnzla who came out and said they hadn't...

received contact from him. They coulda stayed mum.

[Ichingcarpenter]

13. Shell game

Done quite often in diplomatic intrigue. We shall see.

[morningfog]

10. It only makes sense. Why tell the world your plans?

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Just a little from refugee resettlement

I expect him to leave Moscow and just disappear from the map...new identity, the whole shebang. It is s truly for his own protection.

[Ichingcarpenter]

16. yes, but I think

He has more to say which would be hard to do with being totally off the map.

I see a possibility of landing in one country such as Venezuela and then later going to another country to get off the map.

[flamingdem]

26. On the Daddy Snowden deal speculation - evidence could be that

yesterday a concerted effort was made to push the story about how Snowden didn't release secrets about China or Russia - or to China or Russia.

This is about the charges of espionage if one is to believe the Daddy Snowden theory