Catholic food pantry says no to Planned Parenthood's 50 pound (immoral) food donation

[kpete]

There's nothing moral about turning away food for the hungry.
For any reason.

An area Catholic food pantry whose mission is to feed the hungry says no to Planned Parenthood.

As part of its Martin Luther King food drive, Planned Parenthood collected 50 pounds of food. It hoped to donate the food to Paul's Pantry.

“What was told to me was that they simply said we do not want any food donations from you period,” said Lisa Boyce, a spokesperson for Planned Parenthood of Wisconsin.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/principles-and-priorities-accepting.html

FOX 11 asked St. Norbert College religious professor Paul Wadell to provide context to the situation. He says since Paul's Pantry is a catholic organization, Planned Parenthood shouldn't have been surprised by its decision.

“In the Catholic Church there is such an emphasis on the dignity of life, the sacredness of life that it really is a cornerstone moral principle that there is a fear of wanting to do anything that might seem to compromise that principle or to weaken the church's stance on it,” said Wadell.
[...]

While Paul's Pantry won't comment on its choice, Waddle says catholic principles for life often come first.

“It becomes for many people I think a defining issue of catholic morality and to the point where it can overrule other moral considerations,” said Wadell.
http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/local/green_bay/pantry-turns-down-planned-parenthood

[libinnyandia]

1. Protecting women's health must be evil.

[socialindependocrat]

2. There should be a commandment regarding spite

I'm sure the people in the food kitchen applauded his decision!!

[BOHICA12]

3. It's about freedom and the exercise of freedom is moral. nt

[2ndAmForComputers]

4. Proof #9,827,976,233 so-called "pro-life" people are evil fucks.

All of them. No exceptions.

[indivisibleman]

5. bravo!

I only want to see as many babies born as possible. After that, they can starve to death for all I care.

[Newest Reality]

6. Life can't be so sacred

when you starve it to death.

How can one moral priority trump another, most vital one, and be moral? One can hold the fetus as sacred and also feed the hungry. I see no conflict in that.

The ethics of this behavior are not sound.

[BOHICA12]

10. Should an OWS Camp be forced to partake of food donated from BOA?

A better question might be, "Who went to the media to throw the other organization under the public opinion bus?"

Neither source said a lack of food was an immediate crisis - and Planned Parenthood showed poor awareness in their offer.

Ethics & Morality make up the narrow path whereas the wide highway is easy to travel.

[rfranklin]

20. You should take a closerr look at the Catholic church before you throw stones...

They have a very poor record of doing the moral thing.

[BOHICA12]

22. Their actions have little or nothing to do with the question of freedom ...

... and the freedom to follow a canon, and whether it is a moral decision to follow such canon.

What was inhospitable was the action of whoever went to the press.

[Mariana]

27. Their freedom hasn't been infringed in the least.

They haven't been made to accept the donation, have they? No. Publicizing the decision doesn't change that.

[Aerows]

31. You either follow the canon of

feed the hungry, or you don't. It's plain and simple.

Jesus wouldn't have turned food away that could benefit the poor just because it came from the pharasees, but the thing is, the pharasees never gave.

This was people giving.

Take it for what it is worth, BOHICA, but ask yourself WWJD. I don't think he would ever get so caught up in ideology that he let hungry people go hungry.

[BOHICA12]

34. No, this was one organization trying to shame another ....

but Jesus told us what he would do .... "Let both grow together until the harvest; and at harvest time I will tell the reapers, Gather the weeds first and bind them in bundles to be burned, but gather the wheat into my barn."

[JoePhilly]

40. Jesus also hung around with the homeless and prostitutes ...

And given that Planned Parenthood's prime mission is to provide a rather wide array of health services for women, most of whom are poor, he'd have appreciated the gift.

[BOHICA12]

43. He certainly did, but not while they turned tricks ...

or bullied funds (i.e. tax collectors). He did without condemnation but left them with specific instruction: "Go and sin no more!" He cured the sick, raised the dead, and drove the unrighteous from their tables. But he knew there were weeds & grain, sheep & goats and that small is the gate and narrow the path to Life.

[JoePhilly]

47. Planned Parenthood is "turning tricks"?

And "bullying funds"??

Let's try this ... abortion is about 3% of what Planned Parenthood provides. The REST of what they do are medical services for poor women.

How many Christians have a sin rate of 3%??

Do you? Or, are you a weed too?

[MattBaggins]

48. You speak as if he was a real person

and not a make believe character like in any other novel.

[BOHICA12]

54. You wouldn't understand ....

it's a Christian thing!

[southernyankeebelle]

7. Well may the PP can give to DHS so they can give to poor families in need.

[MinneapolisMatt]

8. That'll teach 'em! Let's screw the poor!

Assholes.

[madmom]

9. We had a lutheran church food pantry refuse food from our local

Occupy group because of their "bad reputation". I would love to see these religious zealots turn down a meal or anything from the repug party or their affiliates. You know it won't happen. Fucking hypocrites !

[dana_b]

13. amazing

Occupy is fighting for the have-nots yet they are being judged by the holier-than-thous.

[tsuki]

15. I wish I could vote a like on that post. nt

[russspeakeasy]

11. They should have shaped their donation like a little boy's butt.

[LiberalEsto]

12. On other words, worship fetuses

but let little born kids starve.

[tsuki]

14. The Catholic pigs feeding at the tax trough don't say no if

the tax dollars come from PP supporters or workers. More whiney, crying, fit-throwing two year olds.

[DirkGently]

16. "Sacredness of life" my ass. Scared right to control sex, more like. (nt)

[Journeyman]

17. Plenty of other pantries that would gladly accept the donation . . .

No sense getting tweaked over another's morality. Make your offerings where they're appreciated and move on. Why waste time bemoaning those who won't accept your aid when there are so many places in need of help who will accept well-intentioned gifts without question?

Way I figure it, there are plenty of people and organizations from which I would spurn any and all offers of assistance. Why shouldn't they exercise the same discrimination?

[LadyHawkAZ]

18. Apparently life is only sacred till it's hungry?

Yep, that makes sense.

[Maeve]

19. There is an old story of an evil man and a minister

The man was a lecher, a bully, a ruthless business man, one who was into shady activities of all sorts...but had never been caught out by the law. He was with some friends one time and they came upon the minister collecting for the poor, who looked with disapproval on the group. "Watch this," the reprobate said to his friends and pulled out a $100 bill. He waved it at the minister "Ah, Mister High-and-Mighty! I'm sure you wouldn't want the devil's own money." The minister snatched the bill and replied, "Thank you, sir. I'd say the devil has had it long enough."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
To feed the poor, I'd take money/goods from Old Scratch himself, but then I'm not worried how righteous I appear.

[cleanhippie]

21. How can any Catholic DUer continue to support the Catholic Church?

Much like the the simple-minded low-income conservatives that vote against their self-interests, Liberal Catholic that continue to fill the pews and coffers of their church are doing exactly the same thing.

[Neue Regel]

23. Easily

By seeing the Catholic Church for what it is, a large, diverse family of over a billion individuals rather than a monolithic, evil entity.

[etherealtruth]

24. +1

[joeglow3]

26. Don't ruin our ability to stereotype.

I agree and am disgusted at the judgementalism and stereotyping that is accepted so long as it is about the OTHER side.

[cleanhippie]

29. If you say so, but a large diverse family is not against b/c

And doesn't oppress women or hide child molesters. An evil entity does.

[Neue Regel]

44. Secular government entities do the same thing

What did Penn State University and the Los Angeles School District do with their child molesters, not to mention the rampant abuse at government-run mental hospitals and prisons? What government didn't allow women to vote until 100 years ago and sterilized minority women as recently as 45-50 years ago? How can anyone still support federal, state, and local governments, and by extension the US as a whole? They're nothing but a collection of evil entities.

[bladingat45degrees]

53. too easy

exactly

[_ed_]

39. They are hypocrites

They supposedly support progressive ideals, but are a member of a patriarchal organization that demeans women, demonizes gay people, and whose clergy just perpetuated a massive, worldwide child rape scandal. Just the fact that they promoted Mr Ratzinger (the former Hitler youth member) to pope after he led the coverup of the rape scandal should make anyone with a consicnece immediately quit the church.

Religion is a choice, and I judge people based on their associations. The Catholic Church is a hate group with respect to gays. Being gay is not a choice; continuing to be a Catholic is.

[cleanhippie]

42. +1

[Neue Regel]

45. I Love the Catholic Church and His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI

Viva la Roman Catholic Church!!!!

[onenote]

50. would you ever vote for a hypocrite?

For example, since you view members of the Kennedy family as hypocrites, could you ever vote for a Kennedy? How about John Kerry? Patrick Leahy? Nancy Pelosi? (Its a long list....)

[_ed_]

51. I've never had the opportunity to vote for any of those people

Membership in the Catholic church is a no-go for me. I have a gay brother and too many gay friends to view membership in the Catholic hate group as anything but a non-starter for me.

The Catholic church only has power as long as it has members. The Kennedys are just as culpable supporting the Catholics as any rank and file member.

[onenote]

52. That's a non-answer

I didn't ask if you had ever voted for a progressive Catholic Democrat (or had the opportunity to do so). I've asked whether you would. Is being a Catholic a complete deal breaker for you such that you could never bring yourself to vote for someone who identifies themselves as a Catholic, no matter what their position on gay rights or other issues?

[_ed_]

56. A non-answer to a silly hypothetical

Who is the opponent?

If a progressive Catholic runs against Charlie Manson, I think the Catholic would get my vote. A "progressive" Catholic would have to publicly denounce the church's hate to gain my respect.

[onenote]

57. Okay, here's a couple of non-silly hypotheticals

John Kerry v. George Bush. If you had been eligible to vote in 2004, would you have voted for Kerry even though he did not do what you say it would take to gain your respect?

Ted Kennedy v. Mitt Romney: If you lived in Mass. when these two squared off, would you have swallowed your lack of respect for Ted and voted for him?

In your estimation, can a Catholic politician be considered a "progressive" if they have not "publicly denounce[d] the church's hate?

[undeterred]

25. Well, aint that special.

Hunger doesn't have a religious denomination last time I checked.

[Dawson Leery]

28. The Catholic Church will allow poor people to starve then. "Pro-life" is nonsense to them.

The RCC as well as the SBC are pro-control of YOUR personal life.

[Zalatix]

30. I'm not sure if this passage pertains exactly to this situation, but here goes.

Let's start with the premise that the Church sees PP as evil. That said, food taken from Planned Parenthood is not evil. I believe this passage can logically be construed to explain why:

1 Timothy 4:1-5

1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

5For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

[tsuki]

32. You know, kpete, this post upset me terribly.

I called a teacher friend of mine who had mentioned that the teachers and lunch room people DONATE their time to put together donated snack packs for children to take home over the week-end.

I called him and asked him if he it would bother him if a slutty, pro-choice, Planned Parenthood supporter donated to his school's effort to feed children over the week-end.

Long story short, this week I will be sending food to the school. It is my money and my donation.

[nanabugg]

33. "dignity of life?" I don't want to hear that from a bunch of pedophile protectors. nt

[iwillalwayswonderwhy]

35. Well. what did they try to donate?

50 pounds of fetus jerky?

[justiceischeap]

36. Let's not forget that the RCC in DC threatened to terminate services for the poor

and homeless in DC, if marriage equality passed.

One can argue all they want that this is about religious beliefs but I'll argue it's about using services for the needy to blackmail people to do what they think is the right thing. I bet the majority of people that use Catholic Charities aren't even catholic, so they are telling people who are hungry that they can't eat because the RCC says so. If I was hungry, had a family to feed, I wouldn't care where the food came from, BoA or RCC, I'd take the food offered and feed my family.

When I was younger, I was struggling with my sexuality and guess where I saw a therapist? Catholic Charities. They offered a sliding scale and the therapist didn't try and make me see the evil of my ways, she actually counseled me on how to deal with the issues so I could be happy and live openly.

[BOHICA12]

37. A classic "Pernkopf Anatomy" case.

People with conscience will disagree, but either choice can be argued as moral. With that case, I stand on the side of freedom and liberty.

[MattBaggins]

49. melodrama much

the idiots in the RCC turning down a gesture of good will just to thumb their noses is not "FREEEEEEEEEDDDDDOMMMMMM".

[BOHICA12]

55. It wasn't a gesture of good will. Please!

It was an "in your face", were going to make you look bad maneuver. Otherwise there would be no Press Coverage. It was a set-up. Don't be taken in so easily.

[magical thyme]

38. obviously starvation is no impediment to the Catholic Church's

belief in the sacredness of life.

Glad it got publicity. I'm sure there are plenty of pantries that would be happy to relieve Planned Parenthood of it's food. Or they can just hand it out directly to the families that need it and are more interested in feeding their hungry children than the Catholic Church's attempt at morals.

[cleanhippie]

41. Catholics: Why do you continue to support this horrible organization?

Why do you fill the pews and the coffers, KNOWING that your support is being used to oppress and demonize other humans.

[LiberalFighter]

46. I think Paul's Pantry is an apt name for the place.

Considering that Paul was not concerned about those in need. More about his need.