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madashelltoo

(1,698 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:32 PM Jul 2013

Zimmerman family extremely smug during trial.

The father (ret. judge) had a haughty expression that irked the living shit out of me. The wife looked like this happens everyday. I really couldn't see mother. And, where was run his mouth a mile minute brother? This is a family that definitely feels privileged.

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Zimmerman family extremely smug during trial. (Original Post) madashelltoo Jul 2013 OP
They remind me of the Bush family. Rex Jul 2013 #1
isn't that the truth. indivisibleman Jul 2013 #26
they apparently made a very ugly statement that totally ignored the death of Martin, but hlthe2b Jul 2013 #2
i can't imagine that they're feeling too smug now.. frylock Jul 2013 #3
Is that the way it goes? YarnAddict Jul 2013 #22
I hope it's the Mitt Romney kind of smugness frazzled Jul 2013 #4
GZ reminds me of Politicalboi Jul 2013 #5
The father is a nasty piece of work. Marrah_G Jul 2013 #6
How so? naaman fletcher Jul 2013 #7
Watching him during the trial was revolting Marrah_G Jul 2013 #8
Meet George's dad Just Saying Jul 2013 #29
Ever notice... Scootaloo Jul 2013 #32
There's a real lack of empathy in the world. Just Saying Jul 2013 #46
What a total POS! nt Raine Jul 2013 #42
Horrid bastards uponit7771 Jul 2013 #43
Oh, come on. That's not fair. They're looking at their son going to prison for life....` Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #9
I don't see concern for their son. madashelltoo Jul 2013 #11
A cruel way to view a family who may lose their son for life. Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #13
'May lose their son for life' - cry me a river Hugabear Jul 2013 #18
Exactly. Now you understand. Just like the Martin family, who also lost their son. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #19
Bullshit. It is not just like that, not at all. Hugabear Jul 2013 #20
I'm just sayin'...not cool to be cruel to a defendant's family. They are not on trial. Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #21
I have seen people blaming TM's parents YarnAddict Jul 2013 #23
Very true...and wasn't Trayvon's brother and mother questioned on the stand Sheepshank Jul 2013 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #54
I heaven05 Jul 2013 #64
Really? A dead black child equals an imprisoned white adult as far as family pain goes?????? kestrel91316 Jul 2013 #30
Not trying to add any fuel ChazII Jul 2013 #49
Sometimes I see a post on DU that staggers me with its unbelievability. Scootaloo Jul 2013 #33
except that zimmerman *killed* the martins' son. after stalking him. HiPointDem Jul 2013 #37
You do know that the factoid about Zippy murdering Trayvon isn't in dispute, Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #55
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #61
Are you saying that it is possible someone else killed Trayvon? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #62
I think his focus is on the legal meaning of "murder" Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #63
Was Trayvon Martin murdered via a single gunshot wound to the heart Ruby the Liberal Jul 2013 #66
No one denies he shot and killed him. Adsos Letter Jul 2013 #68
Zimmerman is ALIVE. CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #34
you know what? CatWoman Jul 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2013 #14
I hope you're never on a criminal jury. My brother is a gun nut... Honeycombe8 Jul 2013 #15
fuck them CatWoman Jul 2013 #25
word frylock Jul 2013 #35
+1 Starry Messenger Jul 2013 #36
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #44
Did you see his dad smirk when Bernie talked about Rachel? dmr Jul 2013 #59
ohhh heaven05 Jul 2013 #65
I don't think Zimmie's family is being judged solely on Zimmies actions Sheepshank Jul 2013 #39
yep..Fuck em HipChick Jul 2013 #16
Yep. He's a sociopath or some kind of Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #17
GZ would not have to worry about this GObamaGO Jul 2013 #45
Definitely pipi_k Jul 2013 #50
Father Zimmerman was not a judge, he was a magistrate (different thing). lumpy Jul 2013 #10
What's a picadillo? Bay Boy Jul 2013 #31
The cousin that has accused George Zimmerman avebury Jul 2013 #24
+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #28
They JustAnotherGen Jul 2013 #27
I didn't realize that's who that guy was complain jane Jul 2013 #40
Here's a link to his self-serving fundraising website Nevernose Jul 2013 #41
Why must you do this? forthemiddle Jul 2013 #47
The father is right there in front of the camera acting like an an asshole Marrah_G Jul 2013 #51
Have a camera on your face non stop forthemiddle Jul 2013 #52
Pretty sure I wouldn't be smirking or laughing if my son killed a teenager Marrah_G Jul 2013 #53
You mean like the million bucks his parents have raised? Nevernose Jul 2013 #60
You are irked easily ksoze Jul 2013 #48
Nope. Not easily irked. madashelltoo Jul 2013 #56
Ah, that brother! Faux pas Jul 2013 #57
I feel sorry for the families. egduj Jul 2013 #58
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2013 #67

hlthe2b

(102,333 posts)
2. they apparently made a very ugly statement that totally ignored the death of Martin, but
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:35 PM
Jul 2013

stressed how important it was that "elements" not engage in violence with the verdict.

I have yet to ever see any statement attributed to them that expressed any regret or humanity towards the Martin family.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
3. i can't imagine that they're feeling too smug now..
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jul 2013

they probably expected the jury to reach a decision of not guilty within an hour. the longer they deliberate, the worse it will probably be for the defendant.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
22. Is that the way it goes?
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:02 PM
Jul 2013

I read this somewhere once, and can't remember whether it's quick verdict means acquittal, and prolonged deliberations mean conviction, or if it's the opposite.

I remember the OJ jury came back very fast with the acquittal, but that might just have been an anomoly.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
4. I hope it's the Mitt Romney kind of smugness
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jul 2013

So sure he was going to win; living with his own delusions and the sense of invincibility that came from those around him.

I want to see the shock on their faces if and when they lose. (Sorry, I don't like to see anyone be distressed over their child; but their child, even if convicted, will be alive. Trayvon Martin's parents will never, ever have that consolation.)

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
8. Watching him during the trial was revolting
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jul 2013

The judge could not possibly care any less that a teenage boy is dead. Nasty, nasty man.

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
29. Meet George's dad
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jul 2013
http://thinkprogress.org/media/2013/06/14/2162501/george-zimmermans-father-says-the-true-racists-are-all-african-american/?mobile=wt

Previously, Zimmerman Sr. “believed generally racism was a thing of the past.” He says that, personally, he hadn’t encountered much racism, even though his wife is Hispanic. But after his son shot and killed Trayvon Martin, however, Zimmerman learned that racism is “flourishing at the insistence of some in the African American Community.” He then goes on to list various black leaders and organizations that he believes are racist:
Congressional Black Caucus. “[A] pathetic, self-serving group of racists… advancing their purely racist agenda.” He later adds that “all members of Congress should be ashamed of the Congressional Black Caucus, as should be their constituents.” And finally: “They are truly a disgrace to all Americans.”
The NAACP. “[S]imply promotes racism and hatred for their own, primarily finical, interests” and “without prejudice and racial divide, the NAACP would simply cease to exist.”
NAACP President Benjamin Jealous. “[W]hat I would expect of a racist.”
Trayvon Martin’s funeral director. A “racial activist and former head of the local NAACP.”
Benjamin Crump, Natialie Jackson and Darrly Parks, attorneys for Travyon Martin’s family. “The scheme team.”
The National Basketball Players Association.
Black Chamber of Commerce.
National Association of Black Law Enforcement Officers.
National Black United Fund.
United Negro College Fund


What a guy!
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
32. Ever notice...
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:45 PM
Jul 2013

That it's pretty much only white people (and Bill Cosby) who think racism is "dead"? And the more privileged they are, the more likely they are to subscribe to that notion?

Easy enough to disbelieve in the existence of something that will never touch your brow, I suppose.

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
46. There's a real lack of empathy in the world.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:21 AM
Jul 2013

If it's not happening to them, it's not happening at all. Like Romney railing on the "47%" or Republicans cutting off food stamps in a Farm Bill several of them are profiting from or closing women's health clinics because of religious ideology with no regard for the (mostly young and/or poor) women it hurts.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. Oh, come on. That's not fair. They're looking at their son going to prison for life....`
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:08 PM
Jul 2013

I'm sure they're keeping it together & acting calmly as best they can, under the circumstances. Just like TM's family.

This is a very difficult time for both families.

madashelltoo

(1,698 posts)
11. I don't see concern for their son.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:25 PM
Jul 2013

Sorry. I see, "let's get this over with. A worthless peon is dead. Why the fuss?"

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
13. A cruel way to view a family who may lose their son for life.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:31 PM
Jul 2013

Just like saying the same thing about TM's family.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
18. 'May lose their son for life' - cry me a river
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jul 2013

What about the Martin family, who will NEVER see their son alive again?

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
20. Bullshit. It is not just like that, not at all.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jul 2013

Even if Zimmerman were sentenced to life in prison, his family would still be able to visit him, and they could communicate via phone calls and letters. There would still be contact. Zimmerman would still be ALIVE.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. I'm just sayin'...not cool to be cruel to a defendant's family. They are not on trial.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:55 PM
Jul 2013

Some people I'm sure think TM was partially, if not wholly, responsible for what happened. It would be silly of them to blame TM's family for his actions.

The cruelty I'm seeing in this forum lately is mind boggling. Cold, blood lust, hatred for those who aren't even accused of wrongdoing.

It's like making fun of OJ Simpson's parents because Simpson was on trial for murder. Not cool.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
23. I have seen people blaming TM's parents
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:05 PM
Jul 2013

for not "raising him right," or whatever. The more I read in comments following news articles, the more I want to vomit. We live in a sick, sick world.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
38. Very true...and wasn't Trayvon's brother and mother questioned on the stand
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:17 AM
Jul 2013

with the intent of calling the home life into question?

Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #21)

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
64. I
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:51 PM
Jul 2013

really am glad I missed all this zimpig apology bullshit for him and his fucking family.. Trayvon was doing nothing wrong. Zpig cold, blood lust killed a kid because he was an 'other'. You need to get a clue. There .......forget it, I'm getting emotional, I will back off now before I hurt someones feelings and then get an alert.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
30. Really? A dead black child equals an imprisoned white adult as far as family pain goes??????
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:22 PM
Jul 2013

Some people really do wear their contempt for brown people on their sleeve. I just wouldn't expect it of you.

ChazII

(6,205 posts)
49. Not trying to add any fuel
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:45 AM
Jul 2013

to a fire, but isn't GZ a white-Hispanic? This is where I get confused. You are right though, a dead child is a loss that cannot be compared or equaled to an adult being imprisoned. The death of a child is a far great loss.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
33. Sometimes I see a post on DU that staggers me with its unbelievability.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:49 PM
Jul 2013

I'm sorry, what the fuck kind of drugs are you injecting, exactly? That you are comparing the loss of a family whose child was gunned down, to the potential that the killer of that child may face prison time being a "loss" to his family?

Is this performance art, or are you really, really making this argument?

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
37. except that zimmerman *killed* the martins' son. after stalking him.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:14 AM
Jul 2013

yeah, other than that, it's so similar. no doubt the parents will go out & commiserate over beers after the trial.

jesus f. christ.

Response to Ruby the Liberal (Reply #55)

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
66. Was Trayvon Martin murdered via a single gunshot wound to the heart
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 08:55 PM
Jul 2013

by George Zimmerman?

Because not even Zippy denies that.

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
68. No one denies he shot and killed him.
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:45 AM
Jul 2013

Whether or not it fit the legal definition of Murder is what was being decided in Florida. I think that's what the poster was referring to.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
34. Zimmerman is ALIVE.
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jul 2013

His family can visit him. He is not lost. They can see him whenever they want.

Trayvon Martin has been lost. His family and friends will never see him again.

You don't see the difference?

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
12. you know what?
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:28 PM
Jul 2013

I'm of the opinion that this was a long time coming.

His parents and his wife saw the warning signs.

And they excused, rationalized and enabled his antisocial behavior every step of the way.

Fuck all of them.

Response to CatWoman (Reply #12)

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. I hope you're never on a criminal jury. My brother is a gun nut...
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:32 PM
Jul 2013

there is really not much you can do about someone like that. They don't listen to anyone, and they're even bullies within the family.

They are not on trial.

Uncool to get down on the families.

dmr

(28,349 posts)
59. Did you see his dad smirk when Bernie talked about Rachel?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:18 PM
Jul 2013

Zimmerman's dad was smirking when de la Rionda started talking about Rachel.


"Rachel Jeantel may not be sophisticated, but she is a human being."

"Her colorful language doesn't make her less credible."

“A witness will not be judged on the color of her personality but by the content of her testimony,”


To me, that smirk, or laugh was offensive. Belittling. It showed me how this family devalues any one other than those they deem worthy. He couldn't even hide his racism in open court. If I were a juror, and saw that - it would definitely factor in to my decision.

But, hey, it's "God's will."
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
39. I don't think Zimmie's family is being judged solely on Zimmies actions
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 02:19 AM
Jul 2013

their own POV's and actions and demeanor is being noticed....the tirial and court simply created the venue for it's display.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
17. Yep. He's a sociopath or some kind of
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:32 PM
Jul 2013

path. Too many stories of violence and inappropriate behavior. The Hannity interview shows that clearly and his behavior in the court. He suffers from delusions, thinks he's an Avenger. He was going to snap at some point - unfortunately Trahyvon was the target.

GObamaGO

(665 posts)
45. GZ would not have to worry about this
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:00 AM
Jul 2013

Had he not disobeyed instructions from the 911 operator and MURDERED Trayvon Martin.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
10. Father Zimmerman was not a judge, he was a magistrate (different thing).
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 08:10 PM
Jul 2013

Mother Zimmerman is probably used to George's piccadillos and legal problems. George had plenty of
times he's had to defend his rash actions.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
24. The cousin that has accused George Zimmerman
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:07 PM
Jul 2013

of molesting her has stated that George's mother is racist big time. Not a surprise.

JustAnotherGen

(31,856 posts)
27. They
Fri Jul 12, 2013, 09:18 PM
Jul 2013

Can always visit their son in prison. And he's not going away for the rest of his life. Just long enough for an attitude adjustment.

And Trayvon's parents only get to see their son's headstone.

Of course they are smug - win or lose - their son is still living and breathing.

complain jane

(4,302 posts)
40. I didn't realize that's who that guy was
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:02 AM
Jul 2013

Was watching yesterday and saw what I now know is Zimmerman's father. Yes - totally smug! Rolling his eyes and making faces while the prosecution spoke.

A very special kind of asshole. My heart goes out to Martin's parents for enduring all of this. The death of their son, his killer's statement that he has no remorse, the smugness of his murderer's family.

I don't think I'd be able to do it.

forthemiddle

(1,381 posts)
47. Why must you do this?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:34 AM
Jul 2013

The family wasn't there the night George killed Trayvon. They aren't on trial.
I bet you a million bucks that they would rather be ANYWHERE else than in the courtroom watching their family member fight for his freedom.
This post is no better than those on other sites blaming Trayvons parents for their sons shortcomings. Remember in the end he was no angel either. That doesn't mean he should have been killed, nor should it even come into the conversation, but neither should George Zimmermans family, who in the end are giving their family member support. Just as I am sure you would if it was your son (unless you are a heartless human being).

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
51. The father is right there in front of the camera acting like an an asshole
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:57 AM
Jul 2013

He isn't acting like a concerned father. He is acting like a smarmy little asshole, making faces, rolling his eyes, laughing. He is also a racist and has made that pretty clear in his own words.

forthemiddle

(1,381 posts)
52. Have a camera on your face non stop
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:04 PM
Jul 2013

and your will probably not look extremely attractive either.

I just HATE people picking on others when they had nothing to do with the original charges. I also don't believe in blaming parents for the crimes of their children.

Put up a post about how Trayvons family acted or looked, and I would have criticized that also.

I hope your children are never on trial for anything because I am sure the supporters of the other side would be petty too.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
60. You mean like the million bucks his parents have raised?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:24 PM
Jul 2013

Claiming that he (dad) is impoverished, even though he's retired with two different full pensions. Jail house recordings show that much of the supporter's funds given for his defense went to pay off massive credit card bills.

If my kid was accused of murder, I probably wouldn't give near daily press conferences, either, nor would I troll every right wing media outlet on Earth looking for donations.

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
48. You are irked easily
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:38 AM
Jul 2013

The father was not allowed into the trial until after he testified,as he was to be called as a witness - you only had to be irked for a few days. Get a grip.

Faux pas

(14,689 posts)
57. Ah, that brother!
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:49 PM
Jul 2013

All of his 'press' conferences seemed really fishy to me. Death threats, living in hiding? Sounded like a truck load of trumped up BS. Another way to make blacks look bad. Revolting bunch of asses those zimmerman's.

egduj

(805 posts)
58. I feel sorry for the families.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:51 PM
Jul 2013

It hurts to imagine how I'd feel or act if I thought my son was shot down unnecessarily or facing life in prison for doing something that he thought couldn't be avoided.

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