Why can you predict someone's support for Zimmerman by their stance on gun control?

[CreekDog]

This is almost a perfect correlation.

Why?

[Skittles]

1. because Zimmerman, like Nugent, is a poster boy for gun nut cowards

[muntrv]

33. ....

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/14/1223459/-A-Cop-s-take-on-the-Verdict?detail=email

[darkangel218]

2. I was asking the same question the other day.

And I quit the rkba group because of that.

[premium]

3. I'm a big supporter of the 2A,

but I've always said that I believed that Zimmerman was guilty of Manslaughter, so how does that square with your thread?

[JI7]

4. add in race also

[Just Saying]

5. Why indeed.

If he's the example of a responsible gun owner then we need much stricter gun laws.

I think at least some of them don't want anyone questioning who they choose to shoot. Sick ain't it?

[Jackpine Radical]

6. How interesting--

Can you supply data for that observation? And was the calculation accomplished with biserial methods, a Pearsonian coefficient, or something like Spearman's Rho?

[Tuesday Afternoon]

23. broadbrush

he paints with it.

[Nye Bevan]

24. Wow.

Do you have a license for those impressive statistical tools?

[Jackpine Radical]

26. CCSPSS

(Concealed Carry of a Statistics Package for the Social Sciences)

[JI7]

9. i thought this when it first came out, how they did not release the pics for a long time

how he didn't go to the hospital after the shooting and ended up going to some regular doctor he already knew from before .

it's all BS.

[GreenStormCloud]

12. Dr. DiMaio has said differently.

Considering that he is the world's foremost forensic pathologist, I will go with what he says.

[darkangel218]

17. lmao!!!

You mean the paid "expert" who charges $400 an hour? No shit!!

[GreenStormCloud]

31. Do you dispute his credentials?

Experts witnesses in trials, whether testifying for the prosecution or defense are paid, unless they are on staff, such as Dr. Bao. That he charges does not mean that he lies. Obviously you don't like what he says. Creationists didn't like what Dr. Gould said about evolution either. Forensic pathology has no politics, it is what it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Di_Maio

Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio is an American pathologist and a nationally renowned expert on the subject of gunshot wounds.[1][2] Di Maio is a board-certified anatomical, clinical and forensic pathologist, and a private forensic pathology consultant.[3] He attended St. John's University and the State University of New York (SUNY), and received postgraduate training at Duke University, SUNY, and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner of Maryland.[4]

Di Maio is a veteran of the U.S. Army Medical Corps, and served as chief medical examiner of San Antonio, Texas until 2006, when he retired; Di Maio has more than 40 years of experience as a forensic pathologist.[4][5] He has been editor-in-chief of the Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology, and a professor of the Department of Pathology at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio.[4] Di Maio is a fellow of the National Association of Medical Examiners (NAME) and the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, and in 2011 he was appointed to the Texas Forensic Science Commission by Governor Rick Perry.[3][6]

Di Maio has authored or co-authored four books and numerous articles related to forensic pathology, and has won several awards for his work, including the Outstanding Service Award from the National Association of Medical Examiners.

[darkangel218]

32. He is paid to say whatever.

Even a nurse can tell you zimmy was not severely injured , and his slight injuries don't coraborate his statements ( lies)

[GreenStormCloud]

34. Self defense isn't about the injuries you have sustained.

It is about the injuries that you are in fear of sustaining.

As another poster put it, consider a man is swinging an axe at your head with the obvious intention of killing you. He misses his first swing. You have no injuries. By your standard, you can't shoot as you have no injuries. By the law, you can shoot because you are afraid that he will connect with his next swing.

That is the way self-defense law works. If you shoot someone because of injuries that you have already sustained, no matter how serious, then that is revenge and is illegal. You shoot because you are afraid of future injuries and don't want to sustain them.

Dr. Di Maio is not paid to lie. If he is ever caught lying then he would lose his ability to be an expert witness. He is paid to give his expert opinion on gunshot wounds.

[libodem]

8. He is probably getting his gun back, too

It makes me sick.

[NYC_SKP]

10. Well this is just not something I've observed.

But then I don't know anyone who supports Zimmerman.

Do you?

[darkangel218]

11. There have been lots and lots of posts on DU from gungeoneers defending zimmy

And his not guilty verdict.

I'm surprised you missed them.

[NYC_SKP]

16. First, there are only four or five members who I associate with the RKBA group.

And none of them have defended Zimmerman.

And among all DU members, I've only seen people say that they believe the outcome was reasonably given the poor police work and evidence, and others who say that it's just as likely that GZ was the one crying help and not TM.

Neither position, IMHO, represents 'defending' Zimmerman. A lot of people would like to associate 2A supporters with GZ fans, but I just don't see it and I've been here a long time.

[darkangel218]

19. Lol ok. I must have been really unlucky to encounter them then.

[PD Turk]

13. I'm a gun owner

I support the use of guns for legitimate self defense. I however do not support assholes like GZ who want to play John Wayne and stalk and kill innocent kids. GZ should have been locked up for life IMO.

Everything he did goes against everything I believe and everything I was taught from the time I got my first gun.

[Scootaloo]

14. John Wayne never stalked and killed anyone

and as far as I can recall, his characters never did so to an innocent, much less a child.

I get the point you're making, but I think putting the Duke's name out there gives way too much elevation to Zimmerman.

[PD Turk]

18. Good point

I was just thinking of the kind of character GZ imagined he was in his distorted little mind.

[fadedrose]

15. GZ has a license to carry....

Apparentlly no background check if there was something to keep him from getting a gun, or a law requiring background checks.

Zimmerman was fine. It was that kid.....no law needed here...move on..

[quinnox]

20. Its obvious, Zimmy is the gungeoneers hero

He fulfills a fantasy many of them have, the vigilante/hero, strutting around carrying a big gun, ready to deal out justice to the bad guys. No wonder they back him to the hilt.

[fadedrose]

28. How far is the hilt?

Did/could they arrange charges that couldn't work that are still publically backed by the nitwit prosecutor......are they responsible for the discarded grand jury who might have looked into Zimmerman's background with a handful of subpoenas ...who can theybe?

All ended well. No outcry for new background laws needed here because of this simple case. Racism and that kid...blame them....NRA is taking a breath.

[Paladin]

21. Sick wish fulfillment.

Zimmerman got to use his pistol against an innocent but scary-looking black kid, and he got away with it. That qualifies as a Happy Story among the Our Guns Are More Important Than Your Lives crowd. Don't believe me? Check out the kind of incidents that are posted down in the Gun Control/RKBA group. Oh, hell, let me spare you all that: somebody gets shot to death in virtually every one of them, much to the delight of our Gun Enthusiasts.

[Wait Wut]

22. I'll bet you a million virtual bucks...

...you can't.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

29. +1

[Nye Bevan]

25. I am strongly in favor of gun control, and I do not "support" Zimmerman.

So I guess I fit with your theory.

[fadedrose]

30. You are not that crazy LaPierre

Lots of responsible people have guns and I hope not to offend any of you.

[LanternWaste]

27. Tin-gods cannot exist without their parishes.

Tin-gods cannot exist without their parishes.

[Lizzie Poppet]

35. You can't.

Derp.