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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChris Matthews sticks up for Pat Buchaanan
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/chris-matthews-says-hell-miss-pat-buchananAs happy as most of us are to see Pat Buchanan finally formally get the boot from MSNBC, it seems there's at least one person there that's going to miss the old bigot; Chris Matthews. During his "Let Me Finish" segment at the end of this Friday's show, Matthews praised Buchanan for his loyalty to his friends and to Richard Nixon.rn
He also praised Buchanan for being loyal to his "heritage" or in other words, those magical days back in the 1950's when we still had segregated schools and prior to the Civil Rights movement that was the fantasy that exists in Matthews and Buchanan's minds. This was just really bizarre to watch.
I guess Chris is just sad he won't have Pat around any longer to treat us to more interviews like whether Sonia Sotomayor is a "militant liberal Latina", or for someone to defend Rush Limbaugh's racist rants, or to claim that the President has a "messiah complex", or to gush and giggle with him over the "dazzling rodeo queens" Palin and Bachmann.
video and transcript at link....
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)Now MSNBC will hire a Sarah Palin or a Rick Santorum and elevate the Tea Party.
We will regret running Pat off.
madokie
(51,076 posts)RZM
(8,556 posts)Though I'm not at all surprised. Lots of people are sticking up for him, including some people you might not expect to do so.
Here's a thread on it from yesterday:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002323426
BootinUp
(47,156 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)when African Americans were only ten percent of the population?
He's probably happy he can wear his Grand Wizard KKK garb openly now.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)"The Fuhrer was sweet, the Fuhrer was kind, the Fuhrer was good."
Spazito
(50,349 posts)it must have some pretty hideous views over and above the ones he has been quite happy to give while on MSNBC, views I found appalling beyond belief. Why else would they now oust him, it couldn't be because he suddenly went public with his racist garbage because it has always been there and MSNBC was content to keep him.
I am glad he is gone and think he it should have happened long ago.
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)and screamed at both the jackasses on my screen.
They are both 2 of a kind and one and the same.
libinnyandia
(1,374 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)I'm glad they repeat it at 5pm and 7pm.
I think Chris Mathews does a great job. Very knowledgeable.
I also watch his Sunday morning talk show. "Tell me something I don't know?"
_ed_
(1,734 posts)is hosted by a Bush voter who said this:
"MATTHEWS: We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like (former President Bill) Clinton or even like (former Democratic presidential candidates Michael) Dukakis or (Walter) Mondale, all those guys, (George) McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits. We don't want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a Putin. Can you imagine Putin getting elected here? We want a guy as president."
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)But after a long day at work or school, when you come home and you have just 1 hour to get caught up on all of the political news you missed during the day, HardBall would be my first choice.
The Ed Show is great. I watch it all the time. I honestly think its getting better. And I find I am watching it more often. When Ed first started it seemed like his persona was to much of a schtick for me. But I am liking it more and more.
The Rachel Maddow show is fantastic. She is the smartest person on TV. But sometimes her show is more issues or stories oriented instead of just the "who's up/who's down" political news of the day.
The Lawrence O'Donnell show is my second favorite political show in primetime. I believe there is no better predictor of future events than LO. Like Mathews, his show is more oriented to giving me the political news of the day, straight forward with good analysis. It might even be my favorite but its on late. 7pm works better for my schedule than 10pm. I wish it were on Fridays.
_ed_
(1,734 posts)all I need to know about Chris Matthews.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)he's stating his observations on what he thinks Americans like. Part of that I'd agree with...Americans do like a leader who acts like a leader, confident, secure, firmly planted feet. The smart guys, like Clinton and Obama, ARE complicated. They make take longer to make decisions because they actually gather facts and THINK about it.
Matthews says some screwy things. Like that time he said seeing Obama gives him a tingle up his leg. Weird.
I don't think he voted for Bush. Did he say he did?
But he gets the best guests. He's a little fairer in his interviews. Republicans and Independents often won't go on Maddow, O'Donnell, or Sharpton because of how they're treated. But they'll go on Hardball....sometimes. And Tweety is an expert at not letting them sit there and spout their talking points.
He was, IMO, most responsible from banishing the birthers from mainstream media. He had one of those guys on his show. He grilled him like they'd never been grilled before, then he held up Obama's birth certificate and kept asking the birther why he thought that document from Hawaii wasn't legit. The guy kept trying to say something else, but Tweety didn't let him, repeating his question over and over. Finally, he just told the guy, "You know, this is crazy! This birther stuff, you guys...it's just crazy!" I never saw a birther on the political talk shows in prime time again. Still haven't. Well, except for Trump.
_ed_
(1,734 posts)and google his vote in 2000. Your man voted for Bush. Some Democrat! He voted Bush over Gore. Are you fucking kidding me?
Does his sexism bother you? How about his recent defense of the Catholic Bishops about this nonsense contraception issue?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)It's the things he observed that you're upset about. I agree with most of what he said he's observed...I've observed it, too. Statistics bear it out, as well. (The taller man usu. wins the Presidency, the lower or more authoritative voice, etc. Not always, but usually.)
I did Google his vote, and yeah, it seems he did cross party lines & vote for Bush. That's disappointing. But not unforgiveable. I voted for Gore, but I couldn't help but notice that it wasn't a well run campaign, and Gore messed up (or his handlers). So I can sort of understand voting for Bush in 2000....sort of. If you didn't know Bush (I live in TX, so I knew, sort of, what Bush was like). He didn't vote for Bush in 2004, though. That would've been mind boggling and stupid.
Tweety has come around on the contraception thing with the Catholics. Tweety is Catholic. I understand it, because although I'm not Catholic, at first I felt the same way. As Tweety said about complicated people, sometimes it takes a while to make a decision, since you have to gather facts and think about things. BTW, he never said he agreed with the Catholic leaders' position...just that he was on the fence about it, and he understood their concerns and was perplexed by Obama's decision to do that during an election year. I felt the same way. I have come around to understanding the decision, though, now that I've learned more about it. I still disagree with providing free birth control, though. It's not for a medical condition, and it will cause ins. premiums to go up.
The good news about the contraception thing, though, is that I, a woman in her 50's looking for a job, this makes me more attractive to potential employers because I won't have those monthly birth control claims.
_ed_
(1,734 posts)He's just a Beltway hack who voted Bush in 2000 with no valuable insights into politics other than emotional crap.
Does this bother you as a woman?
"MATTHEWS: We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like (former President Bill) Clinton or even like (former Democratic presidential candidates Michael) Dukakis or (Walter) Mondale, all those guys, (George) McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits. We don't want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a Putin. Can you imagine Putin getting elected here? We want a guy as president."
libinnyandia
(1,374 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)True, I like the side they're on. But Hardball has more interesting guests incl. a spattering of Republicans. Republicans pretty much won't go on the other three because, as I've seen, they're not given a chance to answer, are talked "at" by the hosts, and the interviewers are sometimes rude to them. Larry, especially. Of the three, Sharpton is fairer in his interviews.
I like to watch more of a balance in the discussion. A real discussion with opposing viewpoints sometimes.
aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)It is a great barometer to find out what is going on in a world without a left slant or FOX news propaganda.
_ed_
(1,734 posts)Did you realize that Matthews voted for Bush in 2000?
Here's the host of "the best political talk show on TV" in 2003 talking about GW Bush:
"MATTHEWS: We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like (former President Bill) Clinton or even like (former Democratic presidential candidates Michael) Dukakis or (Walter) Mondale, all those guys, (George) McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits. We don't want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a Putin. Can you imagine Putin getting elected here? We want a guy as president."
This guy represents the worst of Beltway "conventional wisdom." I think he seems drunk half the time. Why is he always drooling on air and slurring his speech? Why can't he pronounce the word "America?"
He just defended his racist buddy Pat Buchanan. Like I said, the worst the Beltway has to offer.
libinnyandia
(1,374 posts)mostly just casual statements, which I find disturbing.
_ed_
(1,734 posts)He just traffics in other peoples' Beltway conventional wisdom.
RZM
(8,556 posts)I'm not a big fan of Tweety, mind you. But I've never heard him articulate anything like what Buchanan does.
The main argument of Buchanan's latest book is that immigration and birthrates are eroding the white share of the population and that has long-term consequences for just about every aspect of American life. He believes that immigration should be reduced/halted and that the current population of roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants should not be made citizens.
Tweety, on the the other hand, specifically endorsed making the entire undocumented population citizens in one of his commercial-break vignettes from last year. That's pretty much the opposite of what Buchanan argues.
The tie here - and this goes for many other Buchanan defenders in the media - is that of colleagues and co-workers. Both are pundits and have probably known each other for years. While I know nothing about Buchanan's interactions with friends and colleagues, it seems that many members of the 'in crowd' in the media, including some liberals, got along with him well. Contrast that with the Olbermann thing last year, when you didn't hear much from the rest of the pundit class at all.
I think that's one of the open secrets of that world. People who rail against each other over politics on the airwaves sometimes leave the studio and go have drinks together right after.
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)He couldn't shut his goddamn mouth for a minute to let her even speak with respect to the issue of the all-male panel at Issa's Inquisition hearing.
He and Buchanan are both Irish Catholics and Tweety let his Catholicism get in the way the past couple weeks as he went on attack mode against the President before the so-called "compromise" was announced.
His love affair with Kennedy is as toxic as Buchanan's love affair with Nixon and Reagan. But over the years, they both denounced African Americans who profess their own love affair with Barack Obama.
The ARE 2 sides of the same damn coin, both hypocrites and paternalistic.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)You can fight with each other passionately on air about your beliefs but afterwards its completely different in 99% of the cases.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,806 posts)JitterbugPerfume
(18,183 posts)Is a disgrace
_ed_
(1,734 posts)On the Comcast corporation's media arm
nanabugg
(2,198 posts)sadbear
(4,340 posts)His rosaries are showing.
_ed_
(1,734 posts)Same as it ever was.
tnvoter
(257 posts)I was a registered Republican until Buchanan made his hateful keynote at the 1992 GOP convention. He's a recalcitrant bigot. Through and through.
_ed_
(1,734 posts)What else would you expect but bullshit Beltway conventional wisdom nonsense. Chris Matthews just said that it's a virtue to be loyal to a criminal and be a fucking racist. People think this is liberal?
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)by an actor/bullshit artists. We love bullshit artists... look at hollywood!