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arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:05 PM Jul 2013

Der Spiegel: Snowden gave out information that could endanger the lives of NSA workers

"SPIEGEL has decided not to publish details it has seen about secret operations that could endanger the lives of NSA workers."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/secret-documents-nsa-targeted-germany-and-eu-buildings-a-908609-3.html

So basically this guy is now betraying US agents in the field by giving their names to foreign entities. And he is cloaking all of this with concern for the privacy of American citizens. Wow, he just keeps on adding to his list of crimes. He has pretty much assured that he will spend the rest of his life in a federal supermax prison.

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Der Spiegel: Snowden gave out information that could endanger the lives of NSA workers (Original Post) arely staircase Jul 2013 OP
Not finding your quote in the article you linked to. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #1
It's Der Spiegel's opinion that some of the information they received Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #2
I applaud them for being responsible about that. arely staircase Jul 2013 #5
First Page, 11th paragraph arely staircase Jul 2013 #3
Soooo, bring the spies home out of dangers way. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #4
So the US should be the first country in the history of the world to arely staircase Jul 2013 #6
Works for me. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #7
That is a very interesting and unique opinion nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #10
So, if espionage is OK with you, why pursue Snowden for espionage? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #11
Because he is committing it against the United States. nt arely staircase Jul 2013 #12
"bring the spies home" Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #8
Yes. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #9
What about other countries that spy such as China, Russia, France, Israel, UK etc... Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #14
Yes. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #15
What about counter intelligence? Cali_Democrat Jul 2013 #16
Are you actually worried about that happening? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2013 #17
Perhaps you could render an opinion on the rest of the paragraph containing that quote too... Pholus Jul 2013 #13
I don't think he had the right to start a "global debate" about US intel activities abroad arely staircase Jul 2013 #19
Way to obfuscate through cherry picking! hootinholler Jul 2013 #18
but to the issue at hand arely staircase Jul 2013 #20
I don't know that he did or didn't hootinholler Jul 2013 #23
so you believe der speigal's reporting in that regard is wrong? arely staircase Jul 2013 #24
Anything Der Spiegel has see is not likely secret any more, whether they published or not FarCenter Jul 2013 #21
oh I assume anything snowden stole and took to Russia arely staircase Jul 2013 #22
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
2. It's Der Spiegel's opinion that some of the information they received
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:21 PM
Jul 2013

could endanger the lives of NSA workers, so they decided not to publish.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
3. First Page, 11th paragraph
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:21 PM
Jul 2013
Unimaginable Dimensions

SPIEGEL has decided not to publish details it has seen about secret operations that could endanger the lives of NSA workers. Nor is it publishing the related internal code words. However, this does not apply to information about the general surveillance of communications. They don't endanger any human lives -- they simply describe a system whose dimensions go beyond the imaginable. This kind of global debate is actually precisely what Snowden intended and what motivated his breach of secrecy. "The public needs to decide whether these policies are right or wrong," he says.
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
8. "bring the spies home"
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:24 PM
Jul 2013

This is an interesting take. Is it your opinion that the United States should not engage in spying overseas?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
14. What about other countries that spy such as China, Russia, France, Israel, UK etc...
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:46 PM
Jul 2013

What should the US about that? Pull all spies from overseas and hope other countries do the same thing?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
16. What about counter intelligence?
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:02 PM
Jul 2013

Should the FBI still conduct counter intelligence, or should that be stopped as well?

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
13. Perhaps you could render an opinion on the rest of the paragraph containing that quote too...
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 01:46 PM
Jul 2013
This kind of global debate is actually precisely what Snowden intended and what motivated his breach of secrecy. "The public needs to decide whether these policies are right or wrong," he says.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
19. I don't think he had the right to start a "global debate" about US intel activities abroad
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 03:57 PM
Jul 2013

by releasing secret information that he stole. I think that makes him a traitor to his country. Releasing the FISA court document on domestic phone metadata is much easier to defend. But his little "global debate" is precisely why he needs to be brought to justice.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
23. I don't know that he did or didn't
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 08:26 PM
Jul 2013

Neither did you, but you have convicted him in your mind and are cherry picking stuff to attack him.

I prefer reality based outrage, isn't that enough for you?

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
24. so you believe der speigal's reporting in that regard is wrong?
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 10:38 PM
Jul 2013

Do you also dismiss the rest of the story, about the massive US spying? Or are you cherrypicking yourself.

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