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zappaman

(20,606 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:14 PM Jul 2013

California Supplies the Nation with Vegetables. You're Welcome, America.

What would America eat, if it weren't for California? A whole lot of carbs. That's according to an article published yesterday in Slate, which provides some startling numbers about the percentages of America's fruits and vegetables produced here.
According to the article, "99 percent of artichokes, 99 percent of walnuts, 97 percent of kiwis, 97 percent of plums, 95 percent of celery, 95 percent of garlic, 89 percent of cauliflower, 71 percent of spinach, and 69 percent of carrots" are produced in our great state. It also links to an Agricultural Statistical Review housed on the Mother Jones website that appears to be documenting 2009, which states that "The state produces nearly half of U.S.-grown fruits, nuts and vegetables."

The rest of the country produces a lot of corn, soybeans and wheat, as well as livestock (which consumes most of that corn and soy). Even so, California's total agricultural receipts, which totaled $38.4 billion in 2009, are by far the highest in the country and are about double the state with the second highest agriculture revenues (Texas). This is obviously due in part to our massive size compared to many other states, but it's also due to the climate and the role agriculture has played historically because of that climate.

The Slate article seems to be focusing on what America's diet and economy would be like if it lost California, which is kind of an odd premise -- what do they expect, that we're going to fall off the country in a giant earthquake? Secede from the nation and hold everyone hostage with our glorious vegetable wealth? Actually, now that I think about it, not such a bad plan. We also have lots of wine to drink, so it could be quite a party.

http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/2013/07/california_grows_americas_food.php

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California Supplies the Nation with Vegetables. You're Welcome, America. (Original Post) zappaman Jul 2013 OP
I watched Gasland II last night justiceischeap Jul 2013 #1
No kidding. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #2
I saw that too. zappaman Jul 2013 #3
I'll have to look for that. Rex Jul 2013 #7
It's HBO zappaman Jul 2013 #9
Dam I don't get premium channels. Rex Jul 2013 #10
not too sure how much nutrition it has now upaloopa Jul 2013 #4
That's why I put "healthy" in quotes. justiceischeap Jul 2013 #21
You are free to not eat our horrible, contaminated produce. kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #26
I wouldn't draw up a list of our (CA) demands just yet pinboy3niner Jul 2013 #5
Other parts of the country could grow more fruits and veggies KamaAina Jul 2013 #6
Maybe i'm biased originally being from jersey they're also the best tomatoes in the country Arcanetrance Jul 2013 #14
Everyone I know from NJ claims the best tomatoes and corn are grown there. Gormy Cuss Jul 2013 #40
People should have more pride in their local food and businesses Arcanetrance Jul 2013 #41
Eat local, use local small farms instead of using fossil fuel to ship food thousands of miles. uppityperson Jul 2013 #8
That's what we do here, the grocery store buys locally Rex Jul 2013 #12
The San Joaquin Valley is one of the wonders of the world, imo. reformist2 Jul 2013 #11
I just moved to SF last Fall from DC. displacedtexan Jul 2013 #13
I'll express my appreciation: I adore artichokes and garlic and walnuts. cali Jul 2013 #15
Do tell zappaman Jul 2013 #17
I like them that way and stuffed and with lemon butter or hollandaise or cold with cali Jul 2013 #18
Hard to argue that. zappaman Jul 2013 #23
and lobsters. they don't exactly look edible either cali Jul 2013 #27
And you live where good lobsters can be had without a mortgage. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2013 #43
I prefer avocados. Plain with mayo or in guacamole. I prefer from California but rhett o rick Jul 2013 #28
Just picked up 3 different kinds yesterday at the farmers market. zappaman Jul 2013 #29
I hope you realize how fortunate you are. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #31
I do. zappaman Jul 2013 #33
I live in Washington and we get good cherries and other fruit. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #34
Indeed zappaman Jul 2013 #35
Not familiar with Rainer cherries. We get excellent Royal Anns and Bing. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #37
Check em out zappaman Jul 2013 #38
Thanks California for the garlic! Sissyk Jul 2013 #16
A UC Berkeley group did some studies of what will happen in California with Climate Change lunatica Jul 2013 #19
Moar strawberries, please. bunnies Jul 2013 #20
and just about 100% of it is produced thanks to irrigation Spider Jerusalem Jul 2013 #22
Colorado River water is only used in SoCal KamaAina Jul 2013 #24
And climate change is reducing that: Spider Jerusalem Jul 2013 #25
rice being the most water consuming of all BainsBane Jul 2013 #45
Right you are KamaAina Jul 2013 #48
Sounds like you guys don't need to be subsidized anymore MattBaggins Jul 2013 #30
Meh.. I live in Washington State and rarely buy anything other than local... opiate69 Jul 2013 #32
I'll tell all my buddies in Idaho to stop growing things then......... thelordofhell Jul 2013 #36
"You're welcome, America"? For what, giving it away? LOL closeupready Jul 2013 #39
Think of all the food miles involved muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #42
We'd eat what's in season BainsBane Jul 2013 #44
Thank you for supporting the factory farm mentality? Uh, no NickB79 Jul 2013 #46
I trust you know that CA uses the highest amount of pesticides per acre. sbh Jul 2013 #47
And 95% of weird cults! Nevernose Jul 2013 #49

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
1. I watched Gasland II last night
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:16 PM
Jul 2013

and with the fracking taking place on the fault line, I'm concerned about California's ability to supply us with "healthy", edible food in the future.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. Dam I don't get premium channels.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jul 2013

Maybe I can find it on youtube. I SO want to take a trip to Cali, on my bucket list.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. not too sure how much nutrition it has now
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:24 PM
Jul 2013

In CA they harvest a crop. scrape the soil. Spread herbicide on it which kills everything. Then spread fertilizers and plant another crop. in a few months it is harvested and the process starts over again.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
21. That's why I put "healthy" in quotes.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:49 PM
Jul 2013

9 out of 10, they're using GMO crops plus herbicides and pesticides, etc.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
26. You are free to not eat our horrible, contaminated produce.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:09 PM
Jul 2013

Just means more for the rest of us.

People should be eating locally anyway.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
5. I wouldn't draw up a list of our (CA) demands just yet
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jul 2013

Acting rashly may force them to bring out their secret weapon--BACON.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
6. Other parts of the country could grow more fruits and veggies
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:25 PM
Jul 2013

if it weren't for agriculture policies that subsidize grain (and indirectly, meat). Campbell's Soup is located in Camden, NJ, for a reason: southern New Jersey pushes out nearly as many veggies per acre as the Central Valley. That's why NJ is the Garden State.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
40. Everyone I know from NJ claims the best tomatoes and corn are grown there.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:52 PM
Jul 2013

Whether that's true or not it's great that NJ still has so much acreage in agriculture and so much pride in its products.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
41. People should have more pride in their local food and businesses
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:55 PM
Jul 2013

I try to have a strict buy local policy with all things.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. That's what we do here, the grocery store buys locally
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jul 2013

and sales it at a farmers market. Great produce and almost all locally grown.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
11. The San Joaquin Valley is one of the wonders of the world, imo.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:28 PM
Jul 2013

When you think of just how much food comes from that little piece of the world's real estate, it's nothing short of amazing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Joaquin_Valley

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
13. I just moved to SF last Fall from DC.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:29 PM
Jul 2013

I was really glad to find fresh organic produce at such low prices here. Back in DC, we were paying twice as much for hard-as-rock produce, designed to be shipped cross country and not ripen normally.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
18. I like them that way and stuffed and with lemon butter or hollandaise or cold with
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:36 PM
Jul 2013

mayo and tons of lemon juice or cold with a garlicky vinaigrette.

Do you get the idea that I love artichokes? They're my favorite food.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
23. Hard to argue that.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:55 PM
Jul 2013

I grew them for a couple of years in the backyard...very easy to do.
I always pick up 2-3 every week at the farmers market.
Would love to know how anyone first figured out how to eat them!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
27. and lobsters. they don't exactly look edible either
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jul 2013

artichokes and lobster. now there's a meal.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
43. And you live where good lobsters can be had without a mortgage.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 06:14 PM
Jul 2013

That's the only thing I miss about the north east.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
28. I prefer avocados. Plain with mayo or in guacamole. I prefer from California but
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:12 PM
Jul 2013

major stores like to get produce from Mexico.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
29. Just picked up 3 different kinds yesterday at the farmers market.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jul 2013

Each one tastes different!
But all good!

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
38. Check em out
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:47 PM
Jul 2013

They have a distinctive color.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainier_cherry

Rainier (pronounced: /reɪˈnɪər/ - ray-near) is a cultivar of cherry. It was developed in 1952 at Washington State University by Harold Fogle, and named after Mount Rainier. It is a cross between the Bing and Van cultivars.[1]

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
19. A UC Berkeley group did some studies of what will happen in California with Climate Change
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:38 PM
Jul 2013

They said the coast which gets it's weather from the Ocean winds will pretty much keeps what is called "Mediterranean climate" but the story will be very different inland. It'll rain much less there and they predict that the forests will die and cause a massive fire at some point and that it'll end up looking like Southern California brush country. The Central Valley will turn into scrub dessert.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
20. Moar strawberries, please.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:39 PM
Jul 2013

We only get CA strawberries out here a few weeks out of the year. And Floridas berries simply dont compare. Sorry, Florida. I absolutely love the fruits grown in CA. Now, cough up the berries dammit!

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
22. and just about 100% of it is produced thanks to irrigation
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:51 PM
Jul 2013

which is pretty much doomed in the long term thanks to reservoirs silting up along the Colorado River, salts in the soil thanks to increased salinity of irrigation water, and the depletion of aquifers thanks to relying on groundwater pumping. I'd recommend Cadillac Desert by Marc Reisner as a good introduction to the issue (which far too many people are ignorant of).

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
24. Colorado River water is only used in SoCal
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 04:56 PM
Jul 2013

and most of the irrigation water used in the San Joaquin Valley comes from Sierra snowmelt runoff, not aquifers.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
48. Right you are
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jul 2013

although rice is grown in the slightly wetter Sacramento Valley, not the San Joaquin Valley, there's still not the amount of water you'd associate with a thirst crop like rice, as there is in Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas, to say nothing of Southeast Asia.

MattBaggins

(7,904 posts)
30. Sounds like you guys don't need to be subsidized anymore
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:20 PM
Jul 2013

Perhaps other states could fund local farmers with that money.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
32. Meh.. I live in Washington State and rarely buy anything other than local...
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:22 PM
Jul 2013

Not that I have anything against California or the fine folk there .. just eminently proud of my little corner of the globe too.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
39. "You're welcome, America"? For what, giving it away? LOL
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jul 2013

I'll give you thanks when you bring your prices down.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
42. Think of all the food miles involved
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 06:09 PM
Jul 2013

in shipping basic things like carrots across a continent. Someone on the east coast, start growing things, for goodness' sake.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
44. We'd eat what's in season
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 06:16 PM
Jul 2013

Which I try to do anyway. But yeah, California supplies lots of produce. Because it's shipped across the country it's never as good as locally produce, but we only have that for a few months a year.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
46. Thank you for supporting the factory farm mentality? Uh, no
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 06:43 PM
Jul 2013

Oh my God, California supplies us with our vegetables? However did we survive before the great state of California became part of the Union?

Oh, that's right, we supported small-scale local farmers and "truck gardens" that existed in a ring around cities and towns. And we ate seasonally rather than burning massive amounts of gas and oil shipping produce thousands of miles.

The only things that makes California the current vegetable capital of the US are crop subsidies and cheap fossil fuels. Once those disappear (and they will), it's sprawling vegetable factory farms, fed with synthetic chemicals and irrigated with diverted or fossil water, will wither and die out, as they should.

 

sbh

(93 posts)
47. I trust you know that CA uses the highest amount of pesticides per acre.
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jul 2013

Yeah, we get a lot of food from there, just WASH IT WELL!

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
49. And 95% of weird cults!
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jul 2013

Thank you, California, for providing this great nation with the weirdo religious cults needed to fuel our Internet conspiracies, our late night docudramas, our check-out line novel industry, our national desire for drug-fueled free-love orgies! In fact, the greatest shame of American history possibly isn't slavery or needless war or genocide, it's the fact that Joseph Smith got lost on his way to the west coast; clearly it was the promised land for wacky new age religions and Brigham Young was notoriously bad at reading maps. Hyperbole! Never! Over my cold. Dead. Body!

Other things California has given America? 100% of this great nation's Disneylands. Take that, 97% of kiwis farmers! 100% of California license plates, so vital in our television and rap video industries! And 99% of domestic production (professional) of what this country is really all about: porn. Precious, precious pornography.

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