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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:09 AM Jul 2013

Wanna know why I think there's no New New Deal for the 21st Century?

One of the things I most happily anticipated in 2009 was a government spending program that would create jobs and tackle the big problems facing the nation, from infrastructure like a new green power grid to de-polluting the environment. What's more, Government spending on new programs would mean new jobs at government pay grades, improving the quality of life of the nation's middle class.

Keynesian economics, traditional FDR Democratic New Deal approach, would also mean there'd be fewer people available to fight for the low-pay service jobs the "job creators" in the private sector. To compete with the government for workers in such an economic climate would require the rich and the corporations they own to pay higher wages. So, the likes of Wall Street and their servants in Washington hated the idea.

It used to be the federal government had to have a certain percentage of jobs go to unions, women and minority-owned business, and others who historically were trampled under hoof in the rush to the federal money trough. I'm not sure if this is still the law, SCROTUS being the 5-4 Scalia cesspool that it is.

But the biggest reason for no New New Deal for the 21st Century, IMFO, is this: If people didn't have to worry about living paycheck to paycheck, if people were sure their families had a home, enough to eat, and the economic security for a sound future, like college and a decent retirement, then the people would have time to wonder more about why the government works so hard to help the rich and does so little -- relatively -- to help the middle class and poor. They'd also find more time to wonder why the government always has money for war and the companies the warmongers own.

Even in our time, where the greatest amount of wealth in human history has been amassed, that would be a problem for those who like things as they are. A New New Deal might interrupt the status quo, where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

So. What's the ad say? "Stay thirsty, my Friends!"



Stay hungry, too.

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Wanna know why I think there's no New New Deal for the 21st Century? (Original Post) Octafish Jul 2013 OP
K & R because, apparently, our welfare is too inconvenient even for US to talk about! robertpaulsen Jul 2013 #1
Prescott S Bush, Jr., founded the US-China Chamber of Commerce... Octafish Jul 2013 #4
Great links! robertpaulsen Jul 2013 #7
Big K&R. Don't ever ask the big questions about our corporate government. chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #2
Five years into a new kind of Democratic administration. Octafish Jul 2013 #5
Methinks you nailed it. woo me with science Jul 2013 #3
Y'all need to READ this, and THINK. nt chimpymustgo Jul 2013 #6

robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
1. K & R because, apparently, our welfare is too inconvenient even for US to talk about!
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:14 PM
Jul 2013


If they actually gave us a New New Deal, we might also be focused to ask why whenever the MIC destabilizes countries, it's never the countries we outsource our jobs to. Yet, once destabilized and the war machine has had their way, then that country gets our jobs outsourced there, at a fraction of the cost to multi-national corporations! Just ask Vietnam, they'll tell you what a great New Deal they've got!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. Prescott S Bush, Jr., founded the US-China Chamber of Commerce...
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:37 PM
Jul 2013

...Middle Kingdom Rainmakers, they call their BFEE chums. Oh So Social, that made money for the Right People.

China blocks New York Times website after story on leader's family wealth

Excellent observation, yours, robertpaulsen. That is an analysis I had not seen vocalized so clearly. Now that I have read it, I can see where that TPP is really heading.

robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
7. Great links!
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 04:30 PM
Jul 2013

"You are our old friends," sounds typical of Deng and Poppy. Read this letter from Poppy to Deng just 16 days after the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Look how many times Poppy whines about fixing their "relationship" versus genuine concern for justice for the murdered protesters. He sounds downright regretful when he says, "the actions that I took as President of the United States could not be avoided." As though rhetoric were an action; Poppy never considered lasting sanctions at all.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. Five years into a new kind of Democratic administration.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:32 PM
Jul 2013

"I’ve never believed that government’s role is to create jobs or prosperity." -- President Barack Obama, Sept. 8, 2010, Parma, Ohio.

What the heck? It's not like there's nothing to do. Take energy: For the cost of Iraq War, we could've built a new National 100% Renewable Clean Energy Grid. I kid you not:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/for-the-price-of-the-iraq-war-the-u-s-could-have-a-100-renewable-power-system/5330881

Once completed, that would take our reliance on Saudi roils out of the equation faster than you can say Yemeni drone strike three times fast.

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