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And she was wearing a bulletproof vest!
Anna Benson was charged with two counts of aggravated assault and battery with a gun, possession of a firearm in a felony and criminal trespass after she allegedly broke into the home the couple once shared in Smyrna, Ga., Monday. . .
Benson also stated her love of guns in the same interview.
"I have them everywhere, I love them," Benson told Stern. "Kris has a bunch, but all rifles that I don't even know what they are but I prefer my Glock and my .45."
More and video at: http://abcnews.go.com/US/pitcher-kris-bensons-wife-accused-trapping-basement-handgun/story?id=19634294#.Ud9AnvlJPzg
So much for guns keeping him safe at home. Guns are used against the owner or a member of the owners family.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check
petronius
(26,602 posts)of safety rather than going for a weapon. Glad he's OK...
Where do you read that they were his firearms she was using?
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)He told the 911 operator she had gotten into his guns. He was quite calm considering.
petronius
(26,602 posts)Later on he describes the handgun as something she had talked about before. I wonder a bit if there were earlier signs of her potential for violence, and maybe a missed opportunity for an order of protection...
(911 operators are pretty amazing; I was getting stressed just listening, and I knew how it turned out. )
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)I didn't make it up.
petronius
(26,602 posts)of (ex)-intimate-partner violence. There's a fine line between victim-blaming and analysis, but it is useful to examine circumstances and see what can be learned from an event. However, in this case, I really don't think the victim made the error that you suggest, of leaving his guns accessible (which would have been a double error, given that he also apparently has primary custody of their children). Everything I can find suggests that she brought the gun (along with the knife, baton, and taser), and based on his answers to the 911 operator there may not even have been any in the house...
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)He said "she got into my house." I thought she said "she got into my guns." I edited the OP to reflect the change.
It's a good thing for everyone involved that he was able to remain so calm and call the police.
galileoreloaded
(2,571 posts)she is lucky he didn't shoot her. not sure many would have the restraint.
play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
"she allegedly broke into her husband's Georgia home wearing a bulletproof vest and was armed with an ammunition belt, knife, Taser, hatchet and a handgun,"
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Wouldn't surprise me.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)but it's still a helluva drug.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)I was reading between the lines:
"...wearing a bulletproof vest and was armed with an ammunition belt, knife, Taser, hatchet and a handgun, according to police. "
Add that to "wealthy wife of professional athlete" and my assumption is "cocaine." Or ninja. On second thought, that's my second guess.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)even for a distraught ex who appears on reality TV.
ileus
(15,396 posts)I also bought a stock for one of my 11-48 so she'd have a 20ga to shoot skeet with.
Of course the only one(of her's) that's ever unlocked is her EDC.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)Japan has 21.7 per 100k people and the US has 12.0 - and they have much stricter gun laws than here.
Funny how people just love to throw suicides in there and blame guns. US is 34th on this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
Shame that others use suicide to try to bolster their political agenda - especially consider such things occur for a variety of reasons that we should be looking at and working to fix. But that takes real work and isn't some placebo to make people 'feel' better because they think problems will go away with more laws.
Oh...and murder rates....
UNODC murder rates most recent year (full table here)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Like entering a thread just to push the gun nut agenda. Who would do that? Oh, you.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)others like to counter balance with more clear headed facts.
I don't own a gun, not in the NRA, but just like other topics here when I see BS being peddled I like to speak up.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)that's disgusting. As much as you think they are inconsequential, human life has value. There is no equivalence between life and killing. Guns are designed to kill. To pretend otherwise is nonsense. The fact is you simply do not care. Gun nuts value guns over human life. That's what it comes down to. Pretending otherwise is bullshit.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)When less than 1% of people who own them harm others. You want more laws (instead of putting up more money to enforce the ones we have). I am all for laws that keep guns out of the hands of wackos (and am all for states having background checks).
We have laws against stealing - but people still do it. So we have laws to punish those who misuse tools (like crowbars) and call them burglar tools but we don't look to restrict people from owning them (or pressure cookers).
Most people do no harm with guns. The ones that do, punish them.
We should be addressing the causes - alcohol, greed, poverty, drugs, etc - not the tools.
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)or those human lives are worth mentioning. Yes, you find that odd. That really says everything.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)Given the stigma against suicide in the US, and the reluctance of life insurance companies to pay in the case of a suicide, I don't think the official statistics tell the whole story.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)She says he only has rifles and that she loves her glock.
My kinda women except for the psycho part. lol!
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)She removed the handgun from her purse.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/9464114/anna-benson-estranged-wife-kris-benson-arrested-multiple-charges
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2013/07/09/anna-benson-arrested/2504295/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/kris-benson-details-anna-invasion-911-article-1.1394956#ixzz2Yn8M2OnO
They were in the middle of a divorce and she was recently kicked out of the home:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/curves_not_all_that_wicked_v3SL7Bb35qiUkgrbbfka7I
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)He says "she got into my house." I thought he said "she got into my guns."
pipoman
(16,038 posts)for the motherjones statement..? Like a link to some government statistic showing how many "self-defense in the home" occurs annually..the idiotic link on the mj article goes to "justifiable homicide by private citizen" numbers and some silly soul conflated that, somehow, into "every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home"..complete fabrication that statement is..
" For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home."
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)So you can explore it yourself. This isn't kindergarten.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)It leads to another link. A study. So let's look at it:
Abstract
OBJECTIVE: Determine the relative frequency with which guns in the home are used to injure or kill in self-defense, compared with the number of times these weapons are involved in an unintentional injury, suicide attempt, or criminal assault or homicide.
-- Well, I am guessing that such is true since people who own guns tend to keep them in their home (where else would they??). So yes, if someone kills someone with a gun chances are they, at some point, kept them at home. Duh.
RESULTS: During the study interval (12 months in Memphis, 18 months in Seattle, and Galveston) 626 shootings occurred in or around a residence. This total included 54 unintentional shootings, 118 attempted or completed suicides, and 438 assaults/homicides. Thirteen shootings were legally justifiable or an act of self-defense, including three that involved law enforcement officers acting in the line of duty. For every time a gun in the home was used in a self-defense or legally justifiable shooting, there were four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides.
Memphis: 652,000 people
Seattle: 621,000 people
Galveston: 48,000
1,321,000 people
avg 88.8 per 100 people total guns (and let's divide by 3 saying avg person owns 3) = 352,266 gun owners
Works out to 0.17% of gun owners (who probably all keep them at home). Which is about the national avg as well (now if we did it by total number of guns, since each of those evil guns is just waiting to shoot someone, that percent drops even further).
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Is that your argument? Those people aren't worrying about?
For you this is about guns. For me it's human life. No one ever said the majority of gun owners killed people. Killers, however, use guns as the most efficient method of killing. Guns also kill toddlers, and toddlers kill with guns. But those 100 children killed in the past couple of months isn't a large enough percentage of totals guns to worry you. Evidently, we would have to have hundreds of millions of deaths a year for you to consider it significant. Even then you'd find an excuse why those deaths aren't important. You care a great deal for guns. I instead care about the people who are killed. Everyone makes their choices in life.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)anecdotal occurrences over actual statistics is usually a no go..
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Because all of those studies provide them. The Straight Story doesn't believe those deaths are meaningful because they don't involve the majority of guns. Do you feel the same way?
If you're interested in actual data, will you call your congressperson and senators to ask them to lift the ban on federally funded research on firearms?
pipoman
(16,038 posts)just that they don't mean what you like to pretend they mean..
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)Mother Jones says they do. What do you think they mean? How many people have to die before you think it's significant?
BainsBane
(53,035 posts)That is precisely what Mother Jones says.